mrsuit31
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February 10th, 2019 at 2:48:06 PM permalink
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Dealer gets only 3 sounds good. For an industry with an extreme high failure rate, need to best play to the appeal of the game. Seems like a small detail, but could see it being helpful.

The paytables between will definitely help make it less busy. These two little changes will do wonders for people walking by. The less confusing they think it will be, the more they will give it a shot.



I am definitely adding the language next to the logo on both side. I 100% agree that is the huge selling point for the game and should be front and center for all to see.

I really didn't like how the dueling tables looked after seeing the proof with that change. For this round, I am going to stick with a revised version with a few additional changes, but for the time being will leave each player having their own tables. It may be a little busy, but I personally like it that way (think the layout as a whole looks better). I'll be able to get some feedback from a decent sized group of real players with this layout soon, so will see what those folks say and pick it back up from there.

Appreciate the feedback so far as I am definitely adopting some of these changes you have all proposed!
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February 10th, 2019 at 4:05:20 PM permalink
Quote: SM777

Dealer gets only 3 sounds good. For an industry with an extreme high failure rate, need to best play to the appeal of the game. Seems like a small detail, but could see it being helpful.

The paytables between will definitely help make it less busy. These two little changes will do wonders for people walking by. The less confusing they think it will be, the more they will give it a shot.



It's really a mandatory Pairs plus bet plus a bonus bet.

This game will be added as a variation to 3CP and 4CP and will attract ONLY those players. They will already know the rules to those games and would expect to make a pairs plus bet, ante and a play bet.the bonus game is the new variation but in many jurisdictions there exists the $1 progressive optional as bet. I wouldn't even display the bonus game payouts on the table but on a placard or on the game pole (whatever you call it). Then you can simply adjust the existing 3CP layout which puts the pairs plus results in line section and the game play in another.

If you have to put the bonus bet result in the felt then you I would put it in large print in the middle similar to the LIR pay table on the dollar bet.
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February 10th, 2019 at 5:29:26 PM permalink
Actually, I'm attracted to the Money$uit games because the layouts are so busy. Will others? Time will tell. Like craps, they look a little intimidating but play fun and easy. In fact, my biggest problem playing live would be that the payoff lines won't automatically highlight what I've got like the computer does.

I still enjoy the original "Money$uit" the most but can understand why casinos would prefer Classic and Fury.
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February 10th, 2019 at 11:23:29 PM permalink
I played the demo and definitely think the game is fun and would do very well in the casino, especially if you VERY VERY VERY MUCH COMMUNICATE THE PLAYER GETS 4 CARDS AND DEALER ONLY GETS 3. Most people will not understand the side bet making up for that and I guarantee you'll get a small following that think they have an edge while they play.

My only criticism comes from my own preference... I felt "free-rolled" whenever I got a pair. Knowing the dealer doesn't qualify A LOT more often and knowing I insta lose the side bet, the best I can do is win $100 and the worst I can do is lose $300 (most of the time). If there is any mathematical way to make the side bet pay table "push" on a pair that would be lovely. Probably not, but just a personal preference =D.
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February 11th, 2019 at 5:21:02 AM permalink
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I played the demo and definitely think the game is fun and would do very well in the casino, especially if you VERY VERY VERY MUCH COMMUNICATE THE PLAYER GETS 4 CARDS AND DEALER ONLY GETS 3. Most people will not understand the side bet making up for that and I guarantee you'll get a small following that think they have an edge while they play.

My only criticism comes from my own preference... I felt "free-rolled" whenever I got a pair. Knowing the dealer doesn't qualify A LOT more often and knowing I insta lose the side bet, the best I can do is win $100 and the worst I can do is lose $300 (most of the time). If there is any mathematical way to make the side bet pay table "push" on a pair that would be lovely. Probably not, but just a personal preference =D.



Thank you Romes!

There is no way to push the pair unfortunately. The edge in the 4th card is to massive. Like B said above, it really is a forced pairs plus, which I donít see getting to much pushback (that is just my hopeful opinion of course, but seems to be carrying through as of now).

I will post the new layout once I get to the office. The Player 4 card vs Dealer 3 is now front and center for all to see. Iíve also decluttered the player space a bit.
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February 11th, 2019 at 6:07:16 AM permalink
Ok, so here is the revamped player space and full layout. For now, this is the final version. You will see that I have taken into account a lot of the feedback provided in order to make the layout more visually appealing while serving its purpose.



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February 11th, 2019 at 3:00:20 PM permalink
On that 500-1 on a $5 bet, will I get a W2G. If I bet $10 and win at 500-1, will there be 24% withholding for a US resident ?
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February 11th, 2019 at 3:14:12 PM permalink
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On that 500-1 on a $5 bet, will I get a W2G. If I bet $10 and win at 500-1, will there be 24% withholding for a US resident ?



Yes to question number 1 because itís larger than 300-1, no to question number to because the win does not exceed $5000.

I see what you did there ;)

(I hope my answer is correct)
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February 11th, 2019 at 3:45:39 PM permalink
The 5k or more wording is specific for poker tournaments only To quote IRS "

Effective for taxable years beginning after December 31, 2017, the withholding rate under Section 3402(q) applicable to winnings of $5,000 or more " Hope I am right. Did NOT see what you did
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February 11th, 2019 at 8:33:09 PM permalink
The layout needs to mention the differing ante win / push circumstance.
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