joe212
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June 29th, 2014 at 7:03:14 AM permalink
Thank you in advance for answering my question. I was wondering with casinos non-affiliated with each other say the Fremont and the 4 Queens - if you get banned from one how likely is it that the other is going to find out?
FleaStiff
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June 29th, 2014 at 7:56:43 AM permalink
Quote: joe212

Thank you in advance for answering my question. I was wondering with casinos non-affiliated with each other say the Fremont and the 4 Queens - if you get banned from one how likely is it that the other is going to find out?

Whoa... there are different types of "communication" between casinos.

If one casino suddenly loses some chips or suddenly detects counterfeit chips... EVERY casino in town gets faxed in a pre-set sequence.
This tends to if not "freeze" it atleast "chills" any stolen or counterfeit chips. Other casinos know not to cash them or deal in major amounts of such chips.

Its the same thing with a team of con men or something... pull a con in one casino, say something involving an ATM or a mark with big losses who is not to bright... a fax goes out right away describing what they know about the team's composition and appearance.

Now if you are talking about a relatively minor incident such as a "purse snatch" it won't be faxed.

A "backoff or security escort off the premises" won't necessarily get faxed. Different casinos have different standards and no one is going to risk later litigation by being specific about such things. Just because they don't like your assumed card counting at one casino is not going to be grounds to broadcast your name and face all over town when other casinos have their own surveillance personnel and their own standards for what is allowable. South Point is ultra sensitive and is not going to give away its actions to everyone else for free.
joe212
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June 29th, 2014 at 8:51:32 AM permalink
Thanks for the detailed answer. I'll be more specific next time. I was talking about being banned for card counting.
charliepatrick
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June 29th, 2014 at 9:59:22 AM permalink
I suspect in the UK there are also different levels of communication.
(i) One-casino ban (they sometimes give people a short-term ban as a punishment, perhaps for a minor infringement to allow things to cool down);
(ii) Throughout the chain which might happen for card counting, cheating etc.
(iii) A national database for serious stuff which is shared across chains - I'm guessing within this there are degrees (e.g. warning, absolute).
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June 30th, 2014 at 7:48:03 AM permalink
Quote: charliepatrick

I suspect in the UK there are also different levels of communication.
(i) One-casino ban (they sometimes give people a short-term ban as a punishment, perhaps for a minor infringement to allow things to cool down);
(ii) Throughout the chain which might happen for card counting, cheating etc.
(iii) A national database for serious stuff which is shared across chains - I'm guessing within this there are degrees (e.g. warning, absolute).



Close, but for our chain we communicate all barrings. EG we ban a player for bad behaviour, then it is up to the rest of the chain if they want to follow suit.

There is a national database for cheats which goes cross chain, and there are also certain situations where we share info with competitors.

As for card counters, that is less of a worry for most of our casinos as we all run shuffling machines for the majority of our games. Never mind the fact that most of our inspectors/pit bosses wouldnt know a counter if it hit them in the face.
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Lemieux66
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June 30th, 2014 at 7:59:27 AM permalink
Quote: joe212

Thanks for the detailed answer. I'll be more specific next time. I was talking about being banned for card counting.



Oh, maybe in Vegas they don't talk. In AC, they talk.
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Dicenor33
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June 30th, 2014 at 8:18:52 AM permalink
It might be the best thing the casino can do to ban someone from playing. The money you saved can give a great retirement in one of South American countries.
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June 30th, 2014 at 8:27:42 AM permalink
Quote: Lemieux66

Oh, maybe in Vegas they don't talk. In AC, they talk.




hahahahaha, roads always lead back to mario. I bet the OP is someone from the B trying to get info on you.
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Lemieux66
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June 30th, 2014 at 9:03:53 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

hahahahaha, roads always lead back to mario. I bet the OP is someone from the B trying to get info on you.



They know I fall for the bait lol
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June 30th, 2014 at 9:24:34 AM permalink
Don't give them any identification. One little trap you want to avoid is if you get kicked out of the California Club don't just walk across the street into Binion's. The security that pitched you out of the California may call across to Binion's and report you. Take the scenic route to another casino so they can't do this.
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