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November 26th, 2021 at 2:15:05 PM permalink
I just wrote a page on Video Poker with Replacement at Wizard of Odds. I welcome all comments and corrections, especially on the "ethical issues" at the bottom of the page?

Thank you.
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November 26th, 2021 at 6:16:31 PM permalink
Not only are discards not conventionally reshuffled back into the deck before drawing in Video Poker, discards are not shuffled back into the deck before drawing in live-action 5-card Draw Poker or any form of live draw poker, or in any poker-variant table game that has a draw that I am aware of.
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November 26th, 2021 at 7:00:22 PM permalink
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Wizard's article 2019 about this concept
https://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/tables/bonus-video-poker/

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In standard video poker games the player holds certain cards from the initial five cards dealt. He then asks for a replacement of the remaining cards. The cards to be replaced go out of play. This means that the deck from which fresh cards are dealt does not contain these cards. This is natural because the player does not want these cards in his hand. In Cryptologic's Bonus Video Poker the cards which are to be replaced are returned to the deck. The deck is then shuffled and the fresh cards are dealt. This means that the discarded cards have a chance of being dealt again. This is obviously disadvantageous to the player. Bonus Video Poker compensates the player by awarding bonus credits if a discarded card is dealt again. Other than this difference the procedure of play is the same as that in the standard game.
http://www.casinoadvisor.com/video-poker-cryptologicbonus-lesson.html

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The concept was created by me +3 in 2005 as an only one way to avoid Moody's multi hand VP patent infringement.
https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2006059244A2/en

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amazingly about 50% players accepted this. It was success and tremendous profit
I’d rather have to be a lucky player than good one.
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November 26th, 2021 at 7:50:23 PM permalink
Quote: VladAlex1

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Wizard's article 2019 about this concept
https://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/tables/bonus-video-poker/

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In standard video poker games the player holds certain cards from the initial five cards dealt. He then asks for a replacement of the remaining cards. The cards to be replaced go out of play. This means that the deck from which fresh cards are dealt does not contain these cards. This is natural because the player does not want these cards in his hand. In Cryptologic's Bonus Video Poker the cards which are to be replaced are returned to the deck. The deck is then shuffled and the fresh cards are dealt. This means that the discarded cards have a chance of being dealt again. This is obviously disadvantageous to the player. Bonus Video Poker compensates the player by awarding bonus credits if a discarded card is dealt again. Other than this difference the procedure of play is the same as that in the standard game.
http://www.casinoadvisor.com/video-poker-cryptologicbonus-lesson.html

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The concept was created by me +3 in 2005 as an only one way to avoid Moody's multi hand VP patent infringement.
https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2006059244A2/en

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amazingly about 50% players accepted this. It was success and tremendous profit
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so you sue?...
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November 26th, 2021 at 8:23:01 PM permalink
I think the article is a good analysis of the game being offered.
May the cards fall in your favor.
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November 27th, 2021 at 3:49:58 AM permalink
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Rules and Pays must be presented on the game layout as an industry gold ethic standard.
Alternatively Rules page must be popup before game session and then pop down to the menu
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Sadly, that is not true. When have you seen on the felt that double after splits not allowed in BJ? I have never seen it, yet some casinos do it.
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November 27th, 2021 at 4:10:35 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

Quote: VladAlex1

Rules and Pays must be presented on the game layout as an industry gold ethic standard.
Alternatively Rules page must be popup before game session and then pop down to the menu
link to original post



Sadly, that is not true. When have you seen on the felt that double after splits not allowed in BJ? I have never seen it, yet some casinos do it.
link to original post



I believe Vlad may be referring to the online gaming industry.

I have definitely seen house rules for blackjack signage explaining which games allow DAS and which do not, but that's way out here, well away from Vegas.
May the cards fall in your favor.
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November 27th, 2021 at 4:55:58 AM permalink
"I believe Vlad may be referring to the online gaming industry"

Yes, I am online industry guy since 1995
I-Gaming is my job,
"drugs ,sex and rocking roll" is my real life

I’d rather have to be a lucky player than good one.
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November 27th, 2021 at 7:49:08 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

Quote: VladAlex1

Rules and Pays must be presented on the game layout as an industry gold ethic standard.
Alternatively Rules page must be popup before game session and then pop down to the menu
link to original post



Sadly, that is not true. When have you seen on the felt that double after splits not allowed in BJ? I have never seen it, yet some casinos do it.
link to original post



I think what vlad means is in standards like GLI, as well as some state laws make sure that the rules are “normal” rules UNLESS otherwise stated
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November 30th, 2021 at 3:15:30 PM permalink
Good article.
One problem: Error 404.
At the bottom of the page, the link to this thread points to the WoO domain.
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