"Pojack" - a new poker/Blackjack combo....

Quote: buzzpaff

Let's not forget both Geoff and Stephen are world class Texas Hold'em champions. Where do you think Stephen found the time to practice all those chip tricks?? LOL

Yes, buzzpaff.
I do practice chip tricks a lot went I play Poker, But not went I play Blackjack (Because I don't want the Casino to know that I am a good player at Blackjack).

Quote: Tiltpoul

To my knowledge the only casinos that I've been to that have Pai Gow Mania (3-card first, then PGP) is Wild Wild West at Bally's in AC, which is only open on weekends, and Harrah's St Louis. Harrah's St Louis gets quite a bit of play, or did, though now they have Fortune PGP, so who knows. Before, it was your only option.

Places that DID have it at one time, though not anymore, include Isle of Capri KC, Ameristar St Charles (across the river from Harrah's St Louis).

Some of new games get a flash of activity, only to greatly drop from the scene to become "remnants that linger" instead of becoming "basic powerhouse staples": Deuces Wild, LIR, CSP, Mini Pai Gow, etc. versus Three Card poker and PGP. This is the real key: staying power. And I think Blackjack Switch, and EZ Baccarat & EZ Pai Gow may have that staying power.

Quote: MathExtremist

It's amazing how often new game inventors focus only on the gameplay from the standpoint of the player -- how fun it is, how much they can win, how easy it is to play. None of that matters if the dealer can't deal the game, or it's too slow, or any of the myriad reasons for a game to be operationally impractical.

This is crucial. If a casino operator can't be able to operate the game, or it wouldn't be in a casino operator's interest to operate the game, it will not be offered or even considered. It is up to the inventor to either invent or repair a game invention that works for the casino, and not just for the players. It matters if the players like the game, and find it desirable, sure. But it REALLY matters if the casino operator likes the game, and find it desirable. Most game inventors don't realize that what they think about the game matters little.

Quote: EvenBob

Quote: Paigowdan

dear sir;

have taken my game to many casino's and have tried it
privately. black jack is played first and poker is
played after similar to crib poker. using your bj cards.
only extra cards are give to who ever is playing poker. it is
quite fast and casino like it. but they want to see it
in Vegas first.

tray it at home or in your office.

From the poor spelling, lack of caps, awful sentence
structure, this guy has to be a foreigner, Asian probably.
He has a poor command of English which will not help
him in selling his game. Does he know 95% of all game
designers fail?

No. Seems to be an American from NYC. Quite often a quickly written and defensive email or forum post response is not thought out or spelled checked, just a quick hack response to get a reply or response out. So what.
Perhaps 90% of my game design review work is having the math and English up on an operating table to create and fix documentation (Game Sheets, How-to-Play rack cards, product description guides, dealer/supervisor's manuals, etc.) I go through it a thousands times, it is the complete opposite end of the spectrum from my own "quick hacks," too.
Some of the best and most thought out games I see are from Asians or Asian-Americans, the typical American-American is often not meticulous, and I include myself when I am not meticulous.

Quote: Paigowdan

Some of new games get a flash of activity, only to greatly drop from the scene to become "remnants that linger" instead of becoming "basic powerhouse staples": Deuces Wild, LIR, CSP, Mini Pai Gow, etc. versus Three Card poker and PGP. This is the real key: staying power. And I think Blackjack Switch, and EZ Baccarat & EZ Pai Gow may have that staying power.

Hate to break it to you Dan, but I don't think Switch has staying power. Most of the Midwest casinos that did have it have abandoned it for Mississippi Stud or a regular BJ table. I agree with you on EZ Baccarat for sure, as Caesars has jumped on that game. If/when Caesars jumps on EZ Pai Gow, I'll give that one to you too... but right now, they have too many casinos, too many places. If they pick it up as a WIDESPREAD game (emphasis on WIDESPREAD), then it will become a staying power game.

Quote: Tiltpoul

Hate to break it to you Dan, but I don't think Switch has staying power. Most of the Midwest casinos that did have it have abandoned it for Mississippi Stud or a regular BJ table.

Ia Switch taken out because of too many dealer errors?

Quote: UCivan

Ia Switch taken out because of too many dealer errors?

I don't think so... I think it's mostly because it requires two bets, and that scares some blackjack players. Midwest gamers tend to be a little more conservative with their money, and your bread and butter customer wants to play games with either a large reward or less risk. This does neither; you only get even money on BJ and if you're not playing the bonus bet, you aren't going to win that much per bet.

They had the game at Hollywood, two tables to be precise. One table was nearly always open, but didn't have as much play. The other table was a weekends/evenings only pit, and table mins were very high. I think Rising Sun still has the game, but I wouldn't be surprised if they took it out as well.

I know at the Mardi Gras in Blackhawk, Switch table was in a terrible location. And $10 minimum bets which meant $20 minimum.
Table game rules were under plexiglass and tiny print. There were no brochures available. In the same pit, you could play $10 DD
pitch. Downstairs you could play $5 BJ. Don't know if game is still there, but it sure had a lot of hurdles to clear !!!

Quote: buzzpaff

I know at the Mardi Gras in Blackhawk, Switch table was in a terrible location. And $10 minimum bets which meant $20 minimum.
Table game rules were under plexiglass and tiny print. There were no brochures available. In the same pit, you could play $10 DD
pitch. Downstairs you could play $5 BJ. Don't know if game is still there, but it sure had a lot of hurdles to clear !!!

This is a bad sign. When a TGD wants to get rid of a game, all he / she has to do it to move the game to a corner with no traffic or raise the minimum bet. Switch is having both there....

And this is how a Shufflemaster product was handled. Just imagine what chance a small vendor would have had. So much
for letting the customer decide which game he wants to play.

Quote: Paigowdan

Quote: EvenBob

Quote: Paigowdan

dear sir;

have taken my game to many casino's and have tried it
privately. black jack is played first and poker is
played after similar to crib poker. using your bj cards.
only extra cards are give to who ever is playing poker. it is
quite fast and casino like it. but they want to see it
in Vegas first.

tray it at home or in your office.

From the poor spelling, lack of caps, awful sentence
structure, this guy has to be a foreigner, Asian probably.
He has a poor command of English which will not help
him in selling his game. Does he know 95% of all game
designers fail?

Some of the best and most thought out games I see are from Asians or Asian-Americans.

You made me remember, "You go now!" (LOL)