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Viper21
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August 24th, 2020 at 9:41:23 PM permalink
Quote: joedol

When playing table games, will I be rated the same playing by myself as I would playing with a full table?



Your rating is based on average bet and time played. The amount of players at the table does not directly affect your rating. It does indirectly affect your rating and is discussed very well in the book Comp City.
DRich
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August 25th, 2020 at 12:10:48 PM permalink
Quote: Viper21

Your rating is based on average bet and time played. The amount of players at the table does not directly affect your rating. It does indirectly affect your rating and is discussed very well in the book Comp City.



The table tracking systems that I have worked on definitely had a component for "Speed of game". the faster the game the quicker comps would be earned.
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Viper21
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August 25th, 2020 at 8:18:23 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

The table tracking systems that I have worked on definitely had a component for "Speed of game". the faster the game the quicker comps would be earned.



So you're saying Max's system for playing the slowest possible has become outdated at some casinos because they are able to take into account the hands per hour?
DRich
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August 26th, 2020 at 8:45:47 AM permalink
Quote: Viper21

So you're saying Max's system for playing the slowest possible has become outdated at some casinos because they are able to take into account the hands per hour?



Yes, if they are dilligent about tracking it. My experience is most pit bosses just enter the speed of the game when they create the player tracking entry. I don't know if they update it or not over time.

A typical entry would be game, speed, and average bet. (eg, Blackjack, average speed, $50 average bet).
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joedol
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August 26th, 2020 at 9:08:44 AM permalink
Looks like we have different opinions here. Lets see what the Wizard says tomorrow.
Viper21
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August 26th, 2020 at 10:25:05 AM permalink
Quote: joedol

Looks like we have different opinions here. Lets see what the Wizard says tomorrow.



No different opinion. I believe DRich knows what he's talking about and I am happy he educated me on the matter. Seems like if the casino is entering average speed then jumping into a heads up game during primetime knowing your table will become crowded soon would be ideal to maximize that variable of the rating.
joedol
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August 27th, 2020 at 10:22:19 AM permalink
My next question would be, why wouldn't the software track the speed of the game. Once the player info is entered everything should be automatic. If a player leaves or is added the software should be able to compensate for that and adjust the comps/rating accordingly.
DRich
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August 27th, 2020 at 11:45:52 AM permalink
Quote: joedol

My next question would be, why wouldn't the software track the speed of the game. Once the player info is entered everything should be automatic. If a player leaves or is added the software should be able to compensate for that and adjust the comps/rating accordingly.



The software is not connected in any way to the table. The software requires the pit staff to do all of the data entry. People are inherently lazy and do as little as possible so the comp rating is only as good as the staff entering it.

In theory it could be hooked up to the camera system but as far as I know no one is doing that.
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joedol
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August 27th, 2020 at 12:16:18 PM permalink
I know it's not physically connected but doesn't it track a player by what table they're on? If there are two players on a table and another one comes, the pit ads the player and now the software knows there are three players and can adjust accordingly. The same if one leaves. Doesn't seem like it would be to hard these days.
DRich
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August 27th, 2020 at 12:18:33 PM permalink
Quote: joedol

I know it's not physically connected but doesn't it track a player by what table they're on? If there are two players on a table and another one comes, the pit ads the player and now the software knows there are three players and can adjust accordingly. The same if one leaves. Doesn't seem like it would be to hard these days.



You are correct assuming all of the players are playing rated.
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