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December 2nd, 2023 at 7:28:58 AM permalink
This coming March at the Global Table Games & Game Protection Conference, Michael Schackleford will be awarded the 2024 Lifetime Achievement Award for Excellence and Services to the Table Games Industry.

Congrats and Mazel Tov Mike!

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December 2nd, 2023 at 7:57:31 AM permalink
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This coming March at the Global Table Games & Game Protection Conference, Michael Schackleford will be awarded the 2024 Lifetime Achievement Award for Excellence and Services to the Table Games Industry.

Congrats and Mazel Tov Mike!

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Congratulations! But just a reminder. Only old people get lifetime achievement awards!

Is there a formal presentation that accompanies this award? I値l bet a bunch of forum members would attend. (The AP痴 would come in disguise, of course..)
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December 2nd, 2023 at 9:21:08 AM permalink
That is awesome. The Wizard deserves many accolades.
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December 2nd, 2023 at 11:48:24 AM permalink
Very cool. Congratulations on the recognition for all your work.
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December 2nd, 2023 at 12:07:33 PM permalink
Congratulations, Mike! Well deserved.
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December 2nd, 2023 at 1:53:18 PM permalink
Super cool! Congratulations!
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December 2nd, 2023 at 2:09:26 PM permalink
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This coming March at the Global Table Games & Game Protection Conference, Michael Schackleford will be awarded the 2024 Lifetime Achievement Award for Excellence and Services to the Table Games Industry.

Congrats and Mazel Tov Mike!

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When I first saw this picture I thought it was a Native American behind the table. It's the hair and the facial expression and the sing around his neck. I actually did a double take. LOL
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December 3rd, 2023 at 6:41:27 AM permalink
March isn't a bad month to go to Vegas; I think I will try to make it out there to see Wizard accept this well-deserved award.
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December 4th, 2023 at 1:15:54 PM permalink
Congrats !!!
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Thanks everyone!

I cut my hair in May, so look normal again. This is a private conference, so unless you pay for the whole thing, it's not open to the public. However, I can probably sneak a couple people in, if any forum members are in town.
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December 4th, 2023 at 1:59:12 PM permalink
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Congratulations! But just a reminder. Only old people get lifetime achievement awards!



This got me curious so I googled some "young" lifetime achievement award winners.

Tom Hanks got an AFI Life Achievement Award at 46.

CEO Angel Rich-Jones won a Presidential Lifetime Achievement Award at 36.

Selena won a Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award at the age of 23, but it was posthumous and she had been dead for over 25 years. Technically counts as a win, though!
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December 4th, 2023 at 3:47:16 PM permalink
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Thanks everyone!

I cut my hair in May, so look normal again. This is a private conference, so unless you pay for the whole thing, it's not open to the public. However, I can probably sneak a couple people in, if any forum members are in town.
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I can attend as your personal physician.

I致e been involved in these for years at my Anesthesia yearly conference. The honoree usually has a bunch of family members present.

I can attend as your brother as well.
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December 4th, 2023 at 3:53:10 PM permalink
Deserved, however accepting an award bestowed by a lifelong grifting scumbag has to be a difficult choice one would think.
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December 4th, 2023 at 4:33:07 PM permalink
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Deserved, however accepting an award bestowed by a lifelong grifting scumbag has to be a difficult choice one would think.
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What are you talking about.
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I can attend as your personal physician. I can attend as your brother as well.



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December 4th, 2023 at 5:14:09 PM permalink
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Deserved, however accepting an award bestowed by a lifelong grifting scumbag has to be a difficult choice one would think.
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What are you talking about.
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Who, not what. The founder of the conference presenting the award.
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December 4th, 2023 at 6:39:23 PM permalink
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Deserved, however accepting an award bestowed by a lifelong grifting scumbag has to be a difficult choice one would think.
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What are you talking about.
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Richard Marcus is a well-known self-proclaimed #1 casino cheat in the world who is said to have invented the Savannah move. The move was quick easy and effective.

It's surprising you didn't know this his name is synonymous with roulette including but not limited to being the author of American Roulette.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT7VK483xXo&t=203s
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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December 4th, 2023 at 10:41:56 PM permalink
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Deserved, however accepting an award bestowed by a lifelong grifting scumbag has to be a difficult choice one would think.
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What are you talking about.
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Richard Marcus is a well-known self-proclaimed #1 casino cheat in the world who is said to have invented the Savannah move. The move was quick easy and effective.

It's surprising you didn't know this his name is synonymous with roulette including but not limited to being the author of American Roulette.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT7VK483xXo&t=203s
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I know who Richard Marcus is, I read his book at least twice. When I said what are you talking about I was referring to calling him a grifting scumbag. Richard Marcus is not a grifting scumbag. The only reason he got away with his moves was there was no cameras in those days. Today he would last for about 5 minutes.
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December 4th, 2023 at 11:50:46 PM permalink
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Deserved, however accepting an award bestowed by a lifelong grifting scumbag has to be a difficult choice one would think.
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What are you talking about.
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Richard Marcus is a well-known self-proclaimed #1 casino cheat in the world who is said to have invented the Savannah move. The move was quick easy and effective.

It's surprising you didn't know this his name is synonymous with roulette including but not limited to being the author of American Roulette.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT7VK483xXo&t=203s
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I know who Richard Marcus is, I read his book at least twice. When I said what are you talking about I was referring to calling him a grifting scumbag. Richard Marcus is not a grifting scumbag. The only reason he got away with his moves was there was no cameras in those days. Today he would last for about 5 minutes.
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I wouldn稚 agree that he痴 a grifter, but I could understand someone calling him a scumbag.

I did an article on him several years ago, but it appears something happened to the page as the better part of the article is missing. I値l have to check my Google Docs to see if I still have it, but I seriously doubt if I do.

Anyway, he got his start as a dealer at the El Cortez, wherein he was approached by some nefarious types about false shuffling (while on duty) to the benefit of confederates. Essentially, he engaged in a premeditated plan to steal money from his employer.

After that, he would develop methods for cheating at games such as Craps and Roulette, perhaps the most well-known of which is his, 鉄avannah Move.

Marcus would justify these things by as much as saying that the casino industry is evil and predatory. Of course, those words ring a bit hollow, given that he had no problem accepting the industry痴 money in exchange for teaching it how to prevent other people from bilking it exactly as he did, or similar.

In short, this is hypocrisy of absolutely the highest order. Therefore, I think, 全cumbag, is defensible.

Me? I知 not going to shed any tears for the casinos he stole from, but at the same time, I see a legitimate difference between an actual advantage player (beating the games/promotions without blatantly cheating) and Richard Marcus, who committed outright theft, including against his own employer.

Of course, the schedule is the schedule. If Wizard is being presented a well-deserved award, why should he object to the person giving it to him? I can稚 imagine he has a ton of say in the matter anyway.

In any event, I think it痴 fair to say that Richard Marcus used to be a thief (by his own admission) and could fairly be argued to have behaved hypocritically (working for casinos to prevent the very actions he tried to justify), but I知 unsure that grifter is ever an apt description. Maybe there痴 something I missed.

鉄cumbag, that痴 an optional word. Either way, I don稚 know that he痴 a scumbag now. I certainly don稚 have any interest in spending any great amount of time with him to find out.

Of course, also being capable of hypocrisy, I probably wouldn稚 refuse if he wanted me to interview him.
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December 5th, 2023 at 11:56:18 AM permalink
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Deserved, however accepting an award bestowed by a lifelong grifting scumbag has to be a difficult choice one would think.
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What are you talking about.
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Richard Marcus is a well-known self-proclaimed #1 casino cheat in the world who is said to have invented the Savannah move. The move was quick easy and effective.

It's surprising you didn't know this his name is synonymous with roulette including but not limited to being the author of American Roulette.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT7VK483xXo&t=203s
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I know who Richard Marcus is, I read his book at least twice. When I said what are you talking about I was referring to calling him a grifting scumbag. Richard Marcus is not a grifting scumbag. The only reason he got away with his moves was there was no cameras in those days. Today he would last for about 5 minutes.
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Then mcallister3200's post should have been very obvious.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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December 5th, 2023 at 12:19:09 PM permalink
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Deserved, however accepting an award bestowed by a lifelong grifting scumbag has to be a difficult choice one would think.
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What are you talking about.
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Richard Marcus is a well-known self-proclaimed #1 casino cheat in the world who is said to have invented the Savannah move. The move was quick easy and effective.

It's surprising you didn't know this his name is synonymous with roulette including but not limited to being the author of American Roulette.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT7VK483xXo&t=203s
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I know who Richard Marcus is, I read his book at least twice. When I said what are you talking about I was referring to calling him a grifting scumbag. Richard Marcus is not a grifting scumbag. The only reason he got away with his moves was there was no cameras in those days. Today he would last for about 5 minutes.
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Then mcallister3200's post should have been very obvious.
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I guess EB only thinks someone is a grifting scumbag if they get caught.
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December 5th, 2023 at 12:28:31 PM permalink
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I guess EB only thinks someone is a grifting scumbag if they get caught.
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Not to tip what I believe to be his...eh...'tactics' isn't exactly the right word...but it's a close word.

Anyway, EB has been here for a long-time. I wouldn't call it an MO, but I have seen EB occasionally take positions that I don't think he actually believes, or that are very difficult to defend, just for the purpose of engagement. That's just my observation and could be inaccurate. On the other hand, has he ever specifically referred to AP's, or (unlike AP's) other people specifically stealing/trying to steal (from casinos) as scumbags? If not, then perhaps...while he wouldn't commit crimes himself...EB thinks anything is kosher as far as casinos are concerned.

I do think it's an odd take that Marcus getting away with it (due to poor surveillance), by implication of being in the same post, is in any way relevant to whether or not Marcus is, or was, a scumbag.
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Deserved, however accepting an award bestowed by a lifelong grifting scumbag has to be a difficult choice one would think.
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What are you talking about.
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Richard Marcus is a well-known self-proclaimed #1 casino cheat in the world who is said to have invented the Savannah move. The move was quick easy and effective.

It's surprising you didn't know this his name is synonymous with roulette including but not limited to being the author of American Roulette.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT7VK483xXo&t=203s
link to original post



I know who Richard Marcus is, I read his book at least twice. When I said what are you talking about I was referring to calling him a grifting scumbag. Richard Marcus is not a grifting scumbag. The only reason he got away with his moves was there was no cameras in those days. Today he would last for about 5 minutes.
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Then mcallister3200's post should have been very obvious.
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I guess EB only thinks someone is a grifting scumbag if they get caught.
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To be clear, I'm not agreeing with or in disagreement with calling the guy a grifting scumbag, I was just pointing out that it was obvious as to what and why mcallister was saying.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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December 5th, 2023 at 12:42:54 PM permalink
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I guess EB only thinks someone is a grifting scumbag if they get caught.
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Not to tip what I believe to be his...eh...'tactics' isn't exactly the right word...but it's a close word.

Anyway, EB has been here for a long-time. I wouldn't call it an MO, but I have seen EB occasionally take positions that I don't think he actually believes, or that are very difficult to defend, just for the purpose of engagement. That's just my observation and could be inaccurate. On the other hand, has he ever specifically referred to AP's, or (unlike AP's) other people specifically stealing/trying to steal (from casinos) as scumbags? If not, then perhaps...while he wouldn't commit crimes himself...EB thinks anything is kosher as far as casinos are concerned.

I do think it's an odd take that Marcus getting away with it (due to poor surveillance), by implication of being in the same post, is in any way relevant to whether or not Marcus is, or was, a scumbag.
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EB tried shaming me for using liberal return policies at big box stores. Meanwhile, he admitted to wanting to engage in a similar type of scheme.

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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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December 5th, 2023 at 12:44:41 PM permalink
Go to the misc. thread for Richard Marcus talk so we don't hijack this thread any further.
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December 5th, 2023 at 3:18:40 PM permalink
Just to show that I do indeed know very well who Richard Marcus is here's a copy of his book from my shelf and I put a note in front of it to show that it's mine. I've read it at least twice and now that I'm thinking about it I might read it again. I like the casino game involved..

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Just to show that I do indeed know very well who Richard Marcus is here's a copy of his book from my shelf and I put a note in front of it to show that it's mine. I've read it at least twice and now that I'm thinking about it I might read it again. I like the casino game involved..


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I'm not interested in learning how to cheat casinos.


Why and how has that book helped you?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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December 5th, 2023 at 8:47:01 PM permalink
awesome news! huge congrats to Mike on snagging the Lifetime Achievement Award at the Global Table Games & Game Protection Conference. Mazel Tov, indeed! Well-deserved recognition for his excellence and contributions to the Table Games Industry.
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December 5th, 2023 at 10:40:57 PM permalink
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Just to show that I do indeed know very well who Richard Marcus is here's a copy of his book from my shelf and I put a note in front of it to show that it's mine. I've read it at least twice and now that I'm thinking about it I might read it again. I like the casino game involved..


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I'm not interested in learning how to cheat casinos.


Why and how has that book helped you?
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Very entertaining, the guy's a good writer.
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