justreg76
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November 1st, 2021 at 3:02:47 PM permalink
Hi, I wonder what is the chance of bankruptcy in this situation : Bank= 20000 ; flat bet =10 ; the game = joker poker K or better
return = 99,3% + 1% in bonuses and other things = 100,3%
Payout
Natural Royal Flush 9,500
Five of a Kind 2,000
Wild Royal Flush 1,000
Straight Flush 500
Four of a Kind 180
Full House 70
Flush 50
Straight 30
Three of a Kind 20
Two Pair 10
Kings or Better 10
return = 0.993193
ssho88
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November 2nd, 2021 at 5:42:56 AM permalink
Quote: justreg76

Hi, I wonder what is the chance of bankruptcy in this situation : Bank= 20000 ; flat bet =10 ; the game = joker poker K or better
return = 99,3% + 1% in bonuses and other things = 100,3%
Payout
Natural Royal Flush 9,500
Five of a Kind 2,000
Wild Royal Flush 1,000
Straight Flush 500
Four of a Kind 180
Full House 70
Flush 50
Straight 30
Three of a Kind 20
Two Pair 10
Kings or Better 10
return = 0.993193
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BR = 20000/10 = 2000 units
ev = 0.3%
Variance = 5.9^2 = 34.81
Bet size = 1 unit

k = Kelly ratio = 5.9^2 * 100/0.3/2000 = 5.8017

Long term ROR = e^(-2/k) = 0.7084 = 70.84% !


In order to reduce ROR to 1.83%, k=0.5, your BR :-

ev/Var * BR * k = Bet size
0.3/34.81/100 * BR * 0.5 = 1
BR = 23207 units = $ 232,070
Last edited by: ssho88 on Nov 2, 2021
justreg76
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November 2nd, 2021 at 9:18:36 AM permalink
thank you very much!!!
Just wonder how did you get the Variance formula, I'm not good enough in mathematics and probabilities, just know the simple basics.
ssho88
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November 2nd, 2021 at 3:21:00 PM permalink
Variance can be calculated based on each hand probability and payout
justreg76
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November 2nd, 2021 at 11:00:16 PM permalink
Thank you!
justreg76
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February 23rd, 2022 at 3:27:37 AM permalink
HI, I'm back again. I wonder about my results after 271000 hands :
Straight Flush 110 times, ???
Wild Royal Flush 30 times ,
Five of a Kind 20 times,
Natural Royal Flush 3 times. ???

I think Straight Flush should come arround 158 times , and Natural Royal Flush 7 times for these number of hands.
I worry about the software manipulation or it is normal bad run ??
Is it possible the auto holder to be the reason of bad run too - It does not pick all the hands according to basic strategy.
examples:

Pick only Ks in AsKs x x x hands

does not hold:
open ended straight draw
3 for a strtaight flush
2 suited for Royal

Hands in upper part of the basic strategy table are auto holded correctly

I have 2% bonus for turnover and theoretical return 99.3% which should take me in positive 101.3% return in long run, but reality is negative :(
Is it normal bad run ?
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