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coachbelly
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April 5th, 2021 at 3:06:05 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I highly doubt this is going to happen anyways



Neither do I...I think Expectedvalue will withdraw the challenge.

How long did MDawg get suspended for doing that?
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April 5th, 2021 at 3:06:14 PM permalink
Quote: coachbelly

He doesn't need to marty to meet the current criteria.


So what?
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But a minimum bet needs to be part of the criteria, and it's not.

Says who?
Is it you that made the offer? Are you worried that ExpectedValue made a bad or risky or pointless offer?

meanwhile....
Take care out there. Spare a thought for the newly poor who were happy in their world just a few days ago, but whose whole way of life just collapsed..
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April 5th, 2021 at 3:11:38 PM permalink
Quote: coachbelly

He doesn't need to marty to meet the current criteria.

But a minimum bet needs to be part of the criteria, and it's not.

I'm not sure why a minimum bet is needed to be established? If someone is betting $100 one hand but on the next hand they bet 20k I would have to give them credit for an average bet. That proves to me they have the funds and stupidity of making large bets in to - EV games.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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April 5th, 2021 at 3:14:53 PM permalink
I will not withdraw the challenge. I stated it must be a minimum of one shoe . With 75 percent of the hands of that shoe played. Mdawg claims to play by himself. Mostly mentioning 1k hand averages. If you assume 75 hands for the shoe then that is roughly 57 hands played. Or however long mdawg wishes to play he can as long as itís a minimum of one shoe. Stipulation is that the session must be written up and posted win or lose, along with agreement from mdawg that he doesnít go back later that day and post another report saying he went back and avenged his loses.
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April 5th, 2021 at 3:15:46 PM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

So what?
Says who?
Is it you that made the offer? Are you worried that ExpectedValue made a bad or risky or pointless offer?

meanwhile....

I do not like it if it gives MD a positive expectation. That openens up a situation where someone might be willing to loan him the money to bet.... thus proving nothing to me.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
coachbelly
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April 5th, 2021 at 3:15:48 PM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Are you worried that ExpectedValue made a bad or risky or pointless offer?



No I'm not worried, but yes the offer is pointless without a minimum bet.

That is to say, it's pointless to accept the challenge without knowing the minimum bet,
otherwise the participants may not be able to come to agreement on the minimum bet.
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April 5th, 2021 at 3:19:12 PM permalink
Quote: Expectedvalue

I will not withdraw the challenge.



His reports say that he his minimum bet has been the table minimum.

So what's the minimum bet for this challenge? Table minimum?
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April 5th, 2021 at 3:22:10 PM permalink
Quote: coachbelly

No I'm not worried, but yes the offer is pointless without a minimum bet.

That is to say, it's pointless to accept the challenge without knowing the minimum bet,
otherwise the participants may not be able to come to agreement on the minimum bet.

Explain why a minimum bet should matter to anyone? Makes no sense especially if you are trend betting or what ever you want to call it...

If a guy wants to bet $5 until he sees a trend or whatever and then he makes huge bets why isn't that appropriate? Obviously, that's not good for the person making the offer as it can easily give someone an advantage.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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April 5th, 2021 at 3:22:53 PM permalink
Iím open to discussion with mdawg about the average bet provided it is in the high limit room and within reason. If someone is willing to lend mdawg money to win 2k with the time involved and the variance then I guess Iíll take that risk. He would still need to pull markers and have the wizard see his play. A 500 average bet for an hour will not get you the suites he says he is getting. Thatís common knowledge .
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April 5th, 2021 at 3:24:28 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: OnceDear

So what?
Says who?
Is it you that made the offer? Are you worried that ExpectedValue made a bad or risky or pointless offer?

meanwhile....

I do not like it if it gives MD a positive expectation. That openens up a situation where someone might be willing to loan him the money to bet.... thus proving nothing to me.

Oh, it was never going to prove anything. A total freeroll, Thx EV.
Take care out there. Spare a thought for the newly poor who were happy in their world just a few days ago, but whose whole way of life just collapsed..

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