Dealer First Blackjack
Quote: SwitchFurthermore, a slight change in wording can have a dramatic effect:-
"That casino game is bollocks" - means that the game is awful.
"That casino game is the dog's bollocks" - means that the game is great.
Don't ask me where the dog reference came from - just shows that we have some strange idioms as well :-)
Or as they are frequently heard saying in UK casinos
"How ya doing? Doing me bollocks" meaning losing ones money
Quote: SwitchThe only way you can offer the 'Switch' is to offset with a rule like 'Push 22'. If you eliminate that rule then players will enjoy a house edge over 6% so you would have to find other ways of clawing it back:-
Whatever happens, you have to retain around 7% back so ther are no 'nice' ways to do this. Some players dislike the 'Push 22' but there are a lot of players that will accept it in return for the good part of the game.
You can try pushing on lower totals i.e. 14, 15 etc but these will come up a lot more than the 'Push 22' and you will need more occasions for the 'Push' to come up as pushing on 14 is not as strong as pushing on a 'bust' hand. So, the player is exposed to more pushed hands this way.
You could take ties on some hand totals - Nah...that ain't going to work
You could introduce a mandatory sidebet with a high house edge - Hmm, not sure more mandatory bets would work
You could introduce an 'ante' or 'switch' payment - commission, Can't you charge them to Switch?
As I suspected, too much for the edge to claw back without butchering the game.
Quote: McDemonFor now!! Couldn't resist that. Note they are British, What is it about us Brits!
Make that 3 individuals......not sure why I forgot about Webb, my apologies to him. The third is a "Yank" by the way :-)
Do you already have the math done for this game? What's the basic strategy?
Quote: ParadigmSwitch is being too modest here. With the success of Switch and the momentum of a follow up game like Free Bet, his games hav re-defined the BJ variant market. I predict Free Bet will end up with more installs than BJ Switch.....so we are talking about an individual with multiple game creations each with over a 100 live table installations. I only know of one other individual with those credentials!
Trying to guess who that other individual is. Does he also run an evil empire in his spare time ? ? ?
Quote: mipletAre there any other games where the dealer goes first? I know "7-14-21" v3 does.
Do you already have the math done for this game? What's the basic strategy?
Dealer Bluff requires software to know the dealer's hand without the physical dealer knowing the hand. I think 7-14-21 the dealer sets the hand after players have set their hand.
For the basic strategy question:
If dealer does not hit:
Hit <18
If dealer takes first hit, but does not bust:
Hit card of 6-A, Player Hits <17 (double 10,11)
Hit card of 5, Player Hits <16 (double 10,11)
Hit card of 4, Player Hits <15 (double 9,10,11)
Hit card of 2,3, Player Hits <13 (double 9,10,11)
If dealer does bust on first hit:
Hard 13-21 stays
Soft 12-16, double
Hard 8-12 double
<8 Hit
A friend of mine had a working simulator which he modified to deal the game and test the results.
Running simulations of 100,000 hands and employing the basic strategy above, it is about 2% (with 3:2 Bonus) Adding in split strategy and correcting any strategy errors it should be around 1.25%.
Quote: ParadigmMake that 3 individuals......not sure why I forgot about Webb, my apologies to him. The third is a "Yank" by the way :-)
Hi Paradigm,
You forgot me (Mr CasinoGames®) the only individual with 100+ Casino Games
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Quote: MrCasinoGamesHi Paradigm,
You forgot me (Mr CasinoGames®) the only individual with 100+ Casino Games
My Game Casino Holdem®. Play Demo (First Texas Hold'em Against the Casino ©2000) is not play in the US yet.
It has over 100+ tables and it is Played Live in:
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Available in 1,000+ On-line Casinos Using:
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What casino in the UK has casino hold'em Stephen?
Quote: MrCasinoGamesHi Paradigm,
You forgot me (Mr CasinoGames®) the only individual with 100+ Casino Games
I think they were talking about the relatively small number of individual inventors that have multiple products with 100+ installs. Do you have two or more games with over 100 installs each?
There are a lot more individuals that have hit the 100+ threshhold with a single product. I was one of them, briefly. You're one, Dan has about 100 of EZPG, Perri Stasi had more than 100 Fire Bet placements before he sold to SHFL, etc. But having two or more successful games like that is exceptionally rare.
Quote: McDemon
Hi McDemon,
What casino in the UK has casino hold'em Stephen?
It was in: Luton, Coventry, Stockton, Brighton and Walsal.
As you know it is hard for a Hold'em Poker table game in the UK, so Now it is just in Brighton & Walsall.
Quote: MrCasinoGamesHi Paradigm,
You forgot me (Mr CasinoGames®) the only individual with 100+ Casino Games
Hi Stephen, my apologies for leaving you off a list.....I was referring to live games only. I knew your games are very big online. I didn't realize that you had two games with 100+ live table installs.
Quote: McDemonI think whilst getting 100+ tables is great, for me that would be a modest success, 500+ and we're talking. Although the way the market is going, online is the future, live gaming will probably slowly diminish, I can see why you are good on the digital. I remember a report about a year ago from Google, stating by 2016 80% of internet users will be accessing via mobile devices, so live gaming, although my favourite, will be increasingly difficult to get into casinos because there will be even less floor space available. Tell me I am being too negative!
Live gaming will never die.
100 table installs means you have arrived. You can live on this, especially if you had directly leased the game not through a distributor.
500 means the elite club. You get a star on the Hollywood walk of fame. We can't have an equivalent walk of fame here on Las Vegas Boulevard, because it would just be Derek Webb, Roger Snow, and Geoff Hall. Let's see how EZ Pai Gow does in the next few years, along with Lucky Win Baccarat, and Pai Gow-8. I'm actually more proud of the two games-in-waiting.
Quote: MathExtremistQuote: MrCasinoGamesHi Paradigm,
You forgot me (Mr CasinoGames®) the only individual with 100+ Casino Games.
I think they were talking about the relatively small number of individual inventors that have multiple products with 100+ installs. Do you have two or more games with over 100 installs each?
There are a lot more individuals that have hit the 100+ threshhold with a single product. I was one of them, briefly. You're one, Dan has about 100 of EZPG, Perri Stasi had more than 100 Fire Bet placements before he sold to SHFL, etc. But having two or more successful games like that is exceptionally rare.
Hi MathExtremist,
I agree with you, there are a lot more individuals that have hit the 100+ threshhold and having two or more successful games is exceptionally rare.
Below are some of my successful games sofar.
My Roulette Link-Bets® has got 100+ tables., Play in UK.
Roulette Link-Bets®: A simple amendment to the conventional Roulette layout to allow split and corner bets across numbers in the first and third columns, which would otherwise not be possible because they are not adjacent.
My Caribbean Hold'em™ / Play Caribbean Hold'em™ for Free Play On-line in 100+ Online-Casinos.
(By the way I was the first to link Caribbean-Stud Progressive with Hold'em Poker games, based on the first 5-cards dealt and was use in Russia in 2003).
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My other games each has about 10 tables: Block Pro® Blackjack Progressive / Lucky Draw Baccarat®.
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My Caribbean Hold'em™ / Play Caribbean Hold'em™ for Free Play On-line in 100+ Online-Casinos (By the way I was the first to link Caribbean-Stud with Hold'em Poker games, based on the first 5-cards deal).
Well done Stephen, Are you using a distributor or direct? I know the distributor route means very low re-licence fees.
Quote: PaigowdanLive gaming will never die.
100 table installs means you have arrived. You can live on this, especially if you had directly leased the game not through a distributor.
500 means the elite club. You get a star on the Hollywood walk of fame. We can't have an equivalent walk of fame here on Las Vegas Boulevard, because it would just be Derek Webb, Roger Snow, and Geoff Hall. Let's see how EZ Pai Gow does in the next few years, along with Lucky Win Baccarat, and Pai Gow-8. I'm actually more proud of the two games-in-waiting.
I never said they would die, just diminish, the growth area has to be online, has to be. I am old school, when table gaming was the pinnacle, now, sadly its losing its once great status, there will always be some form of table gaming ( I think there is a market in just table gaming) but its best days are behind now.
Quote: McDemonQuote: MrCasinoGames
My Caribbean Hold'em™ / Play Caribbean Hold'em™ for Free Play On-line in 100+ Online-Casinos (By the way I was the first to link Caribbean-Stud with Hold'em Poker games, based on the first 5-cards deal).
Well done Stephen, Are you using a distributor or direct? I know the distributor route means very low re-licence fees.
Hi McDemon,
I go direct with the software developers. It is very hard work.
They only go with table games that are already successful.
Quote: McDemonRight so you are convincing them to do it, not paying directly to develop the software?
Yes, That is right. They make the RNG (software) for the game.
I just license them my game.
Quote: McDemonQuote: PaigowdanLive gaming will never die.
I never said they would die, just diminish, the growth area has to be online, has to be. I am old school, when table gaming was the pinnacle, now, sadly its losing its once great status, there will always be some form of table gaming ( I think there is a market in just table gaming) but its best days are behind now.
Yes, I fear this is true. Online and app gaming will grow something huge; while it will not kill table games (indeed, it might feed it a little bit), it'll be the big arena. Our games will be there online and in apps, and while satisfying and lucrative, nothing compares to live action: real cards, chips, and dice. There will be a lot of people who'll be like fish out of water at a table game very soon, I fear.
We'll be telling our grand kids about real table game action, along with whitewall tires and 8-track tapes...."Grandpa, what was gasoline? And dice?....and pay phones..." The 20th century will look medieval. At 52, I'm a geezer......
Quote: PaigowdanLet's see how EZ Pai Gow does in the next few years, along with Lucky Win Baccarat, and Pai Gow-8. I'm actually more proud of the two games-in-waiting.
Hi Dan,
How is Lucky Win Baccarat and GALAXY GAMING's Blackjack-Bust Bonus doing in the UK?
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If you don't mind sharing, what is a typical agreement with online casinos? Do 50 online tables generate the revenue of one live install?
Quote: MrCasinoGamesQuote: PaigowdanLet's see how EZ Pai Gow does in the next few years, along with Lucky Win Baccarat, and Pai Gow-8. I'm actually more proud of the two games-in-waiting.
Hi Dan,
How is Lucky Win Baccarat and GALAXY GAMING's Blackjack-Bust Bonus doing in the UK?
Lucky Win Baccarat was installed at one casino in the London area and did very well, replacing the Lucky-8 Baccarat, but the casino was forced to close by their gaming authority for some reason. (#@%$ !!) A heart break. It'll be re-introduced here, and has been stepped up recently; previously, we focused on launching High Card Flush, which worked out very nicely - a great start for that fine game. I don't know how Bust Bonus is doing there, (I can find out), but Bust Bonus is doing well in the South West U.S. here. People LIKE being able to bet late for a dealer's bust.
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If you don't mind sharing, what is a typical agreement with online casinos? Do 50 online tables generate the revenue of one live install?
Hi 21Revolution,
what is a typical agreement with online casinos?
a typical agreement with online casinos for me is % on the game-win%.
in the online casinos there is no online tables. in online casinos there is no limit to how many tables or players.
The revenue generate depends on how busy the casino is.
if it is one of the big names. For example: 888.com, William Hill, Paddy Power, Bet365, Casino.com, Sporting Bet, Betfair, Betfred, Unibet, Bodog, Bovada...
you will get more revenues then small online casinos.
Quote: PaigowdanQuote: MrCasinoGamesQuote: PaigowdanLet's see how EZ Pai Gow does in the next few years, along with Lucky Win Baccarat, and Pai Gow-8. I'm actually more proud of the two games-in-waiting.
Hi Dan,
How is Lucky Win Baccarat and GALAXY GAMING's Blackjack-Bust Bonus doing in the UK?
Lucky Win Baccarat was installed at one casino in the London area and did very well, replacing the Lucky-8 Baccarat, but the casino was forced to close by their gaming authority for some reason. (#@%$ !!) A heart break. It'll be re-introduced here, and has been stepped up recently; previously, we focused on launching High Card Flush, which worked out very nicely - a great start for that fine game. I don't know how Bust Bonus is doing there, (I can find out), but Bust Bonus is doing well in the South West U.S. here. People LIKE being able to bet late for a dealer's bust.
You mean ALEA CASINO?
It is very hard to get a new game in to the UK casinos and stay in the casinos for long.
Lucky Win Player Wager = 10.01%
Lucky Win Banker Wager = 8.27%
Dan, Are you serious? can't see this being successful, ouch
Quote: McDemonJust seen the edge for Lucky win Baccarat,
Lucky Win Player Wager = 10.01%
Lucky Win Banker Wager = 8.27%
Dan, Are you serious? can't see this being successful, ouch
Actually very mild, considering the high tops of the pay tables (30:1, 500:1), and with a high hit frequency.
Side bets like Lucky Ladies come in at 24%, and are very popular- hugely successful, actually . This is way less than that, though it isn't the 0.01%.
What other Baccarat side bet can pay 500:1 right off the felt, - and also have a progressive?
These side bets were designed to play well, offer "Baccarat-on-Baccarat" play, and to be un AP-able. The game plays really well, and these are the criteria that casino operators demand. It's actually a fine balance.
I wouldn't attempt to sell an even-money bet with a 10% edge, but one that pays at 10-1 or better should have no problem.
Quote: McDemonCan't be that high at those edges, I accept that there are numptie punters that clearly have an aversion to money but it will kill the sidebet long term...inevitable
This hasn't been the case for the Dragon-7 and Panda-8 - and many other side bets of even greater house edge. If they haven't died, - and they haven't - then this is in the same boat, no different.
Believe me, I would love nothing more than to provide a 0% edge, or even a player positive edge +EV on games, - if such a thing were possible and feasible.
For high payout side bets (10:1 and greater), HE's have to be higher - as the payouts are higher.
Games are designed by game designers who have to consider both player and casino operator.
If we listened to only casino bosses on everything, House edges would be too high, - and there'd be no players.
If we listened to only players on everything, House edges would not exist - and with would casinos or gambling halls.
There is a "graduated scale" of house edges that is calibrated to the dynamics of the bet offered.
Flat bets - 0.5% to 3%
Pay table bets on uncountable single deck-single deal games = ~7%
Pay table bets on countable games = ~10% (up to 24% on Lucky Ladies. Keep in mind that Baccarat's eight-deck shoe is dealt out to the very end of the shoe.)
Progressive Jackpots - up to 25% house edge,
etc., etc., etc.
Quote: SwitchThe only way you can offer the 'Switch' is to offset with a rule like 'Push 22'. If you eliminate that rule then players will enjoy a house edge over 6% so you would have to find other ways of clawing it back:-
You could take ties on some hand totals
You could introduce a mandatory sidebet with a high house edge
You could introduce an 'ante' or 'switch' payment
Whatever happens, you have to retain around 7% back so ther are no 'nice' ways to do this. Some players dislike the 'Push 22' but there are a lot of players that will accept it in return for the good part of the game.
You can try pushing on lower totals i.e. 14, 15 etc but these will come up a lot more than the 'Push 22' and you will need more occasions for the 'Push' to come up as pushing on 14 is not as strong as pushing on a 'bust' hand. So, the player is exposed to more pushed hands this way.
Although I have no qualms with "Push 22", I personally think the mandatory side bet would be the next best option. It works really well with UTH, imo. It would help create a version of blackjack with gameplay twists and higher variance (which many players already voluntarily create for themselves by choosing to place sidebets). And as Math Extremist points out, the typical gambler often doesn't care about the "house edge" on bets with varying levels of payouts/high payouts for rare events.
Quote: McDemonMaybe there are more suckers out there than I thought!
I think so. At least in the US anyway. We're pretty stupid sometimes. ;)
Quote: tringlomaneI think so. At least in the US anyway. We're pretty stupid sometimes. ;)
I glad you said that, I have seen some real thickos in casinos over the years, but my God, you would have to be off your head to bet on some the side bets I am hearing about that are apparently popular. I shit you not, its a real eye opener for me!
Quote: McDemonFor now!! Couldn't resist that. Note they are British, What is it about us Brits!
"Oh you English are so superior aren't you? Well, would you like to know where you'd be without us, the good old U.S. of A. to protect you? I'll tell you. The smallest f****** province in the Russian Empire, that's where! If it wasn't for us, you'd all be speaking German, singing, "Deutschland, Deutschland über alles!"
--A Fish Called Wanda
Quote: Pacman"Oh you English are so superior aren't you? Well, would you like to know where you'd be without us, the good old U.S. of A. to protect you? I'll tell you. The smallest f****** province in the Russian Empire, that's where! If it wasn't for us, you'd all be speaking German, singing, "Deutschland, Deutschland über alles!"
--A Fish Called Wanda
Facts don't lie in terms of music, games, literature, empire, but I do accept you helped out a bit during the war. Hitler lost the war fighting the Russians, not the US though, you guys had your own battles with the Japanese. Lets not get too nationalistic, it was only said in jest!
Quote: McDemonFacts don't lie in terms of music, games, literature, empire, but I do accept you helped out a bit during the war. Hitler lost the war fighting the Russians, not the US though, you guys had your own battles with the Japanese. Lets not get too nationalistic, it was only said in jest!
"You English, you think you're so superior, don't you? Well, you're the filth of the planet. A bunch of pompous, badly dressed, poverty-stricken, sexually repressed football hooligans."
--A Fish Called Wanda
;-)
Quote: Pacman"You English, you think you're so superior, don't you? Well, you're the filth of the planet. A bunch of pompous, badly dressed, poverty-stricken, sexually repressed football hooligans."
--A Fish Called Wanda
;-)
" You can always tell an Englishman, you just can't tell him much! "
--All the ancestors on my mother's side.
To belong to other nations,
He remains an Englishman!
He remains an Englishman!
--Gilbert & Sullivan
"There is a forgotten, nay almost forbidden word, which means more to me than any other. That word is England".
Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)
THE BAD :-
"The scum of the earth. The mere scum of the earth". (Describing his own army in the nineteenth century).
The Duke of Wellington (1769-1852)
& THE UGLY :-
"Someone shouted that we were all English. Why are we running? The English don't run. And so it went on. Having fled in panic, some of the supporters would then remember that they were English and this was important, and they would remind the others that they too were English, and this was important, and with renewed sense of national identity, they would come abruptly to a halt, turn around, and charge the Italian police".
Bill Burford - (Sardinia 1990 - football pitched battle)
:-)
--Love Actually
Quote: Pacman"We may be a small country, but we're a great one, too. The country of Shakespeare, Churchill, the Beatles, Sean Connery, Harry Potter. David Beckham's right foot. David Beckham's left foot, come to that."
--Love Actually
Greatest Britain...for me Charles Darwin, will be remember long after people forget Churchill
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If you don't mind sharing, what is a typical agreement with online casinos? Do 50 online tables generate the revenue of one live install?
Hi 21Revolution,
what is a typical agreement with online casinos?
a typical agreement with online casinos for me is % on the game-win%.
in the online casinos there is no online tables. in online casinos there is no limit to how many tables or players.
The revenue generate depends on how busy the casino is.
if it is one of the big names. For example: 888.com, William Hill, Paddy Power, Bet365, Casino.com, Sporting Bet, Betfair, Betfred, Unibet, Bodog, Bovada...
you will get more revenues then small online casinos.
So, what would you equate 1000 online casinos to? Is it similar revenue to 100 live table installs?
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If you don't mind sharing, what is a typical agreement with online casinos? Do 50 online tables generate the revenue of one live install?
Hi 21Revolution,
what is a typical agreement with online casinos?
a typical agreement with online casinos for me is % on the game-win%.
in the online casinos there is no online tables. in online casinos there is no limit to how many tables or players.
The revenue generate depends on how busy the casino is.
if it is one of the big names. For example: 888.com, William Hill, Paddy Power, Bet365, Casino.com, Sporting Bet, Betfair, Betfred, Unibet, Bodog, Bovada...
you will get more revenues then small online casinos.
So, what would you equate 1000 online casinos to? Is it similar revenue to 100 live table installs?
For me, I would say similar to 100 to 250 live table revenue.
Quote: McDemonYou could take ties on some hand totals - Nah...that ain't going to work
You could introduce a mandatory sidebet with a high house edge - Hmm, not sure more mandatory bets would work
You could introduce an 'ante' or 'switch' payment - commission, Can't you charge them to Switch?
As I suspected, too much for the edge to claw back without butchering the game.
Looking at the best way to implement a change of rules does not equal butchering a game. It is simply a different game. Switch and Free Bet use a rule that players accept. Again, you are arguing against variations that have had success. All Switch is saying is that he considered other ways to create this style of game, and determined that players would accept a push 22 in exchange for the fun and feature rich version he has created. There really is nothing to argue about here- it is proven that you can create variations like this and there is a market for them.
Just a note- the more players start to recognize the game can be changed, the more it opens up acceptance to all game ideas, including concepts that may not be based on existing games. So, be glad if these games are finding homes and having success. In the end it opens up the door for casinos to try your game.
