ahiromu
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January 23rd, 2018 at 6:52:29 AM permalink
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-22/with-las-vegas-slumping-wynn-plans-4th-hotel-at-400-a-night

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The new hotel will be built on the site of the former Frontier hotel, across Las Vegas Boulevard from Wynn’s two existing properties. It will feature approximately 2,500 hotel rooms and be linked to the Wynn and Encore hotels by an “air-conditioned umbilical hallway,” Wynn said on a conference call Monday.

Wynn Resorts Ltd. acquired the 38-acre site for $336 million in December. The company is also building a hotel, convention center and lake resort, Paradise Park, behind its current properties.



I wonder if the hallway will be connected to the public... to bring people from the strip to the properties rather than just between them.
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FleaStiff
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January 23rd, 2018 at 7:26:26 AM permalink
Probably not,
The various properties want entry ways to function and transit corridors to function as separate areas.
Security concerns can be dealt with at entryways and this allows the umbilical area to function without distractions and delays
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January 23rd, 2018 at 8:23:36 AM permalink
Hopefully the casino floor will be less garish than Encore: the red-colored theme used there has never worked for me.
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January 23rd, 2018 at 9:27:18 AM permalink
It would be cool if they put in gondolas like the asian properties. A long covered bridge won’t work for many seniors.
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January 23rd, 2018 at 9:51:23 AM permalink
ahh.. thought Resort World's Echelon project was the combined Frontier/Stardust property.

so Wynn owns what used to be New Frontier, and next door Resort World has what used to be Stardust.
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January 23rd, 2018 at 10:32:43 AM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

It would be cool if they put in gondolas like the asian properties. A long covered bridge won’t work for many seniors.


People movers, like they use at some airports (DEN, MEM) would be nice!
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January 23rd, 2018 at 10:38:50 AM permalink
Quote: DeMango

People movers, like they use at some airports (DEN, MEM) would be nice!


Most of them would just be broken down like the escalator are there in Vegas.
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January 23rd, 2018 at 10:55:06 AM permalink
A private walkway built over a public road?
Seems unlikely.
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January 23rd, 2018 at 11:11:27 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

A private walkway built over a public road?
Seems unlikely.



Not in Vegas, especially, when your last name is Wynn.
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January 23rd, 2018 at 12:03:21 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

A private walkway built over a public road?
Seems unlikely.


An example is already in place between the Main Street Station and the California hotels downtown.
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January 23rd, 2018 at 12:22:31 PM permalink
Fire department insists on high clearance for those things so they can buy newer equipment and not have to worry but they do allow them since its profitable,

If they go People Movers I hope they are FAST no one really likes those slow moving things. Even old geezers like me want to get there rather than creep along.

Since casinos pay the taxes, they usually get what they want.
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January 23rd, 2018 at 5:12:00 PM permalink
Minneapolis has an entire skyway system downtown, probably at least partially public funded, between many private buildings.

A vegas skyway would make a lot of sense over LVB. Seems like they have a very high incidence of ped/vehicle accidents there.
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January 23rd, 2018 at 5:20:14 PM permalink
Would be more sensible to have it UNDERground, not aboveground.

Like the old school Underground Atlanta, or the way Montreal has an underground city.

During the heat of summer and underground walkway would be cooler, especially if the aboveground one is open to the air and sun.
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January 23rd, 2018 at 6:13:46 PM permalink
I always wished casinos had trains with couches to sit on instead of just lines, or a waiting area with a take a number system. The problem with a train would be getting it to work for wheel chairs. Otherwise people movers are great. Knowing casinos, they only go in and not out.
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January 23rd, 2018 at 8:27:18 PM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

I always wished casinos had trains with couches to sit on instead of just lines, or a waiting area with a take a number system. The problem with a train would be getting it to work for wheel chairs. Otherwise people movers are great. Knowing casinos, they only go in and not out.



I don't know the history of the monorail installation. But u have to think they went thru the same process then. What would have made sense would be to bore a tunnel directly under LVB with stops every block, similar to the ATL subway. Escalators up to the surface on both sides of LVB. Feels extremely safe to use.

Must be that much more expensive to bore underground than build a track above ground.

Perhaps it also has to do with substructure of buildings, vaults, electric and sewer.

Might also be fault lines in that area. Perhaps too vulnerable to quakes.
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January 23rd, 2018 at 9:31:16 PM permalink
I think subsurface water is more of an issue than fault lines. There is a reason Las Vegas is located where it is. Despite hundreds of miles of desert around it, water flows there when it rains. Remember the cars floating in the parking garage at Caesars?

Also, tunnels are way, way more expensive than bridges.
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January 23rd, 2018 at 9:40:52 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

I don't know the history of the monorail installation. But u have to think they went thru the same process then. What would have made sense would be to bore a tunnel directly under LVB with stops every block, similar to the ATL subway. Escalators up to the surface on both sides of LVB. Feels extremely safe to use.

Must be that much more expensive to bore underground than build a track above ground.

Perhaps it also has to do with substructure of buildings, vaults, electric and sewer.

Might also be fault lines in that area. Perhaps too vulnerable to quakes.



As you know, they consider all options.

I'm curious where all the water comes from for Las Vegas. I once read Lake Mead but that didn't make much since to me. Mr. Wynn will need a building permit etc. but like someone said, no one dare oppose such a project. So, in summary, we have the new Wynn Palace in Macau, the new Wynn Boston under construction, the new Wynn West being drawn, the new "tower" behind Encore/Wynn and the lagoon. I hope I have all this energy when I'm in my 70's like Mr. Wynn seems to. He was quoted as saying "hotel rooms have a 50-60 percent profit margin". I'm not sure of the room comp policy at the various properties, but the retail price for a room is five star. Is it a house of cards which could come crumbling down?
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