TheBigPaybak
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September 24th, 2014 at 5:29:35 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Let me also say that I'll accept as an option that anybody may insist that I keep the money. For example, sometimes fans will buy me dinner or drinks as a show of thanks for my sites. Such offers I have happily accepted in the past. Neither will I insist that a donation be forwarded to charity if somebody wishes to consider their donation as a pure gift for the value received from my sites, regardless of my net worth.

Still, any donations where I don't get any direction what to do will be donated to charity.



Glad I saw this as I would prefer you to have the money and it not be donated to charity!
Lack of prior planning on your part doesn't constitute an emergency on my part.
beachbumbabs
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September 24th, 2014 at 5:32:55 AM permalink
Quote: Mosca

I didn't ask for it, Mike offered it. I never, ever gave a thought to the donation until then. in fact, I had forgotten about it.

To avoid any appearance of being ungrateful, I now insist Mike keep it. Do whatever the fuck you want with it, I don't give a fuck.

Jesus fucking christ.



Mosca,

My agreement with DJTB was not, whatsoever, directed at you. You did not, as you say, ask for it back, but it's very reasonable to accept the Wiz's offer to return it, IMO. I apologize for causing you to think I was criticizing your particular decision.

My first comments on the donations stand, which were that it didn't need further discussion publicly, that a PM to Mike would suffice, and no further judgment on anyone's decision either way.

Sadly, that's not what happened.
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DJTeddyBear
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September 24th, 2014 at 6:29:04 AM permalink
I too wasn't picking on anybody specifically, but the whole "give it back" attitude.

It makes me nuts when people win at the casino, and then say they're "playing with house money."

It's the same thing with this issue. Once we sent the money in, it's Mike's money, to do with as he wishes.
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beachbumbabs
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September 24th, 2014 at 6:31:04 AM permalink
Quote: Boz

Quote: Wizard

I've taken quite a beating for asking for donations and then turning around and selling the sites. There is some validity to the criticism. I will say in my defense that the decision to sell the sites wasn't made until early September and I immediately stopped accepting donations as soon as I knew this was a distinct possibility.

Nevertheless, I have decided to either return or give away to charity ALL donations made at any point.




Quote: Beethoven9th

I can't believe the number of people who DON'T want the Wizard to keep their donations. That just seems kinda tacky, IMHO. Hell, one member has even come up with ways to donate the Wizard's own money. Geez.


I resent that I am being made to feel ungrateful for donating $100 to a complete stranger just because he asked for it, and that I then accepted his unsolicited offer to return it. No good deed goes unpunished, I suppose. Fuck you.


If this is what MOSCA is suspended for, suspend me for the 14 days I am due. He is responding to someone (BT9) who should have been gone a long time ago. I am assuming this was from BBB, Misson, Face or one of the mods I respect. BT9 is a total asshole and adds nothing to the site. And deep down you know it.

And if I am wrong on why he was suspended, nevermind..carry on


And Babs..Yes I called it, but it doesn't always make it right


And MOSCA is one of the best members on here. Just look at his contributions.



Boz,

FWIW, I have had nothing to do with suspensions in this thread to date; that is about to end. However, I would have been forced to take the same actions in order to objectively moderate this board, despite there being 3 good members involved in them.

Quote: Beethoven9th



I can't believe the number of people who DON'T want the Wizard to keep their donations. That just seems kinda tacky, IMHO. Hell, one member has even come up with ways to donate the Wizard's own money. Geez.



This post is a complete troll. It is absolutely NONE of Beethoven's business what happens between the Wizard and ANY other member in reference to money freely given and freely returned. It only serves to insult those good members on this board who accepted the offer the Wizard made to return their funds, with thanks. As such, and given his past banning for trolling, I am banning Beethoven9th, nuclear option.

I have put up with months of insults and snide remarks from him and his friends on this board, and in PM after issuing his first trolling ban, including his signature at DT and other places, while watching him continue to troll people on DT, where I am not a moderator. His posts are often toxic, insidious, and provocative, many written merely to enrage or condescend to other members. He has chosen to return to active posting status here the last couple weeks, and continue his campaign of strewing confusion and discontent, if not hate, in this forum as well. Enough. Let him take responsibility for his posts, as others have had to do in responding to him.

So this is where the rubber meets the road, for me anyway, about where this forum is headed in the future. If Mike and the other moderators support this decision, I will remain as a moderator on this site, serving at the pleasure of Mike and Zuga. If they do not, then I will exit, with thanks to Mike and many other members and moderators.

No drama intended. Just the facts, ma'am. I will be offline the rest of the day and check in very late tonight.
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September 24th, 2014 at 6:34:13 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

This post is a complete troll. It is absolutely NONE of Beethoven's business what happens between the Wizard and ANY other member in reference to money freely given and freely returned. It only serves to insult those good members on this board who accepted the offer the Wizard made to return their funds, with thanks. As such, and given his past banning for trolling, I am banning Beethoven9th, nuclear option.

I have put up with months of insults and snide remarks from him and his friends on this board, and in PM after issuing his first trolling ban, including his signature at DT and other places, while watching him continue to troll people on DT, where I am not a moderator. His posts are often toxic, insidious, and provocative, many written merely to enrage or condescend to other members. He has chosen to return to active posting status here the last couple weeks, and continue his campaign of strewing confusion and discontent, if not hate, in this forum as well. Enough. Let him take responsibility for his posts, as others have had to do in responding to him.

So this is where the rubber meets the road, for me anyway, about where this forum is headed in the future. If Mike and the other moderators support this decision, I will remain as a moderator on this site, serving at the pleasure of Mike and Zuga. If they do not, then I will exit, with thanks to Mike and many other members and moderators.

No drama intended. Just the facts, ma'am. I will be offline the rest of the day and check in very late tonight.



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texasplumr
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September 24th, 2014 at 6:42:08 AM permalink
BBB said:


This post is a complete troll. It is absolutely NONE of Beethoven's business what happens between the Wizard and ANY other member in reference to money freely given and freely returned. It only serves to insult those good members on this board who accepted the offer the Wizard made to return their funds, with thanks. As such, and given his past banning for trolling, I am banning Beethoven9th, nuclear option.
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I couldn't agree more! Good on ya BBB!
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DMSCR
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September 24th, 2014 at 6:44:10 AM permalink
And now B9 can go rant with LarryS and the Johno!
DeMango
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September 24th, 2014 at 7:23:32 AM permalink
Great Job Babs!
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AxelWolf
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September 24th, 2014 at 7:55:02 AM permalink
I won a bet of some kind (probably a nugget challenge) with someone(cant remember) and it was supposed to be donated. I prefer you to use it to buy someones soul.

I would suggest Bob's however you would be over paying.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
mds
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September 24th, 2014 at 8:00:49 AM permalink
I almost feel a little guilty or feel a little like an Indian giver. Not. I gave my hard earned 100.00 to Mike. He needed it to have this site survive. It was my pleasure. Mike offered the donation back I think due to the sale being only a month or two after asking for help. That's cool and I will take it. I personally will donate it to the Children's Hospital in Los Angeles.

Mike, You have built this site from nothing. A lot of hard work and sweat over many years. It is your child if you will. Mike, if you raised 100k to 200k would you have sold your pride and joy? Also wanted to add this. It is us the people here who have made this site successful. We, well not me so much are the people giving our input on a daily basis to help others all around the world. It would be nice to hear a much appreciated than you from the old owner and new owners. No one is entitled to anything. If they both have sent their sincere thank you to us all in pervious post im glad and sorry I didn't read it earlier.

You, the members of this forum have helped me immensely. I thank you from the bottom of my heart. Yes this site has helped me as well with all the information. I know there will be big changes. Some we will like some we will hate. But it is what it is. Kind of like the sale of a momma and papa shop being bought up by a huge conglomerate. The political BS, structure, uniformity, rules, site changes and such. I wish Zuga and his company the best. It was a great business decision for them. Mike too! I think.

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