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November 23rd, 2021 at 7:50:07 AM permalink
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When I had my two machines in NY, it was almost impossible to own your own machines. While there were a few machines for sale, they tended to be older and the companies that controlled the machines also controlled the spare parts and techs needed to keep the machines going. Leasing your machines gave you access to both of those things, and I believe they also provided some support in the event someone was arrested for possessing the machines. That was their promise, anyway. I never had a problem, but we were very discreet. The games were not where the public would see them and they were by invitation only.
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Thank you for sharing the experience! You mentioned one thing that I probably should have touched on which was the cost of repairs---which are also a factor in whether or not to own the machines outright. I don't know how everything included would break down, but my thoughts on the best setups from a pure revenue (for the operator) standpoint would be:

1.) Unregulated Skill Machines Owned Outright.

2.) Limited VLT.

3.) Unregulated Skill Machines Through a Distributor.

And, that's percentage of revenue rather than actual gross revenues. In terms of Gross Revenues, there's a reason that you don't tend to see very many (if any) Skill Games in states where Limited VLT is available. Limited VLT is pretty much best for everyone, except for those individuals where convenience gambling turns into a personal financial problem for them...I guess it's not best for the Commercial Casinos already existing in those states, either, but I certainly haven't seen any of those close in states to add VLT.
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November 23rd, 2021 at 8:11:05 AM permalink
It's not just the cost of the repairs, it's the loss of revenue during the downtime. We leased our jukebox, cigarette machines, pool tables, video games and Broadway machines from the same people. If anything but the jukebox and Broadway machines broke, we'd get a tech out the next day or two. If the Juke or Broadway broke, they'd have a guy there as fast as possible, almost always the same day.
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November 23rd, 2021 at 9:27:25 AM permalink
Concerning your new series on NFL schedules, to be fair to the league, I hope you'll include an article from a show business point of view. Pro sports is, after all, part of the entertainment industry. It's all about getting butts in the seats and, most importantly, TV ratings. Everything else is a distant second. (This is why there's silly rules designed to protect expensive star quarterbacks or to keep the clock running when it shouldn't to speed up the game, or to (God help us) allow for the "TV time out".

A schedule that's completely fair at a high school or collegiate level might be disastrous at the pro level in terms of, say, marquee matchups. The trick is to make things as fair as possible without sacrificing ratings.

So the divisions, once used to ease travel time on road trips, are still useful as they provide the league with eight 1st place teams to hype every week. They also give every geographical region a team to root for during the post season or, at the very least, a hated rival to root against.

I guess my point is a pro league is way better off with some silly rules, a somewhat unfair schedule, and lots of money than they are with complete fairness in all things while fighting the dodgeball league for airtime on ESPN 8 the Ocho.
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November 23rd, 2021 at 9:31:41 AM permalink
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Concerning your new series on NFL schedules, to be fair to the league, I hope you'll include an article from a show business point of view. Pro sports is, afterall, part of the entertainment industry. It's all about getting butts in the seats and, most importantly, TV ratings. Everything else is a distant second. (This is why there's silly rules designed to protect expensive star quarterbacks or to keep the clock running when it shouldn't to speed up the game, or to (God help us) allow for the "TV time out".

A schedule that's completely fair at a high school or collegiate level might be disastrous at the pro level in terms of, say, marquee matchups. The trick is to make things as fair as possible without sacrificing ratings.

So the divisions, once used to ease travel time on road trips, are still useful as they provide the league with eight 1st place teams to hype every week. They also give every geographical region a team to root for during the post season or, at the very least, a hated rival to root against.

I guess my point is a pro league is way better off with some silly rules, a somewhat unfair schedule, and lots of money than they are with complete fairness in all things while fighting the dodgeball league for airtime on ESPN 8 the Ocho.
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Gialmere,

That's an excellent idea! After I have concluded looking at all of the different seasons and making my suggestions for the best way to do it that would maximize competitive value and the concept of getting the best teams in there, I'll write an article called, "Why the NFL Doesn't (And Shouldn't) Care About Maximizing Competition."

If you want, since you seem to make great arguments in that regard, I can even forward you the article when the time comes and you can let me know if I have missed any points.
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Heh. I'm not sure if that's sarcasm. If it is, apologies for the post. If it isn't then yeah, sure, sounds fun.

A detailed analysis like you're doing, however, would probably be tedious. What, for example, would be the best match-ups in a given week based only on how they will maximize the TV ratings across the league? A game featuring two 1st place teams would be must see. But, would it be better ratings wise to instead pit one them against a 2nd place team on winning streak, and the other against a 3rd place team with a household name quarterback that has a shot at the playoffs?

How is a team perceived by the fans? Did it do well last season? How is it doing this season? Does a team have any glamor power? When the NFL expanded and created eight divisions, some AFC teams grumbled that they might only host the Cowboys once every eight years, and America's Team is guaranteed to sellout your stadium.
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November 23rd, 2021 at 5:27:24 PM permalink
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Heh. I'm not sure if that's sarcasm. If it is, apologies for the post. If it isn't then yeah, sure, sounds fun.

A detailed analysis like you're doing, however, would probably be tedious. What, for example, would be the best match-ups in a given week based only on how they will maximize the TV ratings across the league? A game featuring two 1st place teams would be must see. But, would it be better ratings wise to instead pit one them against a 2nd place team on winning streak, and the other against a 3rd place team with a household name quarterback that has a shot at the playoffs?

How is a team perceived by the fans? Did it do well last season? How is it doing this season? Does a team have any glamor power? When the NFL expanded and created eight divisions, some AFC teams grumbled that they might only host the Cowboys once every eight years, and America's Team is guaranteed to sellout your stadium.
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If my intent was to be sarcastic, I'd leave no room for doubt! I figured I would tack it on as a paragraph or two, but your idea to make an actual article out of it (and maybe try to research to come up with more reasons) is a really great idea. With that, I would definitely very much appreciate if you were to look it over in advance of it being published.

They probably do have to put TV ratings above all else, given the TV revenue split that the league does.
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