bobbartop
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February 2nd, 2020 at 12:09:06 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Sorry, you are correct. Detroit Michigan

https://www.lawcrossing.com/article/1761/Just-For-a-Nickel-Token/




Definitely. Thank you, Dark Oz, I looked and looked and I couldn't find it. But that's it. I would never have remembered Motor City, I thought it might be Greektown or Soaring Eagle, but that would have been wrong. And there was a second old lady involved.

Wow, what a mess. What a stupid move by the casino. No wonder I couldn't remember. That was 2001. Long time ago, it didn't seem like it was that long ago.

Thanks again.
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FleaStiff
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February 2nd, 2020 at 12:42:01 AM permalink
Quote: bobbartop

I don't mess around.

Good. Y'all can call me a coward but with all those people paid to watch and all those cameras and all those cops and radios, I don't mess around either. some of those guys have 40/20 vision surgeries: they see at 40 feet what others see at 20 feet.

one way street? yeah, it often is. so what?
SingleCoinVP
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February 2nd, 2020 at 3:37:51 AM permalink
I will be leaving this forum soon. I may stop back to visit on occasion. I have enjoyed my time with you. There are members here who clearly know what they are talking about when it comes to casino gambling. It's impressive. I see a casino as a very different place than those folks describe. I see it as a social club where the members play Candy Crush or Super Mario for money. Profit is not my motivation for playing this game. If it happens, I am pleased. If it costs me more than I wish to pay, I am not.

My predictions about the direction of video poker are proving to be true. Ten years ago, I predicted that all video poker games would be negative. We are not all there yet, but it's getting closer. I said video poker would be replaced with penny slots and it's happening. I also said video poker strategy books would be worthless. I was wrong about that. Video poker math has value. You can use it to predetermine the cost of playing today's negative games and help you to reduce that cost.

On Thursday I went to the Tampa Hard Rock. Like always, I played video poker. I was sitting next to a man playing 8/5 double double bonus. When I noticed he hit 4 aces with a kicker, I congratulated him. I looked over to see what denomination he was playing. He was playing quarters. I expected to see at least $500 in his credit total. It was $150. I then noticed he was playing single coin. He probably expected me to make a comment about playing single coin as this happens to me all the time. I told him he was a smart man to play that way and he smiled. He knew the math just like I did.
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vegas
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February 2nd, 2020 at 5:59:35 AM permalink
If he got 150 dollars for one coin that is a good paytable for DDB.
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SingleCoinVP
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February 2nd, 2020 at 10:41:53 AM permalink
8/5 Double Double Bonus is the most common DDB pay schedule in the Southeast. It is also the most popular video poker game by far. According to my VPW software, 8/5 is a 96.786% game with max coins (5) and a 95.455% game at single coin. At single coin, it pays 400 coins for 4 Aces with a kicker or $100 in quarters. The man next to me had about $50 in the machine when he hit the $100 hand.

Our penny slot return is 10% or less. Our minimum penny slot bet is now 68 cents a hand. It's been steadily creeping up with many so-called penny sots at two cents or more per credit. I expect it won't be long until casinos start blocking all video poker coin buttons forcing a larger minimum bet. The video poker machines in the Tampa Hard Rock High Limit room have their coin buttons blocked now.

Anyway you look at it, video poker is going the way of all formerly advantage casino games. With a smaller ever shrinking customer base, casinos have to make as much profit as they can from the players who are left.
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vegas
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February 2nd, 2020 at 1:53:21 PM permalink
That is the problem in Florida. They only have Indian casinos and they have a monopoly so they can do as they wish. You need competition. Video poker is not disappearing where I live.
50-50-90 Rule: Anytime you have a 50-50 chance of getting something right, there is a 90% probability you'll get it wrong
FleaStiff
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February 2nd, 2020 at 4:54:42 PM permalink
Quote: SingleCoinVP


Anyway you look at it, video poker is going the way of all formerly advantage casino games. With a smaller than ever shrinking customer base, casinos have to make as much profit as they can from the players who are left.

Casinos may cry about an ever shrinking customer base but even if that is true acasino can simply drum up more customers instead of putting the squeeze on the remaining ones.
Minty
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February 2nd, 2020 at 8:30:24 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Casinos may cry about an ever shrinking customer base but even if that is true acasino can simply drum up more customers instead of putting the squeeze on the remaining ones.



How much of a decline are we talking about? Yeah, I walk into some casinos that seem dead, but oftentimes they seem just fine. Granted, that's all anecdotal, but I'd be surprised if thinking were really so bad as to justify the worsening paytables, poorer table game conditions, rising resort fees, parking fees and whatever else is happening to put the squeeze on people.
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tringlomane
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February 3rd, 2020 at 2:06:25 AM permalink
Quote: PokerGrinder

Well I garbage picked my way to $13,000 tax free dollars this month. Iíll never know for sure but I think I would literally dive into a dumpster for $13k lol.

Why is vulturing leftover wilds and multipliers like garbage picking?


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You won 13k dollars tax free in a month? Pics??? Only vulturing? I wish I've won that in the last 6 years part-time.

Last big hit in April at M Resort. Didn't post the trip, and the last nine trips to Vegas, partly thanks to EvenBob.

darkoz
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February 3rd, 2020 at 4:52:29 AM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

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You won 13k dollars tax free in a month? Pics??? Only vulturing? I wish I've won that in the last 6 years part-time.

Last big hit in April at M Resort. Didn't post the trip, and the last nine trips to Vegas, partly thanks to EvenBob.



Since it was tax-free (not jackpots), why would he take pics?

I don't vulture but I saw someone who does wait about 15 minutes for a player to get up from a vulturable machine. When the vulture had his chance he wound up winning close to $200.

Repeated on a daily basis, hour upon hour it adds up

$13,000 in a month is not difficult to believe.
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