G2E 2025 expo passes

Galaxy Gaming recently announced a deal with Hasbro to develop casino games based on Monopoly, Yahtzee and Battleship.

They have been including Mr Monopoly in the advertising for their G2E booth in industry news feeds, and including discount links which get you free expo passes.

Im 99% sure I’ll be there.

Anybody else?

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Im 99% sure I’ll be there.

Anybody else?
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Thanks DJ! I just signed up. About 25% to go.

Thinking about it. Do you think this is a safe place for an active table game AP to go?

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Galaxy Gaming recently announced a deal with Hasbro to develop casino games based on Monopoly, Yahtzee and Battleship.

They have been including Mr Monopoly in the advertising for their G2E booth in industry news feeds, and including discount links which get you free expo passes.


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Is it 1998 all over again? Battleship and Monopoly were popular slots in AC back then. I remember a few Yahtzee machines in the Sands but no one ever seemed to play them.

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Is it 1998 all over again? Battleship and Monopoly were popular slots in AC back then. I remember a few Yahtzee machines in the Sands but no one ever seemed to play them.
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I wasn’t aware of those slots, but I think the answer is “No.”

As far as I know, Galaxy has never done anything with slots. Although they DO have some igaming games, I doubt that they’d be making this big of an announcement over some igames.

There’s no real details yet, but I’m pretty sure these are regular felt table games.

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Is it 1998 all over again? Battleship and Monopoly were popular slots in AC back then. I remember a few Yahtzee machines in the Sands but no one ever seemed to play them.
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I wasn’t aware of those slots, but the answer is “No.”

As far as I know, Galaxy has never done anything with slots. Although there’s no details yet, I’m pretty sure these are table games.
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Battleship was a flavor of the month machine one summer in AC. Every casino had banks of them, but they didn't last long. Monopoly had several different versions. I don't know which company did them.
A table game version has my interest.

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Thinking about it. Do you think this is a safe place for an active table game AP to go?
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I've been attending G2E on and off since the '90s. I know many other Advantage players who have attended regularly as well.

I haven't heard of anything negative ever happening due to an AP attending G2E. Of course, I have never used my real name, and I have always made a fake company name and title. President/CEO of an independent Casino marketing agency or something like that.

I think the benefits greatly outweigh the possible risk.

I highly encourage any Advantage Player to attend G2E whenever possible. There's so much AP information one can obtain by attending G2E. You can get information on new games (Both slots and tables, even stuff you have never heard of) that are highly exploitable, including but not limited to the when and where those games will be placed at.

Now you can use whatever information you were able to gather, go home and come up with the strategy, and have time to plan your attack and be the first on the scene.

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Thinking about it. Do you think this is a safe place for an active table game AP to go?
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I've been attending G2E on and off since the '90s. I know many other Advantage players who have attended regularly as well.

I haven't heard of anything negative ever happening due to an AP attending G2E. Of course, I have never used my real name, and I have always made a fake company name and title. President/CEO of an independent Casino marketing agency or something like that.

I think the benefits greatly outweigh the possible risk.

It was at G2E that I saw a WMS video poker game that was very exploitable. I just waited and watched until it was released. I wasn't smart enough at the time to do the math but it turns out the payback was close to105%. It was only in the casinos for a month or two before it was yanked.

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Thinking about it. Do you think this is a safe place for an active table game AP to go?
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I've been attending G2E on and off since the '90s. I know many other Advantage players who have attended regularly as well.

I haven't heard of anything negative ever happening due to an AP attending G2E. Of course, I have never used my real name, and I have always made a fake company name and title. President/CEO of an independent Casino marketing agency or something like that.

I think the benefits greatly outweigh the possible risk.

It was at G2E that I saw a WMS video poker game that was very exploitable. I just waited and watched until it was released. I wasn't smart enough at the time to do the math but it turns out the payback was close to105%. It was only in the casinos for a month or two before it was yanked.
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I played it for a short time at the Stardust, but it didn't last long, just a few days. It wasn't something I saw at the gaming show, it was just something I scouted in a place I frequented.

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Thinking about it. Do you think this is a safe place for an active table game AP to go?
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I've been attending G2E on and off since the '90s. I know many other Advantage players who have attended regularly as well.

I haven't heard of anything negative ever happening due to an AP attending G2E. Of course, I have never used my real name, and I have always made a fake company name and title. President/CEO of an independent Casino marketing agency or something like that.

I think the benefits greatly outweigh the possible risk.

I highly encourage any Advantage Player to attend G2E whenever possible. There's so much AP information one can obtain by attending G2E. You can get information on new games (Both slots and tables, even stuff you have never heard of) that are highly exploitable, including but not limited to the when and where those games will be placed at.

Now you can use whatever information you were able to gather, go home and come up with the strategy, and have time to plan your attack and be the first on the scene.
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Thanks, good information. I'm set up pretty well with software engines where I can solve a table game bet in a day or less usually, but placement information would be awesome! Finding and getting to the games is more of a challenge.

There's also a repeating pattern I notice, where a game is released, then in a couple of weeks or months they have to modify a rule or procedure, and you know why. I usually miss out on that kind of opportunity, being just a monkey with no information besides what I can see for myself on the casino floor.

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Thinking about it. Do you think this is a safe place for an active table game AP to go?
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I've been attending G2E on and off since the '90s. I know many other Advantage players who have attended regularly as well.

I haven't heard of anything negative ever happening due to an AP attending G2E. Of course, I have never used my real name, and I have always made a fake company name and title. President/CEO of an independent Casino marketing agency or something like that.

I think the benefits greatly outweigh the possible risk.

I highly encourage any Advantage Player to attend G2E whenever possible. There's so much AP information one can obtain by attending G2E. You can get information on new games (Both slots and tables, even stuff you have never heard of) that are highly exploitable, including but not limited to the when and where those games will be placed at.

Now you can use whatever information you were able to gather, go home and come up with the strategy, and have time to plan your attack and be the first on the scene.
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Thanks, good information. I'm set up pretty well with software engines where I can solve a table game bet in a day or less usually, but placement information would be awesome! Finding and getting to the games is more of a challenge.

There's also a repeating pattern I notice, where a game is released, then in a couple of weeks or months they have to modify a rule or procedure, and you know why. I usually miss out on that kind of opportunity, being just a monkey with no information besides what I can see for myself on the casino floor.
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This is where a network of monkeys and other forest dwellers would be useful…

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There's also a repeating pattern I notice, where a game is released, then in a couple of weeks or months they have to modify a rule or procedure, and you know why.

I have a few stories about that type of stuff found directly from G2E.

Don't limit yourself to just table games; there's so much to explore, and you never know what you might find.
I missed a few gaming shows, especially in the early days, which cost me valuable time and information.

It's nice to be able to test out games and get more detailed information.



Don't be afraid to ask for detailed information. You'll notice the operator's eyes straight for your ID tag, they really don't care what your name is, they want to know what your position is and if you have the ability to purchase or suggest the purchase of their product. Some of the guys don't want to waste their time on some slub. So you might want to put some extra thought into whatever position/ company you want to portray. You might also want to learn the lingo and questions someone in that position would ask and have a reason for it.

Obviously, don't make it obvious that you're fishing for information in order to take advantage of the game. I've had a few guys raise their eyebrows.

During the sign-up process, there's a long list of interest checkboxes, so get a spam email and check off all the boxes it might lead to information and new products via email.

They usually provide bags for all the swag and information booklets. I suggest bringing an over-the-shoulder laptop bag or something similar. It's no fun hand-carrying around a bag in your hand all day.

Be prepared to spend the entire day there.

If you want to spend the extra time and money, you can attend one of the game protection seminars and use that information for your own benefit.

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Be prepared to spend the entire day there.
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Actually, all three days!

The expo hours are Tuesday & Wednesday, 10-5 and Thursday 10-3.

The link I provided can get you a free pass to the expo or pay for the extras.

The extras are educational sessions that you’re supposed to pay for. They happen Monday as well.

Oddly, there’s tight entry security for the expo. Not so much for the education. (I’ve noticed that same security pattern at conventions for other industries, too.)

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Be prepared to spend the entire day there.
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Actually, all three days!

The expo hours are Tuesday & Wednesday, 10-5 and Thursday 10-3.

The link I provided can get you a free pass to the expo or pay for the extras.

The extras are educational sessions that you’re supposed to pay for. They happen Monday as well.

Oddly, there’s tight entry security for the expo. Not so much for the education. (I’ve noticed that same security pattern at conventions for other industries, too.)
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I can safely assume most Advantage players are not going to spend 3 days there.

I can't recall if security matched your ID tag with your ID upon entry? I think that would be an important detail for AutomaticMonkey. It was a moot point for me since I matched my ID tag with a fake ID.

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Be prepared to spend the entire day there.
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Actually, all three days!

The expo hours are Tuesday & Wednesday, 10-5 and Thursday 10-3.

The link I provided can get you a free pass to the expo or pay for the extras.

The extras are educational sessions that you’re supposed to pay for. They happen Monday as well.

Oddly, there’s tight entry security for the expo. Not so much for the education. (I’ve noticed that same security pattern at conventions for other industries, too.)
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I can safely assume most Advantage players are not going to spend 3 days there.

I can't recall if security matched your ID tag with your ID upon entry? I think that would be an important detail for AutomaticMonkey. It was a moot point for me since I matched my ID tag with a fake ID.
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Usually they make you show ID as you come in to pick up your badge. Although, if a company delegation is coming they will sometimes let the first person who shows up pick up the badges for everyone at his company.

Security in an exhibition hall is a big deal. In the one I used to exhibit at regularly in my past life, it was a very high tech one and there was maybe a billion dollars worth of wares spread out and laying on tables, so exhibit thieves were a concern. Also exhibitors would steal from and screw with one another, for corporate espionage and to settle scores. Chinese spies stuffing anything into their pockets that they can, and "suitcasers": people trying to exhibit their own business as attendees rather than buying a booth. And being there was science, we got the homeschoolers, who are very creative and would use conventions as educational field trips. Well-intentioned, but if I wanted to be a grade school science teacher I'd apply for the job, and get benefits and days off.

I don’t think they let the corporate pickup thing happen as described. Maybe for the larger booths.

The registration email says you need ID that matches the sign up name. Here’s a partial screen shot.

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I don’t think they let the corporate pickup thing happen as described. Maybe for the larger booths.

The registration email says you need ID that matches the sign up name. Here’s a partial screen shot.

I think only once did I pick up my own G2E pass. Normally one person in the company would submit a list of all passes needed and that person could pick them all up. That was also true even when we did not have a booth. Obviously, things could have changed but it was that way for 20 years.