Noir Invites

I was wondering what folks knew or what their experiences were getting a Noir card invitation. In the past iterations of the mLife website, it seemed that Noir was synonymous with 1,000,000 tier credits while still being "by invitation", but in the most recent update, they seem to have gotten rid of all the references to 1,000,000 tier credits. Has the threshold been raised? Are they just trying to keep their options open?

I've been a pretty solid Platinum player for a while, but my latest trip put me in reasonable striking distance of 1,000,000. I think it would be a cool personal achievement to get Noir--even if only once--but I have a feeling that the change is to keep video poker riff raff (like me) out if they "only" hit 1,000,000 tier credits.

I've been wondering the same exact thing and whenever I ask the casino hosts I have at Aria and The Mirage, as well as the MLife desk folks, I keep getting the run around. The initial response is "it's invite only", which we know. When I ask what does that mean, they say, "It's based on your level of play and activity", which we also know. One woman at the desk told me it was 2M tier credits. One of the hosts told me the same, but said it wasn't a firm thing. The other host said it keeps changing and they haven't identified a specific level of play. Sooooo, I'm not sure that they really know. My last ask about it was in an email today and the reply from the host is "It's invite only and there is no set # to reach." I don't know why he just doesn't say, look lady, you're not even close so
give it up - obviously wants me to keep playing :) It really is annoying.

I just got to 1.6M tier credits this weekend (earned since they zeroed out my balance in October) and I have not been invited. I'm going again in a few weeks, so if I get to 2M and get an invite, that might be the marker (even though they've said there is none).

If anyone else has actual firm info, would be great. I'm a little bent out of shape because they told me I'd keep my status for 1 year after they switched to the new program on Oct 1 and I was Noir prior to Oct 1. I'm back down to platinum, which is aggravating, esp since I've maxed out my Express Comps twice and you can only keep up to 5k ECs if you're below Noir (Noir you can keep up to 10k ECs).

Honestly thinking about going back to CET, I think it might be easier to reach the highest Diamond level or even Seven Stars (which are clearly defined) rather than this vague "we'll let you know when you get there" Mlife Noir bit.

On my last trip, I spoke with another player who has Noir status and has had it for many years. According to her, when MGM set the 1M tier credit mark, the number of Noirs exploded which pissed off the long time Noirs who felt like their exclusive group had just been invaded. MGM's solution was to return it to invitation only - which she felt was a huge mistake because you piss people off when you give them something and then take it away, as evidenced by LakeTabourie's comments above. Her solution was to create a new level higher than Noir, make that invite only and bump up the old long-time Noirs to it.

I was trying to feel her out to determine what is required to get the invite, but she has had it for enough years that I don't think she could accurately answer the question. But it is definitely something I am interested in finding out and I hope everyone will continue to post their experience to see if we can quantify this somehow. I think it is important not only to mention the amount of tier credits you've earned, but also how you earned them and over what period of time.

I called up VIP Services not too long ago asking about an offer they mailed to me and asked the "invite only" question. She said they switched it because too many people were getting 1,000,000 points by spending at the hotel, and they wanted the rewards program to reward players, not just spenders. I guess that makes sense: I think the "invite only" tag was put on around the time they started allowing you to earn 25 tier credits per dollar spent in Vegas. This would make the 1,000,000 mark attainable by spending $40,000--a lot of money for an individual, but I suppose someone organizing a few dinners or events for a company could easily reach it.

I then asked, "Well, how do I get a Noir card?" She said I should talk to my host. I wasn't crazy about that answer as I haven't had the best experiences with hosts through the years. If other posters are at 1.6M with no Noir invite, then I am definitely not as close as I thought--might just not pursue this any further.

Just to answer your question about how the TCs were earned, mine were almost entirely on slot play, with a very minimal amount on video poker (since you earn very little on that) and on some time at the tables, but I'd say at least 90% on slot play. I spend next to nothing on services or food since it's all comped or covered by Express Comps, so I earn no TCs on spend. Thanks , FunkyDoc!

Quote: LakeTabourie

Just to answer your question about how the TCs were earned, mine were almost entirely on slot play, with a very minimal amount on video poker (since you earn very little on that) and on some time at the tables, but I'd say at least 90% on slot play. I spend next to nothing on services or food since it's all comped or covered by Express Comps, so I earn no TCs on spend. Thanks , FunkyDoc!

The fact that they have yet to invite you is mindboggling if this is your current gaming breakdown. Threaten to your host you'll go to CET if you don't become Noir? That's what I would do.

So...here's an update on Noir.

I'm currently at 2.4M tier credits, this last trip was all from slots and a very little video poker. I was there Fri/Sat.

I actually ran into my host and asked him again about Noir. He said that the whole program has been very frustrating for the hosts. The original message was, whatever status you were at the day before the program change on Oct 1, 2012 you would have through Sept 30, 2013. Then the mgmt changed their mind and said no, not what we're going to do. And when players called and were upset they were told to contact their host. My host said this was a nightmare for all the hosts (as you can imagine).

Additionally, he said that the thought was they had way too many players in Noir and once they made the Oct 1 change, they removed 98% of those players from Noir and bumped them back down to Platinum. Unreal. So I said, what does it take now to get an invite. He said there is no set number, it's no longer 2M tier credits, and that play has to be reviewed by some VP and then invitations are sent accordingly. He knows it's frustrating for former Noir members, and he always gives me limo pickup and dropoff, but not having the card keeps you from getting certain juice when you you're looking for comps (best table, guaranteed restaurant reservations, etc).

Another player and I were talking with him and told him how CET has clearly delineated levels and you know what you have to do to achieve the level. I think I'd already be at Seven Stars, or close to it, if I'd done all my play at CET since Oct.

It's really aggravating. My dilemma is that I much prefer the MGM hotels - the CET hotels are really getting dumpy; the Nobu tower is great, but the casino is a dump.

Anyways, that's my story, thought I'd share it, think I'll be spending more time at CET (stay at Aria, go play at CET). I'll let you know when/if I make it to Noir and what my tier credit score is.

Boo.

Quote: LakeTabourie

So...here's an update on Noir.

I'm currently at 2.4M tier credits, this last trip was all from slots and a very little video poker. I was there Fri/Sat.

I actually ran into my host and asked him again about Noir. He said that the whole program has been very frustrating for the hosts. The original message was, whatever status you were at the day before the program change on Oct 1, 2012 you would have through Sept 30, 2013. Then the mgmt changed their mind and said no, not what we're going to do. And when players called and were upset they were told to contact their host. My host said this was a nightmare for all the hosts (as you can imagine).

Additionally, he said that the thought was they had way too many players in Noir and once they made the Oct 1 change, they removed 98% of those players from Noir and bumped them back down to Platinum. Unreal. So I said, what does it take now to get an invite. He said there is no set number, it's no longer 2M tier credits, and that play has to be reviewed by some VP and then invitations are sent accordingly. He knows it's frustrating for former Noir members, and he always gives me limo pickup and dropoff, but not having the card keeps you from getting certain juice when you you're looking for comps (best table, guaranteed restaurant reservations, etc).

Another player and I were talking with him and told him how CET has clearly delineated levels and you know what you have to do to achieve the level. I think I'd already be at Seven Stars, or close to it, if I'd done all my play at CET since Oct.

It's really aggravating. My dilemma is that I much prefer the MGM hotels - the CET hotels are really getting dumpy; the Nobu tower is great, but the casino is a dump.

Anyways, that's my story, thought I'd share it, think I'll be spending more time at CET (stay at Aria, go play at CET). I'll let you know when/if I make it to Noir and what my tier credit score is.

Boo.

The highest tier levels seem to be frustrating if you are trying to monetize the value. It does seem +EV to earn them if you can afford it if you know what you are getting.

Quote: LakeTabourie

My dilemma is that I much prefer the MGM hotels - the CET hotels are really getting dumpy

That is so true about CET. I feel like I'm being punished when I go to the CP high limit slots room.

Best of luck on getting Noir! I'll just hold off doing another Vegas trip for a while. As an aside, I was once playing baccarat at the Bellagio, and an Asian woman sits down next to me. They ask for her card, which turns out to be Noir. She waves it at them saying, "Look at this card! It's useless! I don't get anything from it!" I'm thinking, "Lady...I'd be happy to take that problem off your hands."

As an update, thought I'd share the info that with 4.5M Tier credits, I did not make Noir. I'm kinda done with MLife. The host is great (I always get limo service), but without the damn card, you can't get certain things. Platinum is 200k Tier Credits, I blew that out of the water. Not much player incentive to continue with them.

I stayed at Nobu at Caesar's and have a crazy fantastic comp and will get Seven Stars there after a trip next month, I'm sure (I'm very close). CET comps/benefits have continued to get much, much better and with the new hotel opening in the old Bill's Gambling space, they'll finally have a higher end property.

Wow. 4.5M and not Noir. That's mind-boggling and a whole lotta bens walking out the door.

I'm sure there are people far more knowledgeable than me that could probably comment on this but I have heard that some casinos will grandfather your card in to the highest or 2nd highest level with no play required for a certain amount of time. With that high level of play and almost all slots, I am sure there will be casinos rolling out the red carpet for you. Maybe when MGM asks you why you haven't been coming as much and you say ______ is treating you better, it might clean up their act and you can get that Noir level and those exclusive experiences.

Got to platinum (just barely) with Asian last name and no invite. I wonder what it takes to get invited?

Quote: LakeTabourie

As an update, thought I'd share the info that with 4.5M Tier credits, I did not make Noir. I'm kinda done with MLife. The host is great (I always get limo service), but without the damn card, you can't get certain things. Platinum is 200k Tier Credits, I blew that out of the water. Not much player incentive to continue with them.

I stayed at Nobu at Caesar's and have a crazy fantastic comp and will get Seven Stars there after a trip next month, I'm sure (I'm very close). CET comps/benefits have continued to get much, much better and with the new hotel opening in the old Bill's Gambling space, they'll finally have a higher end property.

LT, what do youou mean there are certain things you can't get without the Noir card? I assume you get the limo, full RFB any time of the year, at Bellagio or Aria (Suites?) I don't know what more you can get beyond that.

I'd be interested to know your review of the Nobu hotel. I have a comp for there as well. The Bill's project doesn't look so good now that the Gansevoort dropped out...

Quote: teddys

LT, what do youou mean there are certain things you can't get without the Noir card? I assume you get the limo, full RFB any time of the year, at Bellagio or Aria (Suites?) I don't know what more you can get beyond that.

I'd be interested to know your review of the Nobu hotel. I have a comp for there as well. The Bill's project doesn't look so good now that the Gansevoort dropped out...

teddys- there are some things that flashing the card will get you, but you're right, for the most part I suppose it's close, esp if the host takes care of the limo. I get an okay food comp (it's been about $300/day) so not full RFB; twice we couldn't get dinner reservations and the reservationist had asked "Are you Noir?", and probably my biggest issue (besides not earning Tier Credits at 40%) is that you max out your express comps at $5k. I've repeatedly hit that and Noir max for express comps is $10k.

One thing I don't understand very well is discretionary and actual comps, and my Mirage host tried to explain it to me. I wonder if I used more of my express comps if that would have mattered.

Nobu was nice, but my comp was only for a King Deluxe King, so not a big nor fancy room. But since it's new, it's seems super nice. It's small - not like anything I could get in Augustus or Octavius, but I like the location - right smack in the middle, so easy in and out. Room service menu is amazing if you like Japanese food, but pricey. If you're not too interested in the pools (and at this time of year, I think they're closed) then the location is great, it's right next to the Nobu Restaurant, next to The Gossy Bar. Overall, I think the whole casino needs a lift - some of it's just downright dumpy.

My understanding about the hotel formerly known as the Gansevoort ;) is that it's still happening, Gansevoort just won't be attached, but it's still a CET property. Fingers crossed.

The comp at Caesar's was for a "Girl's Night Out" event - up to 5 nights (I stayed for 3 in Nobu), $750 shopping certificate for selected shops at the Forum, two tix to Shania Twain (great seats, btw), a "Girl's Night Out" cocktail party with a shwag bag with approx $200 worth of goods. The host also gave me airfare ($500) (based on some previous play), and I had limo pickup/drop off. Additionally, based on play, the host gave me $1000 free play (Reel Rewards) and a $400 dinner comp at Joe's. And I'm not even Seven Stars yet!

My current MLife offers are all for discounted rooms and 1 offer at the Mirage for $700 FP, 3 nights in a suite, and limo pickup/drop off. Now, I know that if I contact my Aria host, I'll get however many nights in a Sky Suite with some food/bev and a limo pickup/dropoff. But that's it. Mirage host is a little more generous, so get RFB, but it's a different level of property than Aria. My CET offers are for free nigths (always) free play, shopping certificates, show tix - loads of stuff. I even have an offer from the Cosmo (my old Mirage host is there now) for 3 nights and $420 FP and $100 food/bev. I haven't even stopped by the Cosmo in ages.

Perhaps I'm feeling a bit too entitled, but I've been a loyal and frequent patron (I've been to Vegas 7 times this year) and I take my play seriously. Can't believe I've not gotten better treatment with MLife. I've let both my hosts (Aria and Mirage) know - I'll update this if I hear anything back.

Quote: LakeTabourie

teddys- there are some things that flashing the card will get you, but you're right, for the most part I suppose it's close, esp if the host takes care of the limo. I get an okay food comp (it's been about $300/day) so not full RFB; twice we couldn't get dinner reservations and the reservationist had asked "Are you Noir?", and probably my biggest issue (besides not earning Tier Credits at 40%) is that you max out your express comps at $5k. I've repeatedly hit that and Noir max for express comps is $10k.

One thing I don't understand very well is discretionary and actual comps, and my Mirage host tried to explain it to me. I wonder if I used more of my express comps if that would have mattered.

Nobu was nice, but my comp was only for a King Deluxe King, so not a big nor fancy room. But since it's new, it's seems super nice. It's small - not like anything I could get in Augustus or Octavius, but I like the location - right smack in the middle, so easy in and out. Room service menu is amazing if you like Japanese food, but pricey. If you're not too interested in the pools (and at this time of year, I think they're closed) then the location is great, it's right next to the Nobu Restaurant, next to The Gossy Bar. Overall, I think the whole casino needs a lift - some of it's just downright dumpy.

My understanding about the hotel formerly known as the Gansevoort ;) is that it's still happening, Gansevoort just won't be attached, but it's still a CET property. Fingers crossed.

The comp at Caesar's was for a "Girl's Night Out" event - up to 5 nights (I stayed for 3 in Nobu), $750 shopping certificate for selected shops at the Forum, two tix to Shania Twain (great seats, btw), a "Girl's Night Out" cocktail party with a shwag bag with approx $200 worth of goods. The host also gave me airfare ($500) (based on some previous play), and I had limo pickup/drop off. Additionally, based on play, the host gave me $1000 free play (Reel Rewards) and a $400 dinner comp at Joe's. And I'm not even Seven Stars yet!

My current MLife offers are all for discounted rooms and 1 offer at the Mirage for $700 FP, 3 nights in a suite, and limo pickup/drop off. Now, I know that if I contact my Aria host, I'll get however many nights in a Sky Suite with some food/bev and a limo pickup/dropoff. But that's it. Mirage host is a little more generous, so get RFB, but it's a different level of property than Aria. My CET offers are for free nigths (always) free play, shopping certificates, show tix - loads of stuff. I even have an offer from the Cosmo (my old Mirage host is there now) for 3 nights and $420 FP and $100 food/bev. I haven't even stopped by the Cosmo in ages.

Perhaps I'm feeling a bit too entitled, but I've been a loyal and frequent patron (I've been to Vegas 7 times this year) and I take my play seriously. Can't believe I've not gotten better treatment with MLife. I've let both my hosts (Aria and Mirage) know - I'll update this if I hear anything back.

Completely bizarre that they haven't given you the Noir invite. What the hell are they waiting for? Do you have any black or "gray" marks on your play, like a flat-bet incident at BJ or only playing 99.54+% VP for all of your coin-in? Just curious what your gambling patterns are such that they would actively piss you off like that.

Quote: AcesAndEights

Completely bizarre that they haven't given you the Noir invite. What the hell are they waiting for? Do you have any black or "gray" marks on your play, like a flat-bet incident at BJ or only playing 99.54+% VP for all of your coin-in? Just curious what your gambling patterns are such that they would actively piss you off like that.

I'm with Aces; I've been playing for comps for over 20 years, been quite happy with my offers, and never thought someone who played at the level you do wouldn't be able to get anything you want, certainly including top tier of any loyalty program. Especially the perks based on play; about 3x the value of offers I receive. There's definitely something strange and unexpected going on.

Quote: LakeTabourie

Perhaps I'm feeling a bit too entitled, but I've been a loyal and frequent patron (I've been to Vegas 7 times this year) and I take my play seriously. Can't believe I've not gotten better treatment with MLife. I've let both my hosts (Aria and Mirage) know - I'll update this if I hear anything back.

The only thing that comes to mind with your predicament is that MLife has made a conscious decision -not- to offer people like you Noir which means... they're really abusing the fact that their places are nicer AND a bunch of people in your situation are choosing MLife instead (I refuse to believe that you're an aberration). The difference in comping astounds me... enjoy Caesars.

Quote: AcesAndEights

Do you have any black or "gray" marks on your play, like a flat-bet incident at BJ or only playing 99.54+% VP for all of your coin-in? Just curious what your gambling patterns are such that they would actively piss you off like that.

Aces, I don't think I have any marks on my play - I'm a pretty straightforward slots player, mostly $1 and $5 machines. If I'm up I sometimes go for $10 or $25, but that's not a significant part of my play. I did hit a $15k last time at Aria and took a check for $12k of that, but I still had a lot of coin in even with that win.

Both hosts have mentioned that they've had a lot of complaints from their clients about the Noir program. Another player and I were talking with the Aria host about CET and saying how it's pretty clear what the guidelines are. I pretty much hit 200k tier credits last time with a few hours play at the Mirage (167k) so I'll make it to Platinum and then concentrate my play at CET properties. Since I know I've already made Platinum for the following MLife year, it's kind of a no brainer.

The difference between 200k and Noir is so vast - they really need something in between. So give Noir to people like me and then do an Ultra Noir for your super elite people. Whales don't need any sort of "card" or identity, because they're so stratospherically different from the regulard Mlife card users/players (IMHO). I think they've made such a mess of all this.

And I do think you could be right about intentional decision - I think Vegas is recovering from the economic downturn and they're seeing a lot more business, so they don't necessarily need people like me. It's a shame because as I said, I've been a loyal patron, easily the last 10 years or so. Boooo!

Quote: LakeTabourie

Both hosts have mentioned that they've had a lot of complaints from their clients about the Noir program. Another player and I were talking with the Aria host about CET and saying how it's pretty clear what the guidelines are. I pretty much hit 200k tier credits last time with a few hours play at the Mirage (167k) so I'll make it to Platinum and then concentrate my play at CET properties. Since I know I've already made Platinum for the following MLife year, it's kind of a no brainer.

The difference between 200k and Noir is so vast - they really need something in between. So give Noir to people like me and then do an Ultra Noir for your super elite people. Whales don't need any sort of "card" or identity, because they're so stratospherically different from the regulard Mlife card users/players (IMHO). I think they've made such a mess of all this.

And I do think you could be right about intentional decision - I think Vegas is recovering from the economic downturn and they're seeing a lot more business, so they don't necessarily need people like me. It's a shame because as I said, I've been a loyal patron, easily the last 10 years or so. Boooo!

The "high rollers" (Noir people who play way more then people who get invited and hover) don't need 40% extra too.... I have just over 200k TC and don't play on betting any more since I dunno what Noir requires, and the coin in isn't worth the extra 10% bump in point accumulation. I'm not really happy with Mlife in terms of the coin in I've given them to the comps I've gotten. CET is a lot better. I spent way less and earned a ton more in free rooms, freeplay, and food. Although I do enjoy MGM's 9/6 JoB on dollars, which CET has none of unless you go outside of Las Vegas.

Quote: LakeTabourie

Nobu was nice, but my comp was only for a King Deluxe King, so not a big nor fancy room. But since it's new, it's seems super nice. It's small - not like anything I could get in Augustus or Octavius, but I like the location - right smack in the middle, so easy in and out. Room service menu is amazing if you like Japanese food, but pricey. If you're not too interested in the pools (and at this time of year, I think they're closed) then the location is great, it's right next to the Nobu Restaurant, next to The Gossy Bar. Overall, I think the whole casino needs a lift - some of it's just downright dumpy.

My understanding about the hotel formerly known as the Gansevoort ;) is that it's still happening, Gansevoort just won't be attached, but it's still a CET property. Fingers crossed.

The comp at Caesar's was for a "Girl's Night Out" event - up to 5 nights (I stayed for 3 in Nobu), $750 shopping certificate for selected shops at the Forum, two tix to Shania Twain (great seats, btw), a "Girl's Night Out" cocktail party with a shwag bag with approx $200 worth of goods. The host also gave me airfare ($500) (based on some previous play), and I had limo pickup/drop off. Additionally, based on play, the host gave me $1000 free play (Reel Rewards) and a $400 dinner comp at Joe's. And I'm not even Seven Stars yet!

That's great. A great thing about CET is you can get great offers even if you are just a gold card holder if you just put in the ADT. I'm probably going to go for SS by the end of the year; the benefits are just too good to pass up. (I'm at 113,000 tier credits now).

Just an update here...

I emailed my Aria host to see if there was a leadership person I could provide feedback to and he said he'd sent my comments to the higher ups and agreed the program was messed up wrt Noir. Didn't hear back from him, and at the same time my Mirage host happened to reach out to just check in. I sent him a long email about my thoughts on the program and the gulf between Platinum and Noir and how I was close to Seven Stars at CET with similar play. It was a fairly detailed email with comments about the comps and events and how cheap Mlife comps were compared to CET, as well as my disgust at how Hyatt members could match their Hyatt level with MLife INCLUDING Noir (when I learned that I flipped - some mattress warrior who never plays at MGM could get Noir? WTF).

Never heard from Aria host again, but the Mirage host took it to the president of MLife and had a conversation with him and they agreed to up me to Noir. I wanted to make it clear to the host that if Noir was like 10M TCs, that wasn't going to happen and I hope they didn't expect me to play at that level and he said no no, you earned this, you should be Noir. When I said, well why wasn't I, and that piece wasn't as clear. He said it's invite only and they review players, so I don't know if I just got overlooked or if you need to have a host advocate. I did get the impression that my comments about CET and switching to them had some impact.

What's interesting (though perhaps not entirely relevant to attaining status), is that the host was trying to impress upon the pres that they had to start doing better comps for people. So he's going to host a "Girls Night Out" event in March, similar to the comp/event I outlined in my email. He also said they were going to start looking at shopping gift certificates like I am getting at CET. He (the host) feels strongly that they need to be doing some different things at Mlife and he said my comments helped his case. I think they could easily see what CET are doing regardless of my comments, but perhaps they were some proof that people are defecting.

At any rate, that's the latest. I still feel bent out of shape, to be honest - it took some effort on my part to get what the host told me I already deserved. But, I'll live :) Just wanted to share the info in case anyone else might find it useful.

Thanks everyone for all of your input.

Well grats on Noir level and now your host(and by extension the president of Mlife) know if they screw with you again, that you have no issue walking. Hopefully that gives you the leverage and you won't have any more issues maintaining your status.

Congrats on the Noir. I hope you don't mind me asking. May I ask you your play? Slots or table games? If table games what kind of avg bet do you have? Thanks

Quote: mds

Congrats on the Noir. I hope you don't mind me asking. May I ask you your play? Slots or table games? If table games what kind of avg bet do you have? Thanks

Hi MDS, thanks and no problem. 95% slot play. Table games sometimes depends on who I'm with, I've got one friend who prefers tables, so when I'm with her I play more, but not a whole lot. And really, I only play Let it Ride, typically $15-$20 on the main bet and $25 on the 3 card bet. If I'm up, then $25 on the main bet. I find the 3 card bet to be the best bet on the table. If I do find myself playing blackjack (rarely), $25, but I find blackjack stressful, lol.

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Why did you say that? What am I missing? This bet has paid off for me loads of times.

Sounds like you just have to ask for it...over and over...and be insistent...great customer service there! Regardless, congrats.

Are you playing high limit slots? 5$ machine? 25$ machine? Im asking because you have sooo many points im wondering how you accumulated them? I want to find out what im doing wrong..
Thanks

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Now that your are Noir you should have your pick of the litter of the NYE events from the different properties.

Quote: mds

Are you playing high limit slots? 5$ machine? 25$ machine? Im asking because you have sooo many points im wondering how you accumulated them? I want to find out what im doing wrong..
Thanks

Mostly $1 and $5 dollar machines, but on the $1, usually 40-60 in and $5, usually 5-10 in. If I'm up, I'll play $10 (3-5 in) and some $25 (2-3 in). And I admit to a lot of recycling :)

Congrats on Noir! It's nice knowing that there is some hope at some mysteriously-high point level up there. I ended up taking a break from mLife and headed over to Wynn/Encore over the summer. Starting over from scratch was tough, but hitting a royal the first day eased the pain. :)

Quote: Ibeatyouraces

It's exactly the same as the Pair Plus bet on Three Card Poker. That's why.

What he means is it's a 7%+ house edge bet. The main game has a lower house edge. But given the stakes you're playing there vs. the slots, I wouldn't personally worry about that very much.

And congrats on getting Noir. I'm guessing you just slipped through the cracks since they mandate an invite now. Making approval non-automatic makes more work on hosts as well obviously...

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Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Right. Playing it is one thing, saying it's the best best on the LIR table is another.

Even though it wasn't written this way..I interpreted the statement more like: "They have had better results from the 3-card bet", which is definitely possible in the short-term.

Quote: LakeTabourie

Mostly $1 and $5 dollar machines, but on the $1, usually 40-60 in and $5, usually 5-10 in. If I'm up, I'll play $10 (3-5 in) and some $25 (2-3 in). And I admit to a lot of recycling :)

How much tier credits did you earn, and what type of coin in? I don't understand what you mean by "in" from your post above. I'm curious as to how it works but I probably won't get it since I only play VP.

Quote: djatc

How much tier credits did you earn, and what type of coin in? I don't understand what you mean by "in" from your post above. I'm curious as to how it works but I probably won't get it since I only play VP.

If I may, I'm pretty sure she's telling you the range of units per spin she plays at each denomination. So $40-60/spin on $1 machines, $25-50/$5 dollar machines, $30-50/spin on $10's, and $50-75 on $25 machines. IMHO, that's some serious play, much higher than I ever played the year I made Diamond (04); can't imagine what the Noir people were thinking.

I can't find good info on the Mlife system, is it still 1 point for 3 dollars in on slot play or did they change it.

Thank you for sharing with us. I am not a slot player and certainly not a high limit one, so my question is how do you feed the machines? Do you relentlessly feed the machines $100 bills? Have a line of credit and markers are digitally transferred to the machines as credits? Hand a wad of cash to a high limit cashier or slot attendant for which they give you a voucher?

Thanks!

Quote: ico2525

Thank you for sharing with us. I am not a slot player and certainly not a high limit one, so my question is how do you feed the machines? Do you relentlessly feed the machines $100 bills? Have a line of credit and markers are digitally transferred to the machines as credits? Hand a wad of cash to a high limit cashier or slot attendant for which they give you a voucher?

Thanks!

I know at some casinos for a line of credit they give you cash or a slot voucher at the cage when you sign the marker to play the machines with (and it's your choice). That's what they told me at a few places when I opened my line of credit (I don't play slots, but they have like a speech they give to new accounts explaining how to use the line of credit). It's generally up to you how you want to take it. If feeding 100s into the machine makes you happy, they'll give you a wad of 100s. If feeding $1s into the machine makes you happy, they'll give you a bag full of $1s. If you want a slot voucher for $20K they'll print that for you.

I don't think they can digitally transfer credits to the machine. I'm pretty sure that would be illegal to be able to remotely modify the # of credits that are on a machine.