Baccarat Payback on Bodog!?!?

Has anyone noticed, or does anyone know why, when betting both a tie and either the player or banker on Bodog's Baccarat that the payoff deducts the amount that you bet on the tie in their payoff? In other words, and maybe I've got it all wrong, but I've yet to see it on other sites and I am fairly new to the game, if you bet $25 on a tie and $200 on banker, and the banker wins, they only pay back $175. That is allocated as $165 and $10 commission. Another example would be you bet $10 on a tie and $100 on the player and the player wins, you are paid back only $90. It only seems to short you when you double bet with a tie and either banker/player. Is this some kind of rule I am not aware of or a glitch in the software, obviously in their favor, which makes a heck of a difference over many hands. If you don't double bet, their payoffs are accurately and fairly even money. ie Bet $100 on player, and player wins, payoff is $100. Anything less than a payoff of even money on any even money bet seems unfair. Does anyone have an answer that can shed some light on this. Bodog has free play with no downloads if anyone wants to check it out for themselves. Thanks!!

It's just phrased strangely.

If you bet $200 on banker and $25 on tie, your profit is $165.00 if banker wins. $200 - $10 commission - $25 for losing tie bet.

So it's not $165 - $10. I did a free play, and it's all in order.

I'm not sure if you were confused about the commission, but there is a 5% commission when you bet on the banker in Baccarat.

Thanks for your response, but you are incorrect in stating that $25 was correct in being deducted from your $200 banker bet for losing the tie. The tie is lost by not getting paid back your $25 tie bet. You simply lose the $25. It would not be deducted from your $200 bet. That is a separate bet altogether. You stated you bet $200 on banker and $25 on the tie. If the banker won, you lose the $25 bet, but you should still get paid $200 on your banker bet, minus the commission of course. The loss of the tie bet would not be deducted from the banker bet like you said happened to you. It appears to be confusing until you like at it a few times. If you bet $200 the banker and no money on the tie and won, you would receive $200, which is $190 and a $10 commission. Why if you lose the tie bet should you then only be paid $175 ($165 and $10 commission) for the same $200 bet. The $25 you put on the tie is simply not returned if you lose the tie bet. If you read this response, look at again you'll see what I'm saying. Then after you see what I'm saying, tell me if there is a valid reason they are doing this. This could add up to big money on their part that they are putting in their pockets. I mean huge money. Essentially 10% for every bet.

Quote: cyrusstratus

If you bet $200 the banker and no money on the tie and won, you would receive $200, which is $190 and a $10 commission. Why if you lose the tie bet should you then only be paid $175 ($165 and $10 commission) for the same $200 bet.

I don't think you understand commission. You would not receive 200 if you bet 200 on banker, you would receive 200 MINUS a 5% comm for betting the banker = $190. If you bet 200 on banker and 25 on tie, and the banker wins...you'd lose the 25 and win 190, so you would be up 165. I just played on Bodog too, and it's not taking anything "extra" for a tie, you just lose that much because it wasn't a tie. The upper left corner says "Commission = 10.00". That doesn't mean you get $10, it means you are paying an extra $10.

EDIT: I also think the confusion is that when you play Bodog, it shows the $10 commission next to the 190 payout, and both are put next to the winning bet, but then the 10 bucks is taken back into the bank.

Thanks for responding, but my area of concern has yet to be addressed. I do understand commissions and all that. Lets move it over to the players side and forget the banker, that way the commission confusion will be eliminated. Check out the following. If a person bets $100 on player and wins, the payout box will read:

Total Bet: $100
Result: $100
Commission: $ 0

If you bet $100 on the player and $10 on the tie, and win as the player, the payout box will read:

Total Bet: $110
Result: $ 90 (This is wrong if you bet $100 it should be $100)
Commission: $ 0

It should read:

Total Bet: $110
Result: $100
Commission: $ 0

It should read that because you win even money on your player bet. The tie bet amount should not be deducted from your player bet total, it should just be deducted from itself. In other words, eliminated. They are taking the amount you bet on the tie, and deducting it from your bet on the player box. That is totally wrong and I don't know what their basis is for doing this. Once a person understands this, then they will understand that they are being ripped off.

Please go to the site and do the above scenarios and you;ll see what I am saying. Thanks!!!

OK, I did a trial in free mode:

Bankroll: $1000
Bet: $10 Tie, $100 Banker

Banker wins

Bankroll after payouts: $1085

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Expected Bankroll if Banker wins: $1000 - $10 Tie loss + $100 Banker win - $5 Commission = $1085



It looks alright to me.

I think it is using the term result to refer to profit on that hand.

Total Bet =$110
The return is $200
Result = $90(+)

On losing hands it comes up mith a minus figure next to result.

Total Bet = $100
Loss of $100
Result = -$100

I guess i was in error, it was the way the payoff box was reading that was confusing to me. Thanks to all for your responses.