What's the worst game that has made it?

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Caribbean Stud has to be near the top of the list. The house edge is over 5%, and not only must the stars align for you to be dealt a winning hand, but the planets must align too in order to get paid for it. It's sick that the most likely outcome when you are dealt a royal flush is to win even money on your Ante and have your Play bet push. Maybe the royal flush you get after another 650,000 hands will be up against a qualifying dealer hand...

It makes you want to play the progressive even more. I almost had a heart attack trying this game out. I didn't bet the progressive because it was the worst meter I ever saw to this day ($30k). Second hand I got a flush with 4 to a Royal. Dealer didn't qualify obviously.

Also tried "Caribbean Draw too", dealt 3 5's, drew the 4th 5 which would have paid 20 to 1. Of course the dealer didn't qualify. This version of the game, the dealer failed to qualify so much, optimal strategy was to raise blind...Christ.

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Faro was played throughout the American West and yet it totally disappeared.

It had, for many bets, a house edge of essentially Zero. Gambling halls stopped offering it as it had no table hold. Blackjack came in as the main card game, and at the same time, craps was replacing hazard as the main dice game.

Don't forget the question. What's the worst game that has made it? So its games that are out there that you could say "made" it...so lets quantify "made" it

100 plus table installs seems fair. Top of the list for me is 3CP, many more installs and a dreadful game, nothing more than a scratch card game. "look at my cards, did I win?" Scratchcard in all but name.

Quote: Paigowdan

It had, for many bets, a house edge of essentially Zero. Gambling halls stopped offering it as it had no table hold.

Precisely. No game designer of today would "push" for such a game. Yet clearly Faro had "made it" all over the American West.
So a game with zero house edge would be very hard to hawk to a casino now, but it shows that things change, that no matter how bad something can be in actuality, it will be viewed as good at some time. So game developers: Cheer Up!!! If really and truly bad games can gain market share, anything can!!


Look at NYC in the Sixties/Seventies:
Amongst Blacks, clearly Blackjack reigned supreme. A party meant everyone shows up with a broad, some booze and a deck of cards.

Oh sure, if you went out to some club where co-eds from the top Eastern schools might be hanging out, you played this game that Iranians were bringing to NYC: because it was a bit exotic and was very popular in the Seven Sister's dormitories, but just as you had an expensive dark green hip flask in your pocket, you had a deck of cards with you for blackjack!

And heck yeah, if you were going down to "The Village" you had to be prepared to play chess and drink coffee, but in general and all over town: the name of the game was Blackjack. You might leave the flask home sometime, but you never left home without a deck of cards. Blackjack was all over town and a posh casino in Murray Hill was often your goal, though you might have to settle for some less posh places around town, but the game was still blackjack all night long. Wherever you went, no matter who you met: the game was blackjack!!

Now... sure its played and people in general know about blackjack, but there is no longer the widespread and socially expected blackjack craze in NYC.

Quote: Paigowdan

It had, for many bets, a house edge of essentially Zero. Gambling halls stopped offering it as it had no table hold. Blackjack came in as the main card game, and at the same time, craps was replacing hazard as the main dice game.

House can still win on a Zero edge game, by using maximums

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House can still win on a Zero edge game, by using maximums

Not true. The house can not make a long term profit on zero edge games. By the very definition of the term zero edge. I have also done long simulations of millions of players with small bankrolls and max bets. House edge is still zero.

If 3cp is just a scratch ticket, then let's lump in Punto Banco. Granted, baccarat has a lower house edge, but there is zero strategy, which is even less strategy than 3cp.

It's tough for me to understand your hate for 3cp when you're favorite game is Punto Banco.

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If 3cp is just a scratch ticket, then let's lump in Punto Banco. Granted, baccarat has a lower house edge, but there is zero strategy, which is even less strategy than 3cp.

It's tough for me to understand your hate for 3cp when you're favorite game is Punto Banco.

Clearly you have never dealt Punto which explains your lack of understanding, I mean it is sacrilege to even put them the games together in the same sentence. 3cp is a success, no getting away from it, my evaluation of the game is both professionally and from a players point of view. I think to use the word Strategy when referring to 3cp is stretching the word a bit. Play on Q,6, 4 or higher, fold if lower, is that a strategy? Or put another $5 on the raise, if the dealer doesn't qualify, you win the $5 you just put down! The game might be improved by forgoing the dealers hand and just deal 3 cards to the player and play against a pay table.

3CP
Players view: Forget playing the ante and having to raise when you have poor hand just for a standoff, a negative bet. As a player, play pair +, don't look at your cards to create a bit of suspense, even money for a pair? I would rather stick needles in my eyes than play 3cp, too boring.
Dealer's view: slow and painful game to deal, shuffle every hand, nothing of significance ever happens, one hand at a time, not the finest game to deal, perhaps wheel of fortune is worst, I don't know because I have never dealt it.

Punto Banco (not 2000 which was pants)
Players view: the bias giving the bank the edge creates a conflict, you know the bank is more likely to come in, generally play for double banks is the norm. Throwing in the tax is a rewarding experience because you have won. After 4 cards both hands are equal in chance, then the tableau (which is a work of art) edges the game ever so slightly in the banks favour. Cards are pulled one at a time creating suspense, and if the bank has to draw a third card, no matter his total, it can always be egalité.
Dealer's view: Excellent to deal as the tableau keeps you active and if there is a big game and lots of bets, the action is simply unrivaled, improves the croupiers chip handling and dexterity. A sense of strategy is created by the method the players tend to bet, although this is a game of chance and random, watching the surge of bets after a single banco win for the Double Bank is thrilling.

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3. I would have LOVED to have been in on the pitch meeting for the sale of the game to SHFL. Casino War....it's cool, crisp....refreshing! So easy, a tourist can play it!! Now THAT gives a sale, to quote - "so easy a tourist can play it." $$$..

Gotta wonder if the fact that it was in Vegas Vacation helped, or not. Or if it was even mentioned!

I don't know, I still have yet to see, "Guess What Number?"

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