John says that using free play he had a $180,000 profit on VP last year.
He's one of the savvy Youtubers too because he has a high production value added to his channel with long introductions to the videos which increases his YouTube statistics and probably his revenue.
I also appreciate that he gives the correct holds on the game he says he's an expert at and that is 8/5 Bonus poker.
In this video there's a good example of how he ropes you in for a long time before actual play which must help his viewership stats.
But more importantly starting at about 13 minutes into the video he announces that he's going to try to repeat last year's success by starting small and seeing how big he can get.
Hopefully he'll show us all of his play.
This is interesting to me.
https://youtu.be/gQFuXWdna-Q
He claims he started with $15 of free play and in three hours cashed out $109,000 including a $100k royal.
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He claims he started with $15 of free play and in three hours cashed out $109,000 including a $100k royal.
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For reference and also for skeptics, please see the youtube clip below and fast forward to 05:18 of the clip where slotmassacre explains the sequence of John hitting $100K from freeplay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFeBkbUMjt8
Quote: SiegfriedRoyQuote: AlanMendelsonFor those who don't know his story...
He claims he started with $15 of free play and in three hours cashed out $109,000 including a $100k royal.
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For reference and also for skeptics, please see the youtube clip below and fast forward to 05:18 of the clip where slotmassacre explains the sequence of John hitting $100K from freeplay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFeBkbUMjt8
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But is that repeatable in a predictable fashion or did he just get lucky?
For reference, in 2013 I took a $75 freebet at tables in Ceasars and ran it up to a few thousand in ten or fifteen minutes at Roulette. (I documented it here on this very forum contemporaneously).
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/trip-reports/18987-caesars-ac-trip-report/
But that was obviously a lucky afternoon and not something to expect to repeat with confidence.
Is it likely? No.
Can it happen?
Will it happen? We know that he'd have to get lucky since skill by itself is such a tiny part of video poker.
Quote: AlanMendelsonIs it repeatable? Yes
Is it likely? No.
Can it happen?
Will it happen? We know that he'd have to get lucky since skill by itself is such a tiny part of video poker.
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Yep. Guys like Bob Dancer just keep getting lucky every year. That's what separates them from the sheep. It's not the work they put in. It's just they spend more time on the machines so they get luckier.
Quote: billryanQuote: AlanMendelsonIs it repeatable? Yes
Is it likely? No.
Can it happen?
Will it happen? We know that he'd have to get lucky since skill by itself is such a tiny part of video poker.
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Yep. Guys like Bob Dancer just keep getting lucky every year. That's what separates them from the sheep. It's not the work they put in. It's just they spend more time on the machines so they get luckier.
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Bob is a member here. Maybe he'll comment.
8/5 Bonus is a -EV game. John will need more than skill to beat the house edge.
And then he'll have to keep winning to total $100k. And he will have to do that using only free play.
Wizard got a formula for that?
Quote: darkozQuote: SiegfriedRoyQuote: AlanMendelsonFor those who don't know his story...
He claims he started with $15 of free play and in three hours cashed out $109,000 including a $100k royal.
link to original post
For reference and also for skeptics, please see the youtube clip below and fast forward to 05:18 of the clip where slotmassacre explains the sequence of John hitting $100K from freeplay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFeBkbUMjt8
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But is that repeatable in a predictable fashion or did he just get lucky?
For reference, in 2013 I took a $75 freebet at tables in Ceasars and ran it up to a few thousand in ten or fifteen minutes at Roulette. (I documented it here on this very forum contemporaneously).
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/trip-reports/18987-caesars-ac-trip-report/
But that was obviously a lucky afternoon and not something to expect to repeat with confidence.
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I'm sure he was playing optimally, but I will guess that it was more luck and it was his day for everything to go right for him. He would have had to hit some really lucky hands well in the beginning of his $15 freeplay and then several big hands as he went to higher denomination.
Running $75 freebet to few thousand is also impressive.
My best run was turning $1200 promo chips (Not play till lose, but use once win or lose) at the Palazzo and running hot to turn that into $22K. That was a more satisfying feeling than some of my other higher amount trips where I risked my own money.
Quote: billryanQuote: AlanMendelsonIs it repeatable? Yes
Is it likely? No.
Can it happen?
Will it happen? We know that he'd have to get lucky since skill by itself is such a tiny part of video poker.
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Yep. Guys like Bob Dancer just keep getting lucky every year. That's what separates them from the sheep. It's not the work they put in. It's just they spend more time on the machines so they get luckier.
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Bob Dancer utilized advantage play methods and has mentioned that it's unlikely he could repeat winning a million in a year like he recounted because conditions are different.
Which brings me back to was this guy lucky or playing with an advantage (besides a very minimal startup of $15 freeplay.
It sounds like this guy just got lucky.
I wouldn't bother with someone who got lucky. Might as well read the winning memoirs of lottery winners.
Also I believe it was Dancer's wife who hit the $400,000 royal.
Oh. And John mentioned nothing about taxes on his $180,000+ net win in 2021. He said he spent $160k on his pool and backyard and $20k isnt enough for Fed and Cal taxes.
He is not an AT. (Advantage Taxpayer)