Mission146
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October 3rd, 2014 at 12:54:14 PM permalink
Quote: Sonuvabish

Buzz tho, has allows been allowed to troll, so since he wasn't doing anything out of the ordinary, he may have honestly thought he was not doing anything wrong.



If repeatedly alluding to the fact that he'd inevitably be Suspended is indicative of thinking he wasn't doing anything that would get him Suspended, then I agree with you.
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October 3rd, 2014 at 6:57:51 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

If repeatedly alluding to the fact that he'd inevitably be Suspended is indicative of thinking he wasn't doing anything that would get him Suspended, then I agree with you.



LOL...I think we agree to agree. I think he thought he had diplomatic immunity.
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October 4th, 2014 at 10:51:50 AM permalink
Quote: Sonuvabish

LOL...I think we agree to agree. I think he thought he had diplomatic immunity.



I think you're wrong about what Buzz thought. It appears to me, in reading his many posts, that Buzz was upset about the sale, went looking for a fight, and found one. He'll be unbanned in 3 days and can discuss it further if he wants to.
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October 4th, 2014 at 2:06:17 PM permalink
For the record, he was very much a gentleman at the G2E dinner.
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October 4th, 2014 at 3:50:18 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

For the record, he was very much a gentleman at the G2E dinner.


You mean Wiz or Buzz?
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October 4th, 2014 at 4:18:10 PM permalink
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You mean Wiz or Buzz?



LOL
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October 4th, 2014 at 9:22:52 PM permalink
Quote: pokerface

You mean Wiz or Buzz?


Now that you mention it, the Wiz WAS terrorizing the hostesses with trivia queations. But that's ok. They enjoyed it.
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October 5th, 2014 at 6:09:11 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

I think you're wrong about what Buzz thought. It appears to me, in reading his many posts, that Buzz was upset about the sale, went looking for a fight, and found one. He'll be unbanned in 3 days and can discuss it further if he wants to.



It sounds like you are describing Buzz's suspension as voluntary, like suicide by cop. Buzzard--malum prohibitum. kevintracy (or his creator)--malum in se. I've seen Buzz act the same way before, which leads me to believe he didn't think a banning would be justifiable...in fact, I think he may have thought doing so would be hypocritical, which was a running theme.

I went thru his posts. He complains a bit about the sale, with a sense of foreboding of the future. At some point, Zuga aggressively responds to him, and states he is in all his posts. Although Buzz appears to be be questioning Zuga's motives excessively, that statement isn't true--Buzz is either merely reporting factual information, or making up harmless fantasy for humor in the posts that do include Zuga. Buzz respectfully disagrees with everything he Zuga says, occasionally throwing in a joke that may be a barb--but they are incomprehensible as far as I can tell, so should be ignored. Buzz promises to quit posting on the topic, but Zuga aggressively responds to that post and every other, which is an obvious equal cause to further discord. Buzz ambiguously says Mike earned his respect; Zuga takes it out of context by assigning definitive negative meaning to it, and says Buzz admitted he had no respect for Zuga. Prior to the argument which led to suspension, Buzz jokingly suggested if trolling is not clearly defined, that he, and even Bob Evans (EvenBob), could face lifetime suspensions as of immediately--to which Mission cited as an admission of guilt. 14 days seems excessive, since all evidence of guilt supports an alternative theory. I don't really care. My point is...it is POSSIBLE Buzz didn't think he was going to get banned, at least not justifiably. Buzz clearly was not a good ambassador to a new member; I'm not protesting.
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October 5th, 2014 at 7:37:43 AM permalink
To get back on topic, I wrote a $2,000 check to Three Square the other day. This after accounting for the facts that many people specifically said I could keep the donation, many were returned to donors, and some asked me to donate theirs to a different charity. The accounting is rather messy but I think $2,000 is about the amount of the donations that I never got any direction on.
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October 5th, 2014 at 10:18:15 AM permalink
Quote: Sonuvabish

It sounds like you are describing Buzz's suspension as voluntary, like suicide by cop. Buzzard--malum prohibitum. kevintracy (or his creator)--malum in se. I've seen Buzz act the same way before, which leads me to believe he didn't think a banning would be justifiable...in fact, I think he may have thought doing so would be hypocritical, which was a running theme.

I went thru his posts. He complains a bit about the sale, with a sense of foreboding of the future. At some point, Zuga aggressively responds to him, and states he is in all his posts. Although Buzz appears to be be questioning Zuga's motives excessively, that statement isn't true--Buzz is either merely reporting factual information, or making up harmless fantasy for humor in the posts that do include Zuga. Buzz respectfully disagrees with everything he Zuga says, occasionally throwing in a joke that may be a barb--but they are incomprehensible as far as I can tell, so should be ignored. Buzz promises to quit posting on the topic, but Zuga aggressively responds to that post and every other, which is an obvious equal cause to further discord. Buzz ambiguously says Mike earned his respect; Zuga takes it out of context by assigning definitive negative meaning to it, and says Buzz admitted he had no respect for Zuga. Prior to the argument which led to suspension, Buzz jokingly suggested if trolling is not clearly defined, that he, and even Bob Evans (EvenBob), could face lifetime suspensions as of immediately--to which Mission cited as an admission of guilt. 14 days seems excessive, since all evidence of guilt supports an alternative theory. I don't really care. My point is...it is POSSIBLE Buzz didn't think he was going to get banned, at least not justifiably. Buzz clearly was not a good ambassador to a new member; I'm not protesting.



You're leaving something out. Buzz took several swipes at Zuga and his business. Zuga responded to those kindly and with great restraint. What you left out was Buzz's mention of one of Zuga's employees in an unflattering manner. This is a young woman who isn't even on this forum, a woman with who there is no rapport. A woman he found by looking into LCB. He was told by two administrators, including the one he addresses as darling, to stop. He refused. Not only did he refuse, he used her first and last name in ten different posts in one thread alone. Someone tell me when it becomes creepy.

He was finally, and possibly reluctantly, suspended for 14 days. This for offense number 6, not 5 as someone had thought.

Buzz is not a bad guy. He is a good husband, dad, and grandpa. He is also a veteran and I automatically add points for that. That may have gotten him some leniency along with being a "darling". He may have gotten a little apprehensive about the future of this forum and acting out was his way of showing it.

Zuga is running a business and, I would imagine, has neither the time nor the desire to babysit any of us. His business does not revolve around this forum.
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