Vulturing multipliers in Ultimate X

I've made it a habit to scour Ultimate X machines for abandoned multipliers every time I go to a casino with the game. While I don't always profit from these single plays on left over multipliers, over the past 18 months I'm easily in the black. Last night someone was nice enough to leave a 4X 4X 2X on DD Bonus $1 denomination. Caught a flush on my single play on one of the 4X for a very quick $85 profit.

Do I feel guilty about vulturing these multipliers left on Ult X? Not a chance. I would like to thank everyone who is nice enough to leave them out there for people like me. My bankroll thanks you. When you check Ult x machines for abandoned multipliers, remember to look at each hand for each game. If you see what was a winning hand but with no multiplier and 3 hands 10 coins showing, check each of the denominations (25 cent, 50 cent, 1 dollar), its waiting there somewhere for you.

Quote: cpm57

When you check Ult x machines for abandoned multipliers, remember to look at each hand for each game. If you see what was a winning hand but with no multiplier and 3 hands 10 coins showing, check each of the denominations (25 cent, 50 cent, 1 dollar), its waiting there somewhere for you.

No different than wonging the former Flush Attack's...I never thought to do that with Ultimate-X...I know there are 5 machines at my local casino (at the bar no less) so I bet if I wonged them, I could pick up abandoned multipliers (although I'm sure they'd always be on nickles rather than quarters or dollars)
Thanks for the the tip!

I tried searching Ultimate-X games for multipliers but I didn't find any. Some machines had 10 themes or so with multi-denom, so you could have 30 different possible games to check. I spent about 3 minutes checking a machine.

You should not feel bad about other people's ignorance. If you do hunt for machines like this, just make sure you wager 5 credits per hand to maximize your profit.

For a .25, .50, $1.00 triple play machine, you only need to check each 'game' once. Set the denomination to .25 and go through each game. You are looking at 2 things for each game:

1) Does the play meter show 3 lines, 10 coins?

2) If 1 above is true, were any of the 3 hands showing a 'winning hand' for the game being played?

If #2 is true above, but you don't see the multiplier at the quarter level, that means the prior player was playing a higher denomination. Up the denomination to 50 cents, look for the multiplier for that game and then $1 a look for the multipler for that game.

The hands shown for each 'game' are the same for each denomination. So you only need to do an initial check on the quarter level denominations to determine there should be a left over multiplier somewhere for each game. No need to go through each denomination of every game.

Take a typical 6 game triple play Ult X machine with 3 denominations. You only need to initially do 6 checks....each game at the quarter level. If you see a hand or hands that were winners and the bet shows 3 for 10 and the quarter level doesn't show the multiplier(s) only then should you up the denomination to find the multiplier(s) for that game.

My favorite casino has 12 Ult X machines that I check every time I go (assuming that people are not actually playing them when I'm looking). Sometimes I strike out completely, other times someone is nice enough to leave multipliers on almost every game. Even with the multipliers you can still lose of course, so its not an automatic profit, but I certainly am well ahead over the 18 months I've been employing this method. I've never hit a huge jackpot or anything like that, after all you only get one hand per opportunity. But the occasional $20, $40 or even $100 quick profit is worth it to me.

And as stated in the post above, your vulture bet should be all lines, 5 coins per line. Just one single play (if you are merely looking to vulture). If you have any left over multiplier I believe your average payback for just that one hand spikes substantially over 100% (making it the best bet in the casino).

Enjoy and profit!!!!!

Quote: cpm57

If you have any left over multiplier I believe your average payback for just that one hand spikes substantially over 100% (making it the best bet in the casino).

Enjoy and profit!!!!!

Your post is full of great info. I just wanted to comment on the payback percentage. Even if you play a 10 play game and there is a single 2x multiplier on one hand, then your payback will be over 100%, just not much. If you find a mulitplier on a 3 play, then your lowest return on the worst paytable with only one 2x multiplier is 127%.

Also, if you are vulturing, you don't need to worry about the ever changing strategy based on your current multiplier, instead, you will just play basic strategy.

If you are playing (and not vulturing) then I recommend either quitting when you gained no multipliers or wagering 5 credits on all lines for your last hand, which cashes in on previously earned multipliers while not paying to get the next set of multipliers.

Sweet...favoite casino just added another 8 Ult X machines. More vulturing opportunities. I'm pushing $500 profit for the year just from the vulturing and now they've almost doubled my potential opportunities.

Too bad more video poker isn't consistantly profitable.

Quote: cpm57

And as stated in the post above, your vulture bet should be all lines, 5 coins per line. Just one single play (if you are merely looking to vulture).

Old thread, resurrected...
Given the fact a multiplier results in a +EV spin, why bet only 5 coins? Don't you want to get the most money you can on the table?

Quote: 21forme

Old thread, resurrected...
Given the fact a multiplier results in a +EV spin, why bet only 5 coins? Don't you want to get the most money you can on the table?

Because 5 coins is the max. You can bet 1-5 coins with no multipliers for the next hand, or 10 coins which is 5 coins but with multipliers next hand (5 coins play, 5 more coins buys the multipliers). You don't want to buy multipliers for the next hand, you're looking for the single play to use up the existing multipliers.

Quote: TIMSPEED

No different than wonging the former Flush Attack's...I never thought to do that with Ultimate-X...I know there are 5 machines at my local casino (at the bar no less) so I bet if I wonged them, I could pick up abandoned multipliers (although I'm sure they'd always be on nickles rather than quarters or dollars)
Thanks for the the tip!

Did you play FA if so where and what years? It's probably the best game ever. SIGMA PLEASE COME BACK WE LOVE YOU!!

Quote: 21forme

Old thread, resurrected...
Given the fact a multiplier results in a +EV spin, why bet only 5 coins? Don't you want to get the most money you can on the table?

The game pays the same amount of money whether you bet 5 or 10 credits. Betting 5 lets you cash in on the existing multiplier which was awarded for someone else's 10 credit bet, and you can play the regular strategy.

Got it. Thanks.

Quote: cpm57

Too bad more video poker isn't consistantly profitable.

For what it's worth, there is another game that has potential "left-over" value. Unfortunately, not nearly as many people play this one, at least not in my neck of the woods... Or, if they do play, they complete all of the free hands before bailing. So much for the "hawk" player. (I prefer this term to "vulture." You may prefer "eagle" or "falcon.")

Bonus Hand Triple-Play gives you free hands on your next play when you are dealt certain hands (trips or two pair thru a boat?) on your current play. You may only play 6 additional hands (making 9 total) at a time, but you may accumulate, or bank, of up to 100 hands, which would be extremely unlikely.

I think the fact that 3-of-a-kinds only return 2 bets instead of 3 is a major factor for the average Joe's not taking to this like they have with Ultimate X. The funny thing is the return for these games is still a little better than the standard VP counterparts with the full trips payouts.

If you are looking for this game, search the All-Star Poker or Super Star (?) machine types with the tabs running down the left-hand side of the screen, like were you might find Ultimate X. It will almost always be on the bottom tab, and I have never seen both this game and UX on the same machine. Also, I don't recall having seen this game as a stand alone in Northern Nevada, but Vegas could be a different story if the game is popular enough there...

Hawk beware! You are looking for a box outlined in yellow near the bottom of the screen (kind of looks like a long price tag that you might see at a yard sale) indicating the number of free games remaining. Don't be fooled by information at the top of the screen, as this only indicates the games that were just played, as can be confirmed by the number of final hands displayed on the screen (there should be more than 3 in this case).

Thanks for the thread. I've got a question about UX. At Trump Plaza in AC the machines don't let you play five credits on your last hand and get the multipliers. If you try it erases your existing multipliers, therefore they are stealing 5 credits per customer because on the first hand there are no multipliers even though your betting ten credits. Whats up with that?

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Quote: pew

Thanks for the thread. I've got a question about UX. At Trump Plaza in AC the machines don't let you play five credits on your last hand and get the multipliers. If you try it erases your existing multipliers, therefore they are stealing 5 credits per customer because on the first hand there are no multipliers even though your betting ten credits. Whats up with that?

If you earn a multiplier playing 10 credit because you made the designated hand, it should stay there even if you reduce the next bet to 5. Or maybe I'm not understanding something. Then again, Trump.

I've noticed non-VP games where the player is warned there is still a bonus available when you try to cash out. But not seen anything on a VP game (yet!).

...it might be a demo game screen, that runs on most games, not actual last played game?

Quote: rxwine

I've noticed non-VP games where the player is warned there is still a bonus available when you try to cash out. But not seen anything on a VP game (yet!).

Build-a-Wheel Poker gives you a clear warning if you have earned wheel wedges. I played this game once at Horseshoe Tunica (their best available game), and got a similar "walk of shame" as shown below.

https://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/tables/build-a-wheel/

Quote: rxwine

If you earn a multiplier playing 10 credit because you made the designated hand, it should stay there even if you reduce the next bet to 5. Or maybe I'm not understanding something. Then again, Trump.

I've noticed non-VP games where the player is warned there is still a bonus available when you try to cash out. But not seen anything on a VP game (yet!).

That's right, but it didn't when I threw away a twenty on that stupid stupid game! Therefore the casino is stealing half of your initial bet. Maybe it's legal in AC. By the way when I checked there were never any multipliers on the machines, I think the local yokels are pretty savvy there. Vulters everywhere!

That's really weird about Trump; I have never seen an Ult X machine that behaves that way, and it should be illegal. But the way New Jersey law is so poorly written w/respect to gaming machines, imo, I wouldn't be shocked that it isn't currently written to be expressly illegal.

Speaking of Trump the Multi strike (my favorite game) there has the cards set on top of each other so ten cards dealt which I think is cool.

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