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November 21st, 2019 at 6:35:09 PM permalink
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I think your aunt might be my dad.

Me too.
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November 21st, 2019 at 6:38:41 PM permalink
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Me too.



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November 21st, 2019 at 7:01:31 PM permalink
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For the past 15 years or so my aunt has said the same. She continues to smoke, drink, and just generally abuse herself along with having various ailments. She is also now legally blind. None of her attempts at hitting the other side of the dirt are working.
The smoking is keeping away the viruses and the drinking has completely pickled her and made her immune to all bacteria. Her body is so screwed up cancer is afraid of her. It has taken up residence 3 times and wound up leaving each time. She starves it out by not eating and swilling copious amounts of liquor.😀



Sounds like a fun girl. Is she single?
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November 21st, 2019 at 8:19:06 PM permalink
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That makes us sisters.

If the dresses fit....
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November 21st, 2019 at 11:21:25 PM permalink
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It's been over 20 years since I had a friend who had a bypass, opening his chest. He's still alive, but was never the same. Then I know people who just had a stent put in, and essentially good as new.



I had my (4x) bypass in ‘91. Except for the big scar down the middle of my chest I don’t think about it. At my last stress test two years ago I was told to keep doing what I’m doing (which is nothing).

My brother was an ex-addict, and when he had his heart attack he refused surgery because he was afraid the morphine would cause him to relapse. After maybe half a dozen stents he had another attack that killed him. He was 54.
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November 22nd, 2019 at 12:43:22 AM permalink
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I don't think I am dying on a daily basis, I just doubt that I have more than a few years.



I don't know, you seem to doing pretty well with blood pressure 250/130 or whatever the hell it was. Maybe you'll just be buried alive.
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November 22nd, 2019 at 5:15:51 AM permalink
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For the past 15 years or so my aunt has said the same. She continues to smoke, drink, and just generally abuse herself along with having various ailments. She is also now legally blind. None of her attempts at hitting the other side of the dirt are working.
The smoking is keeping away the viruses and the drinking has completely pickled her and made her immune to all bacteria. Her body is so screwed up cancer is afraid of her. It has taken up residence 3 times and wound up leaving each time. She starves it out by not eating and swilling copious amounts of liquor.😀



You sold me!

Today I start a strict regiment of liquor and smoking all day long.

Ya think it's OK if I add some cannabis in there as well?
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November 22nd, 2019 at 6:52:39 AM permalink
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I had my (4x) bypass in ‘91. Except for the big scar down the middle of my chest I don’t think about it. At my last stress test two years ago I was told to keep doing what I’m doing (which is nothing).

My brother was an ex-addict, and when he had his heart attack he refused surgery because he was afraid the morphine would cause him to relapse. After maybe half a dozen stents he had another attack that killed him. He was 54.



Gosh, that's awful. So young.
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November 22nd, 2019 at 6:52:56 AM permalink
Unless you get hit by a bus or shot by a jealous husband, how long you will live is written in your genes. My great grandfather had tuberculosis most of his adult life. He smoked and chewed tobacco so much that I don't remember ever seeing him without one or the other in his mouth. The doctors said the tobacco kept the TB from killing him. I'm not sure I believe that, but he lived to be in his late nineties. I'm OK with living long as long as I can still do the things that I enjoy. When I'm useless to myself and others, I'm out of here.
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November 22nd, 2019 at 7:00:02 AM permalink
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I don't know, you seem to doing pretty well with blood pressure 250/130 or whatever the hell it was. Maybe you'll just be buried alive.




I didn't know DRich had that problem. That reading is "stroke-time". He's got to do something about that, that is so serious.

By coincidence, I was just taking my BP as I just woke up and was logging into this thread. 155/95, not that bad, but I will have it much lower in about a half hour. I am doing so many things to combat this, at the same time trying to ditch the pills.
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November 22nd, 2019 at 7:06:48 AM permalink
Seven years ago I was on the ground, waiting for an ambulance. They took a reading of 250/180. I have never felt that bad before, I wondered to myself, "Am I about to die?"

The paramedics asked me if I knew my name. I said, "Yes, Bob Bartop". Then they asked me if I knew who was president. I said, "Sure, it's Obama." One of the paramedics said, "Uh oh, his blood pressure just rose another 20 points."
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November 22nd, 2019 at 8:54:34 AM permalink
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I didn't know DRich had that problem. That reading is "stroke-time". He's got to do something about that, that is so serious.

By coincidence, I was just taking my BP as I just woke up and was logging into this thread. 155/95, not that bad, but I will have it much lower in about a half hour. I am doing so many things to combat this, at the same time trying to ditch the pills.



132/89
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November 22nd, 2019 at 8:59:09 AM permalink
I've been salting my apple in the morning. Gotta get the numbers up.😀
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November 22nd, 2019 at 11:29:20 AM permalink
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The highest reading that I remember right now was 221/153. I am regularly 188/135. It is funny because every time that I go to a doctor they try to send me right to the emergency room. I then explain that is normal for me and then they look at my history and see it.

BTW, when I start to get headaches I take my 40mg Lisinopril.




Oh for fks sake, Lisinopril almost killed me. Go ahead, google it. I bet there are more complaints about Lisinopril than any other BP bullsht med in the country. I stopped one of my meds and my doctor told me to not throw it out because later I am going to want it later. I said the only thing I'm going to want is another doctor. The guy is a quack, like so many other doctors. But he gives me benzos with no problem so I don't argue with him. The meds he gives me mostly I just throw away because I don't want to argue with him.

Let me ask you this, DRich. When you take your dog to the vet, the first thing he asks is "What are you feeding this dog?" When I go to my quack doctor, he has NEVER asked me what I feed myself. How about your doctor? The only thing my doctor says is, "Here, take this prescription and get these pills." He's a freaking drug dealer. QUACK! No better than the a-holes who stand on the corners in the bad neighborhoods. When I try to tell him about some food I found that helps lower my BP or uric acid, etc., he just rolls his eyes and says "Take these pills". There's something wrong with this picture, DRich. Big Pharma, doctors who don't care, there's something wrong with this picture. We can put a man on the moon, but can't stop cancer without poisoning you with, uhh, poison. There's SOMETHING WRONG with Western Medicine. There's big money in keeping people sick.

You've got to take that 188/135 reading seriously. This forum can't handle losing another quality poster. We already lost Nathan.

When I went to Reno last year, the first thing I did was find a sushi joint that had Wakame seaweed. I am not giving medical advice, but for ME, that seaweed lowers my BP. Within an hour. I told my doctor about it, and he rolls his eyes again. The sushi restaurant doesn't give him kickbacks.
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November 22nd, 2019 at 11:31:26 AM permalink
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I've been salting my apple in the morning. Gotta get the numbers up.😀



You're a funny guy, Max. Funny as a heart attack. :-)

Have you tried that pink Himalayan salt?
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November 22nd, 2019 at 11:45:26 AM permalink
I'm a gambler. I'm going to bet right now that no one on this forum, including myself, gets enough potassium and magnesium. That's a secret AP move of mine. And DON'T post it to vpfree.
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November 22nd, 2019 at 12:01:34 PM permalink
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When I went to Reno last year, the first thing I did was find a sushi joint that had Wakame seaweed. I am not giving medical advice, but for ME, that seaweed lowers my BP. Within an hour. I told my doctor about it, and he rolls his eyes again. The sushi restaurant doesn't give him kickbacks.



I am content with who and what I am. I am not going to sacrifice things I like just to live longer. Seaweed?? What is wrong with you? I have not eaten anything green in close to 40 years and I avoid all fruits and vegetables except the bad ones (Corn and Potato).
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November 22nd, 2019 at 12:23:52 PM permalink
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I am content with who and what I am. I am not going to sacrifice things I like just to live longer. Seaweed?? What is wrong with you? I have not eaten anything green in close to 40 years and I avoid all fruits and vegetables except the bad ones (Corn and Potato).




I'll meet you half way. Quinoa. It's delicious.
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November 22nd, 2019 at 12:45:00 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

I am content with who and what I am. I am not going to sacrifice things I like just to live longer. Seaweed?? What is wrong with you? I have not eaten anything green in close to 40 years and I avoid all fruits and vegetables except the bad ones (Corn and Potato).




Ever drink coconut water? Organic, with no added sugar? It is packed with potassium. You can't eat that many bananas. I am not giving medical advice, but you can read all over the internet how potassium and magnesium can balance out or improve blood pressure, getting rid of sodium. Some brands of coconut water taste better than others. Like wine, there are "farmer's reserve" coconut water.
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November 22nd, 2019 at 12:50:36 PM permalink
Bob, are you one of those hipsters? Quinoa and coconut water?
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November 22nd, 2019 at 12:59:37 PM permalink
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Bob, are you one of those hipsters? Quinoa and coconut water?



lol, I'm a fkg square, are you kidding. You're funny, that was a good one.
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November 22nd, 2019 at 1:12:36 PM permalink
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You're a funny guy, Max. Funny as a heart attack. :-)

Have you tried that pink Himalayan salt?



That's the salt I use. My blood pressure has always been on the low side. Recently, past few months, I have sort of went on a health kick. Dropped 40 pounds, eat super clean, minimum 30 minutes cardio per day, and that has driven my heart rate down along with the blood pressure to the 90/60 range. Sometimes 85/55, when it gets down to that area it's time to start salting everything. I have always been a consumer of plenty of salt. I drink a minimum of 12 oz. coconut water a day. Maybe I should give that up.
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November 22nd, 2019 at 1:44:06 PM permalink
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... with the blood pressure to the 90/60 range. Sometimes 85/55,




Omg, you're practically a cadaver.
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November 22nd, 2019 at 1:49:25 PM permalink
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That's the salt I use. My blood pressure has always been on the low side. Recently, past few months, I have sort of went on a health kick. Dropped 40 pounds, eat super clean, minimum 30 minutes cardio per day, and that has driven my heart rate down along with the blood pressure to the 90/60 range. Sometimes 85/55, when it gets down to that area it's time to start salting everything. I have always been a consumer of plenty of salt. I drink a minimum of 12 oz. coconut water a day. Maybe I should give that up.




Have you tried this?

https://drinkc2o.com/product/organic-coconut-water/
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November 22nd, 2019 at 3:58:48 PM permalink
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Ever drink coconut water? Organic, with no added sugar? It is packed with potassium. You can't eat that many bananas. I am not giving medical advice, but you can read all over the internet how potassium and magnesium can balance out or improve blood pressure, getting rid of sodium. Some brands of coconut water taste better than others. Like wine, there are "farmer's reserve" coconut water.



No, the only "healthy" thing I do is drink light beer to chase my whiskey.
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November 22nd, 2019 at 6:32:35 PM permalink
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Have you tried this?

https://drinkc2o.com/product/organic-coconut-water/



I usually stock up on the store brand as long as it does not contain any added sugar and it's labeled organic. Right now I drink a Sprout's brand and/or Smith's Simply Organic.
I won't drink Vita Coco and stuff like that.
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November 22nd, 2019 at 6:38:59 PM permalink
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Omg, you're practically a cadaver.



I used to run about 100/70 until I went on the health kick. I think the health kick did what it does to everyone. Doctor says my blood pressure is great as long as I don't get dizzy. which I don't.
I have a PTSD related GAD which can cause panic attacks which can cause blood pressure spikes. If that happens I can run 150/100 for a few minutes. That level makes me feel all out of sorts. One thing, since the health kick I have not had one anxiety related issue.
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November 22nd, 2019 at 7:55:46 PM permalink
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I usually stock up on the store brand as long as it does not contain any added sugar and it's labeled organic. Right now I drink a Sprout's brand and/or Smith's Simply Organic.
I won't drink Vita Coco and stuff like that.

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November 22nd, 2019 at 8:15:19 PM permalink
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Until you find out what organic actually means.



Care to enlighten us where you are going with this?
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November 22nd, 2019 at 9:04:13 PM permalink
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I used to run about 100/70 until I went on the health kick. I think the health kick did what it does to everyone. Doctor says my blood pressure is great as long as I don't get dizzy. which I don't.
I have a PTSD related GAD which can cause panic attacks which can cause blood pressure spikes. If that happens I can run 150/100 for a few minutes. That level makes me feel all out of sorts. One thing, since the health kick I have not had one anxiety related issue.




That's great, Max, it sounds like you're in pretty good shape. I sympathize with the panic attacks, that's why I don't leave home without Lorazepam. I'm hooked on it, but it's a wonderful drug. I don't know which comes first, panic or blood pressure, it's like the chicken or the egg scenario. I didn't believe in panic attacks, that is until I started having them once I turned 50. They're awful.

That's good to hear, Max, keep up that "health kick". Sounds like positive EV. Best wishes.
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November 23rd, 2019 at 4:50:38 AM permalink
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Care to enlighten us where you are going with this?



Possibly the amazing sham that the word 'organic' has perpetrated.
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November 23rd, 2019 at 5:49:53 AM permalink
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Possibly the amazing sham that the word 'organic' has perpetrated.




What little I know about it, and what little I know about where Axel was going with this, I do know about some of the crap they spray on our agriculture. At the same time, if I were a farmer, and I had a few million dollars worth of crops ready to harvest, and spraying a pesticide was going to make a difference between winning or losing for the season, I would spray. But I wouldn't drink a glass of it to wash down soda crackers. There's all kinds of stuff they spray on conventional crops. Fungicide, thwarts fungus. Pesticide, thwarts pests. Some of it ain't so bad, and some of it you want to stay out of the field for 10 days. Some crops, like celery for instance, you really want to wash the fck out of it before you eat it. And just because the government approves something, doesn't mean ingesting it for the length of your life ain't going to hurt you. I don't trust them.

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November 23rd, 2019 at 6:48:07 AM permalink
The guy who popularized the word "organic" was a health food advocate who died on The Dick Caveat Show. He did his segment, then died of a heart attack on stage during the next interview. He was 72 though.
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November 23rd, 2019 at 7:16:01 AM permalink
Getting back to Mickey. Somewhere up thread someone said he was retiring from full-time play. I wonder what that means? Is he not gonna go to casinos? If he sees some sort of positive EV play, is he not going to play it? Does retiring from full-time play means he's only going to go to the casino six days a week instead of seven? What is he going to do the other days?
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November 23rd, 2019 at 7:27:48 AM permalink
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Getting back to Mickey. Somewhere up thread someone said he was retiring from full-time play. I wonder what that means? Is he not gonna go to casinos? If he sees some sort of positive EV play, is he not going to play it? Does retiring from full-time play means he's only going to go to the casino six days a week instead of seven? What is he going to do the other days?



Maybe there's a spot open for you in Montana, SooPoo. Lovely this time of year.
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November 23rd, 2019 at 8:42:51 AM permalink
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Getting back to Mickey. Somewhere up thread someone said he was retiring from full-time play. I wonder what that means? Is he not gonna go to casinos? If he sees some sort of positive EV play, is he not going to play it? Does retiring from full-time play means he's only going to go to the casino six days a week instead of seven? What is he going to do the other days?



Of course only Mickey knows what that means, but I do know that in the past few years he's been going all over the country to make plays. I was guessing he might be thinking of sticking with plays closer to his area.
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November 23rd, 2019 at 8:57:55 AM permalink
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Getting back to Mickey. Somewhere up thread someone said he was retiring from full-time play. I wonder what that means? Is he not gonna go to casinos? If he sees some sort of positive EV play, is he not going to play it? Does retiring from full-time play means he's only going to go to the casino six days a week instead of seven? What is he going to do the other days?



Didn't he do a fairly long circuit of traveling through Montana to hit all the small places? Sounded kind of arduous.
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November 23rd, 2019 at 12:03:31 PM permalink
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Possibly the amazing sham that the word 'organic' has perpetrated.



Reminds me of how they tag "Gluten Free" on all kinds of stuff that never, ever contained anything that would possibly have gluten in it. Saturated fats, yes. Artificial sugars, yes. Pesticides and preservatives, yes. But, gee, no gluten.

They've made it meaningless.
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November 23rd, 2019 at 12:06:51 PM permalink
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The guy who popularized the word "organic" was a health food advocate who died on The Dick Caveat Show. He did his segment, then died of a heart attack on stage during the next interview. He was 72 though.



You talking about Ewell Gibbons? "Some parts are edible."? Or some other guy?
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November 23rd, 2019 at 12:23:46 PM permalink
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You talking about Ewell Gibbons? "Some parts are edible."? Or some other guy?



Quote:

During his first few years on the air, talk show host Dick Cavett might have imagined his worst moment as a broadcaster would remain the night when actors Peter Falk, Ben Gazzara, and John Cassavetes showed up for a taping drunk and incoherent. Things got so bad that at one point Cavett walked off his own show.

That was September 18, 1970. Less than a year later, Cavett would outdo himself. Interviewing New York Post columnist Pete Hamill, Cavett and his guest stopped
momentarily to regard the odd behavior of the man sitting a few feet away. Jerome Rodale, who had just spent 30 minutes talking to Cavett about the organic food lifestyle he promoted, was snoring loudly.

That was funny only during the brief time it took for Cavett to realize Rodale’s color was pallid and that his head was slumped listlessly against his shoulder. Moments after the 72-year-old had declared he “never felt better in my life,” Rodale was dead, having expired in full view of ABC's cameras.




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Rodale was an early advocate of sustainable agriculture and organic farming in the United States. As an author, his work included several magazines and books, including books featuring different authors, on the subject of health. He popularized the term "organic" as a term for growing food without pesticides. Rodale also published works on other topics, including The Synonym Finder.

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November 23rd, 2019 at 3:01:10 PM permalink
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Getting back to Mickey. Somewhere up thread someone said he was retiring from full-time play. I wonder what that means?

Yeah, I was kind of wondering the same thing.
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November 23rd, 2019 at 9:36:09 PM permalink
Sounds like good news. Mickey's tweet from this afternoon:

"Hot shower today. That was fun. Docs working on removing fluid from lungs then I’m supposed to be good to go."
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November 24th, 2019 at 1:08:09 AM permalink
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Getting back to Mickey. Somewhere up thread someone said he was retiring from full-time play. I wonder what that means? Is he not gonna go to casinos? If he sees some sort of positive EV play, is he not going to play it? Does retiring from full-time play means he's only going to go to the casino six days a week instead of seven? What is he going to do the other days?



My guess is he feels like s@#$ and is all doom and gloom. Once he makes a full recovery he will be right back at it.
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November 24th, 2019 at 4:57:16 AM permalink
Total speculation, but he talked about a route he traveled for a month or two at a time through quite a few states, a couple times a year. Im guessing he's going to eliminate most of that.
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November 24th, 2019 at 6:12:28 AM permalink
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Total speculation, but he talked about a route he traveled for a month or two at a time through quite a few states, a couple times a year. Im guessing he's going to eliminate most of that.



I think it's more of an I've been everywhere thing more than it is a route. I'm sure I missed something.

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November 24th, 2019 at 9:43:21 AM permalink
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November 27th, 2019 at 12:59:53 AM permalink
For those of you who follow Mickey on Twitter, there are two posts that appear recent, within hours, from South Dakota. Unless I don't understand Twitter, which I don't, it would appear that he is out and about. I hope so.
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November 27th, 2019 at 6:20:08 AM permalink
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Unless I don't understand Twitter, which I don't, it would appear that he is out and about.


No sorry, he's neither out nor about. He posted as a reply that the pictures are from some time in the past.

The reason you didn't see the reply is because Twitter didn't think it was relevant to you:

"You will see replies in your Home timeline if you are following both the sender and the recipient of the reply, or if we think the reply is relevant to you. Otherwise, you won't see the reply unless you visit the sender's profile page."

I would have posted here when I saw it ... but I didn't think it was relevant.
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November 27th, 2019 at 6:53:40 AM permalink
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No sorry, he's neither out nor about. He posted as a reply that the pictures are from some time in the past.

The reason you didn't see the reply is because Twitter didn't think it was relevant to you:

"You will see replies in your Home timeline if you are following both the sender and the recipient of the reply, or if we think the reply is relevant to you. Otherwise, you won't see the reply unless you visit the sender's profile page."

I would have posted here when I saw it ... but I didn't think it was relevant.




Aw gee, that's too bad. It's also too bad that I'm too stupid to understand what the average 13 year old already does about tech. However, I did think it was a little early to be running around casino-hopping in South Dakota already. Anyway, thank you, Hugo, for clearing that up for me. I meant well.
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November 27th, 2019 at 8:17:15 AM permalink
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It's also too bad that I'm too stupid to understand what the average 13 year old already does about tech.


We all have our particular areas of excellence. I have a 14 year old nephew who can answer any question about Android phones, but yesterday I sought help from him on proper semicolon usage, and he just shrugged.

Let me rephrase that. Yesterday I sought help from him on proper semicolon usage; he just shrugged.
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