Fixing single-deck blackjack
July 17th, 2013 at 1:30:47 PM
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From the 21+3 Ruins Blackjack thread
So is there a market for a less-draconian measure that would increase the house hold without resorting to 6:5 BJ?
Let me ask it another way. I get the sense that there is still a large market that prefers single-deck pitch games, regardless of whether they're hand-shuffled or machine-shuffled. Let's assume that the days of 3:2 single-deck BJ with liberal rules and a 0.3% edge are over. If you wanted to play single-deck BJ, would you rather play at a 6:5 table or a 3:2 table with a different rule change that led to a larger house edge (maybe not as large as the +1.4% from 6:5, but still larger)?
According to the WoO BJ calculator, 6:5 single-deck BJ with optimally liberal rules has an edge of 1.17%, and with more typical rules would be over 1.3%. That's huge, especially compared to a typical 6- or 8-deck 3:2 game. I presume that players would play a single-deck 3:2 BJ game with S17, DOA, DAS, LSR, RSP=4, RSA if it had another way of pushing the edge toward the house, because they play 6:5 BJ now. The real question is whether a casino operator would offer a single deck game with those liberal rules, plus one more that pushes the house edge to between 0.4% and 0.9%. Is somewhere in that range too low now that operators are used to the >1.3% edge from single-deck 6:5 games?
Quote: tringlomaneAnd Paradigm is right, biased opinion or not, bets like this help casinos be satisfied with their hold without resorting to draconian measures like 6:5 BJ.
So is there a market for a less-draconian measure that would increase the house hold without resorting to 6:5 BJ?
Let me ask it another way. I get the sense that there is still a large market that prefers single-deck pitch games, regardless of whether they're hand-shuffled or machine-shuffled. Let's assume that the days of 3:2 single-deck BJ with liberal rules and a 0.3% edge are over. If you wanted to play single-deck BJ, would you rather play at a 6:5 table or a 3:2 table with a different rule change that led to a larger house edge (maybe not as large as the +1.4% from 6:5, but still larger)?
According to the WoO BJ calculator, 6:5 single-deck BJ with optimally liberal rules has an edge of 1.17%, and with more typical rules would be over 1.3%. That's huge, especially compared to a typical 6- or 8-deck 3:2 game. I presume that players would play a single-deck 3:2 BJ game with S17, DOA, DAS, LSR, RSP=4, RSA if it had another way of pushing the edge toward the house, because they play 6:5 BJ now. The real question is whether a casino operator would offer a single deck game with those liberal rules, plus one more that pushes the house edge to between 0.4% and 0.9%. Is somewhere in that range too low now that operators are used to the >1.3% edge from single-deck 6:5 games?
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July 17th, 2013 at 1:52:51 PM
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I wouldn't doubt that the casinos would be hesitant to give up the 6:5 casino cash cow. Was there ever a phase where it was a lot of 3:2 H17? Although it looks like that rule isn't that liberal enough to counter the rules you listed.
7:5 BJ from the wizard's rule list looks to be one of the more moderate house adjustments. Vegas greed just made them skip that step though I suppose.
7:5 BJ from the wizard's rule list looks to be one of the more moderate house adjustments. Vegas greed just made them skip that step though I suppose.
July 17th, 2013 at 3:40:16 PM
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The casinos offer it because people play it. It's just that simple. Hell, some casino even offer 6/5 on multideck games. And restrict doubling. They pay no royalty for the game too.
It ain't going away. It is the fastest growing segment of table games.
Notice that on lots of penny slots you must bet 25 or 30 cents to initiate the bonus now ? And the average bet on penny slots now exceeds 75 cents.
It ain't going away. It is the fastest growing segment of table games.
Notice that on lots of penny slots you must bet 25 or 30 cents to initiate the bonus now ? And the average bet on penny slots now exceeds 75 cents.
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