100xOdds
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December 31st, 2020 at 2:05:22 PM permalink
$2 9/7 db (99.1%)
1500 hands in 3 hrs
-$2800

i lost almost $2 per hand on avg.
I only got about a 80% return on this 99.1% game. :(
uggg... that's worse than slots!

I did not get any quads.
on avg, you get a quad once every 500 hands or so.
so i went 3 cycles w/o a quad.
and yes, i did the ploppy thing where i moved to another machine after each $500 loss. (Doesnt do anything mathematically but it made me feel better.)

Here's my calcs:

DB ($10)
variance 28.55
st dev 5.343220003

OriginalSD 53.43220003
sd(1500 hands) $2069.42

ev -133.5


i was almost 1.5 σ (standard deviations) away from norm vs an expected EV of -$133.5.
ouch :(
Last edited by: 100xOdds on Dec 31, 2020
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice). Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
ChumpChange
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December 31st, 2020 at 2:20:36 PM permalink
I'm sure regular 3 coin '3 reel / one payline' slots pay 66.7% until you hit a jackpot.
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December 31st, 2020 at 3:07:21 PM permalink
When you left the machines, they were due.
Mission146
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January 4th, 2021 at 8:13:47 AM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

$2 9/7 db (99.1%)
1500 hands in 3 hrs
-$2800

i lost almost $2 per hand on avg.
I only got about a 80% return on this 99.1% game. :(
uggg... that's worse than slots!

I did not get any quads.
on avg, you get a quad once every 500 hands or so.
so i went 3 cycles w/o a quad.
and yes, i did the ploppy thing where i moved to another machine after each $500 loss. (Doesnt do anything mathematically but it made me feel better.)

Here's my calcs:

DB ($10)
variance 28.55
st dev 5.343220003

OriginalSD 53.43220003
sd(1500 hands) $2069.42

ev -133.5


i was almost 1.5 σ (standard deviations) away from norm vs an expected EV of -$133.5.
ouch :(



I've certainly never had that bad of a session cash-wise, but in terms of % return, I WISH that was the worst session I've ever had.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
DRich
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January 4th, 2021 at 8:16:34 AM permalink
My worst single session was -$10,000 on a 100% machine. Back when I played a lot I had a stopping point if I lost $10,000 in a day. That was the only time I ever hit my stop loss.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
100xOdds
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January 4th, 2021 at 11:25:09 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

My worst single session was -$10,000 on a 100% machine. Back when I played a lot I had a stopping point if I lost $10,000 in a day. That was the only time I ever hit my stop loss.

ouch!

what denom was the machine?
huge difference in a 10k loss between a $5 machine ($25/spin) and $100 machine ($500/spin)
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice). Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
DRich
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January 4th, 2021 at 12:04:27 PM permalink
It was $10 denom video poker
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
USpapergames
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January 4th, 2021 at 6:03:01 PM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds


i was almost 1.5 σ (standard deviations) away from norm vs an expected EV of -$133.5.
ouch :(



Sorry about the bad session. Luck can be a b****
Math is the only true form of knowledge
terapined
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January 5th, 2021 at 12:50:47 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

My worst single session was -$10,000 on a 100% machine. Back when I played a lot I had a stopping point if I lost $10,000 in a day. That was the only time I ever hit my stop loss.


I've lost overall on 100% + machines
My favorite machines in Vegas was that row below Magnolias at the 4 Queens that were 100.17 + because of the progressive. I played those machines a ton
Never hit a royal
So bummed when 4 Queens removed that bank of machines.
Maybe a good thing
Dont play much VP these days , low roller, 25cent machines so 1.25 a bet. If I do play these days, limit loss to 20 bucks.
The only time I hit a royal was in Biloxi on a 99.54 machine years ago.
Overall probably down a little. Without the royal in Biloxi, would be down a lot.
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January 5th, 2021 at 2:12:15 PM permalink
Quote: USpapergames

Quote: 100xOdds


i was almost 1.5 σ (standard deviations) away from norm vs an expected EV of -$133.5.
ouch :(



Sorry about the bad session. Luck can be a b****



Luck or variance?
The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.
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