Jkelly20201
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June 3rd, 2019 at 3:49:29 PM permalink
I recently got my total rewards card from Cesar’s , I was able to get diamond status in one day . I was mostly playing video poker to get all the tier credits but I also played a small amount of black jack with low betting maybe $15 a hand for 20 minutes .

When I check the app it seems like I can get discounts for like 20% off rooms . My brother who also got diamond a few weeks before did the same thing as me except he didn’t play the 20 minutes of black jack with small betting but we both ended up with the same amount of tier credits . When he goes on his app almost every hotel and room is comped 100% . Is it really possible my small amount of black jack changed the discount I would get on rooms that much? Or does it maybe just take a week or so to update I only got diamond a few days ago.
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June 3rd, 2019 at 4:13:12 PM permalink
I'd guess the 20% offers are standard beginner offers, not based on play. Your real offers haven't shown up yet.
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June 3rd, 2019 at 4:14:30 PM permalink
Your tier level with player cards ensures that you will get certain offers and certain perks.

But ultimately your average bet x number of hours played (including the equivalent in slots) or your loss if you lose and the actual loss exceeds your theoretical loss, determine what you get, along with other factors, if applicable to you, such as the size of your credit line or the amount of front money you buy in for.


How many hours of video poker did you play, at what average bet?

$15 BJ how many hours? Doesn't seem like that would have helped you much at all, so must've been the video poker. What casino?
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June 3rd, 2019 at 4:41:38 PM permalink
It was at planet Hollywood I played video poker for about an hour and 20 minutes i was betting $150 per draw I I was getting 12 tier credits per pull I think and I went as fast as I could to get to 5000 credits but I guess I should have went slower ? The black jack I only played for 20 minutes . My brother did the same thing except he played a bit longer and was betting less on video poker in the beginning but he didn’t play any black jack that was the only difference we were both brand new players .
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June 3rd, 2019 at 4:47:31 PM permalink
It was at planet Hollywood I played video poker for about an hour and 20 minutes i was betting $150 per draw I I was getting 12 tier credits per pull I think and I went as fast as I could to get to 5000 credits but I guess I should have went slower ? The black jack I only played for 20 minutes . My brother did the same thing except he played a bit longer and was betting less on video poker in the beginning but he didn’t play any black jack that was the only difference we were both brand new players .
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June 3rd, 2019 at 4:51:55 PM permalink
Quote: Jkelly20201

It was at planet Hollywood I played video poker for about an hour and 20 minutes i was betting $150 per draw I I was getting 12 tier credits per pull I think and I went as fast as I could to get to 5000 credits but I guess I should have went slower ? The black jack I only played for 20 minutes . My brother did the same thing except he played a bit longer and was betting less on video poker in the beginning but he didn’t play any black jack that was the only difference we were both brand new players .



You played $150/draw and made DIAD in less than 2 hours. Yikes.

You'll be overwhelmed with free room offers in a couple weeks. No problem.

If your offers don't kick in before you want to make plans, just call the property you want to visit, and ask for VIP hosts. They'll set you up.
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June 3rd, 2019 at 5:00:26 PM permalink
Haha alright I hope so , I guess i just figured the ceaser rewards app would update my hotel rates fast but I’ll just wait a few weeks and see . Thanks for your answer btw . It was kind of nerve racking but I actually made $1000 off the video poker lol
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June 3rd, 2019 at 5:31:23 PM permalink
I had an experience like that, in a way. One night when I was winning heavily at single deck BJ, I was jumping between 100 and 3000, and actually winning almost every hand. They tried everything to stop me, changing dealers, shuffling after each deal, changing cards, nothing worked, I just kept winning. The pit boss didn't care he told me flat out that he was going to put me down for 1500 average because sometimes I bet 100 and sometimes 3000 (3000 was the limit at that casino at that time).

After that session the comps starting flooding in and my host told me that that was "monstrous" playing something like 13 hours straight at an average bet of 1500. Of course they expected me to keep up that average, and actually - I did.

In your case too, they will be salivating hoping that you keep up that $150. per spin average. In the meantime, your offers will be based on that expectation. You might get a little "Just keep up that betting like you were doing" nudge from the host at the time you book your next stay, if you book through a host, that is, but I think that at this point anyway, you'll get a better offer from a host than what the computer is about to offer you.
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June 3rd, 2019 at 6:14:02 PM permalink
They'll be licking their chops to get you back with the theo that you're generating on video poker. When the offers star to flood you call for a host and get him to improve on the offer that they sent to you.

If you go again at another casino, get a host before you make your first bet.

P.S. If you apply for a line of credit for five figures or more at any place they'll call you before you can call them.
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June 3rd, 2019 at 6:45:06 PM permalink
I am a credit line player, so I always get with a host before I apply for the line.

But if I were a cash player (not front money wired in or deposited at the cage, I mean just showing up with a wad of cash), I don't think I'd get with a host until after I played. What's a host going to do for you if he doesn't know you, hasn't yet seen any action from you, and you don't even have a credit line or money on deposit?

I suppose if you're coming from a sister property and the new host may look up your prior action, that's something, but if it's a virgin property and I'm not establishing a line or planning on wiring in or depositing front money, I think I'd just show up and play and go from there, such as play while staying at another property.

Maybe that's what you did at P Hollywood? played a session while you were in town at some other non-Caesar's property?
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June 5th, 2019 at 7:35:44 AM permalink
I have done Diamond in a Day for the past 10 years or so. Some times it has taken up to 10 weeks before the good offers started.

One of the factors is how much you played earlier in the year. Caesars monitors 30 day, 90 day, 6 month, and one year ADT. If you had a lot of small play earlier in the year that will hurt you for a while. I try not to play at all at Caesars for 6 months before I renew my Diamond.
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June 5th, 2019 at 7:56:54 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

You played $150/draw and made DIAD in less than 2 hours. Yikes.

You'll be overwhelmed with free room offers in a couple weeks. No problem.



That high roller in the Louis Theroux documentary was betting less than that on slots and they gave him the 15,000 sq/ft suite... haha...
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June 5th, 2019 at 3:17:16 PM permalink
I see that make sense , I think it will changed to comped soon also. Do you know if I would be able to just make a bunch of future hotel reservations for the rest of the year .I would imagine if I do one at a time that after the first time I go if I don’t gamble all my comps will go away .
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June 5th, 2019 at 6:36:28 PM permalink
Each trip affects your offers and status on the next stay. Based on that after all, all you did was play ONE day, I don't think you could get away with say, not playing another dime for a calendar year and enjoying repeated free stays, no matter how you booked it. However, depending on the casino's player rewards program you will get a computer generated free offer for four nights or whatever every quarter, or every other month, but I couldn't say whether these would keep coming in even if you stopped playing. Also, the offers come in every now and then, not all at once - it's not like a year's worth of coupons they hand you up front.

If you play hard enough, you'll continue to get some offers for years, that's the way it worked for me when I stopped playing about a decade ago, for three solid years I was still getting free stay offers, either via computer or via human host, but I think things have changed to where nowadays, if you go and stay even one trip without playing someone will notice it.

Anyway, let us know how it works out. Will be interesting to see how the system may be played.
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June 5th, 2019 at 7:04:12 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

Each trip affects your offers and status on the next stay. Based that after all, all you did was play ONE day, I don't think you could get away with say, not playing another dime for a calendar year and enjoying repeated free stays, no matter how you booked it. However, depending on the casino's player rewards program you will get a computer generated free offer for four nights or whatever every quarter, or every other month, but I couldn't say whether these would keep coming in even if you stopped playing. Also, the offers come in every now and then, not all at once - it's not like a year's worth of coupons they hand you up front.

If you play hard enough, you'll continue to get some offers for years, that's the way it worked for me when I stopped playing about a decade ago, for three solid years I was still getting free stay offers, either via computer or via human host, but I think things have changed to where nowadays, if you go and stay even one trip without playing someone will notice it.

Anyway, let us know how it works out. Will be interesting to see how the system may be played.



My experience with Caesar's is that the offers will continue for about 6 months with very little play.
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June 5th, 2019 at 8:56:08 PM permalink
In his case he played but one day. Not sure if we have precedent for that. Will he keep getting offers, will the computer just keep spitting them out just because he is Diamond and even if he gives them no more action? He will find out soon enough.
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June 7th, 2019 at 10:49:42 AM permalink
I just wrote this
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gaming-business/caesars/31448-cet-tier-matching-mlife-gold-to-diamond/3/#post723002
basically, commenting on how by merely showing my Cosmopolitan Identity platinum card, I automatically become Caesar's Ent. diamond, but also commenting on how if you look over the fine print, it is play / accumulated points that earn the offers not mere tier status.

I am not saying that you don't have good play - $150. a pull is great play - but just saying that whether the offers come in / keep up, would appear to be based on play not only tier status.
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June 7th, 2019 at 11:05:00 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg

I just wrote this
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gaming-business/caesars/31448-cet-tier-matching-mlife-gold-to-diamond/3/#post723002
basically, commenting on how by merely showing my Cosmopolitan Identity platinum card, I automatically become Caesar's Ent. diamond, but also commenting on how if you look over the fine print, it is play / accumulated points that earn the offers not mere tier status.

I am not saying that you don't have good play - $150. a pull is great play - but just saying that whether the offers come in / keep up, would appear to be based on play not only tier status.



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