Simon23
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February 14th, 2020 at 8:36:14 AM permalink
Does anyone know of a video poker strategy generator that will make a strategy for this game? As Video Poker for Winners does not have Pick a Pair, no other software package I have found allows you to account for the different payout between the nines or better (5) and the jacks or better (10) in customizing the paytable to generate the strategy. I even went are far as to dust off my old version of Frugal Video Poker and Video Poker Strategy Master and that couldn't do it as you could not edit the paytable ranks (as in VPW). Any thoughts?
gordonm888
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February 14th, 2020 at 8:36:18 PM permalink
The Pick a Pair decision (discarding one of two cards when you see four cards, then get 2 more cards) is very different than the Video Poker decisions. I'm not surprised that conventional video poker strategy generators can't handle it.

There is a posted generic strategy for Pick a Pair here but I find it confusing/incomprehensible at points -and it is not optimized for the DDB payout tables.

However, this is a relatively easy game to generate a strategy for, using either a looping code or Excel to list all the relevant hands. (Pick a Pair is a 6-card game with one 'either/or' decision on the discard - and there's all sorts of suit folding one can use to reduce the number of hands.)

If you're lucky, maybe the Wizard or CharliePatrick or one of the other gaming mathematicians will develop and post a strategy (I'm too busy for the next couple of weeks.)
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ThatDonGuy
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February 16th, 2020 at 8:20:03 AM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

However, this is a relatively easy game to generate a strategy for, using either a looping code or Excel to list all the relevant hands. (Pick a Pair is a 6-card game with one 'either/or' decision on the discard - and there's all sorts of suit folding one can use to reduce the number of hands.)


Not quite as easy as it sounds to put into a "pencil & paper" strategy.

Even without taking specific suits into account, there are 169 different pairs of dealt cards (i.e. the two face-up cards you keep); 13 pairs, 78 where both are the same suit, and 78 where they are two different suits and not a pair.

For just the pairs, I count 469 different pairs of cards where you choose one - for example, if you are dealt As Ah:
1 - Ac Ad
12 - other pair, and both cards match the dealt suits (e.g. 2s 2h, 3s 3h, and so on through Ks Kh)
12 - other pair, and one card matches the dealt suits (e.g. 2s 2c, 3s 3c, and so on through Ks Kc)
12 - other pair, and neither card matches the dealt suits (e.g. 2c 2d through Kc Kd)
66 - suited, and the suit is in the dealt pair (e.g. 2s 3s, 2s 4s, 2s 5s, and so on through Qs Ks)
66 - suited, but the suit is not in the dealt pair (e.g. 2c 3c, 2c 4c, and so on through Qc Kc)
12 - one Ace, and the other card is in one of the dealt suits (e.g. Ac 2s, Ac 3s, and so on through Ac Ks)
12 - one Ace, and the other card is the same suit as the "third" Ace (e.g. Ac 2c through Ac Kc)
12 - one Ace, and the other card is in neither the dealt suits nor the third Ace suit (e.g. Ac 2d through Ac Kd)
66 - not paired, no Aces, and both cards are in the dealt suits (e.g. 2s 3h through Qs Kh)
66 - not paired, no Aces, and the high card is in a dealt suit (e.g. 2c 3s through Qc Ks)
66 - not paired, no Aces, and the low card is in a dealt suit (e.g. 2s 3c through Qs Kc)
66 - not paired, no Aces, and neither card is in a dealt suit (e.g. 2c 3d through Qc Kd)

And I haven't even mentioned when you're not dealt a pair.
bobbartop
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February 16th, 2020 at 1:45:48 PM permalink
Quote: Simon23

Does anyone know of a video poker strategy generator that will make a strategy for this game? As Video Poker for Winners does not have Pick a Pair, no other software package I have found allows you to account for the different payout between the nines or better (5) and the jacks or better (10) in customizing the paytable to generate the strategy. I even went are far as to dust off my old version of Frugal Video Poker and Video Poker Strategy Master and that couldn't do it as you could not edit the paytable ranks (as in VPW). Any thoughts?




I know you want to figure this out. I would like to see you figure it out. But is there a use for it? I have the game at a local casino and I think the paytable was too low even if I could figure out how to play. It wasn't practical for me. Looked interesting, though.
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February 19th, 2020 at 3:40:21 AM permalink
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