bobbartop
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October 18th, 2019 at 10:19:25 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

Yeah, these paytables i have never seen before now either.

Deuces is "Illinois/LV Airport" except the SF pays 8 for 1.
Bonus Deuces is full pay except the SF pays 7 for 1.
Joker Kings is full pay except full house pays 6 for 1.




I don't see it. Wizard said the Deuces was 98.15, and the Joker 98.41. Just a mistake?
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October 18th, 2019 at 10:25:48 PM permalink
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MSS is the same at quarters except it's 8/6 DDB and 7/5 Bonus.

Does IGT have a patent on the name Double Double Bonus? Why call it Aces Kicker? Sounds dumb to me.




8/6 DDB? Is that correct?

Seems like a reasonable guess your suggestion that IGT might have DDB patented.

I want the patent on "Buffalo". Is "Bison" taken?
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October 18th, 2019 at 10:56:53 PM permalink
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I don't see it. Wizard said the Deuces was 98.15, and the Joker 98.41. Just a mistake?



Deuces might be a typo, it's 98.45%. 98.15% is the payback for 9/6 Triple Double Bonus. Sorry, I mean Super Aces Kicker. Haha

And oops I was wrong about Joker. Quints and Wild Royal are also shorted.

It's 800/150/80/20/6/5/3/2/1/1 = 98.41%.

And yes it's 8/6 DDB (97.89%), not 9/5 DDB (97.87%).

Here's a link to some of the games at Boars Head bar.

https://www.vegasmessageboard.com/forums/index.php?threads/boyd-installing-drink-tracking-at-bar-tops.166882/page-2#post-1917834
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October 19th, 2019 at 1:15:19 AM permalink
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Deuces might be a typo, it's 98.45%. 98.15% is the payback for 9/6 Triple Double Bonus. Sorry, I mean Super Aces Kicker. Haha

And oops I was wrong about Joker. Quints and Wild Royal are also shorted.

It's 800/150/80/20/6/5/3/2/1/1 = 98.41%.

And yes it's 8/6 DDB (97.89%), not 9/5 DDB (97.87%).

Here's a link to some of the games at Boars Head bar.

https://www.vegasmessageboard.com/forums/index.php?threads/boyd-installing-drink-tracking-at-bar-tops.166882/page-2#post-1917834



Thanks for the info. I enjoyed the link, I'll have to start looking at that often. But I swear, I'm so sick of Boyd, what is their freaking problem? Their new and improved slot club sucks. Who makes these kinds of decisions?
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October 19th, 2019 at 7:51:27 AM permalink
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Does IGT have a patent on the name Double Double Bonus? Why call it Aces Kicker? Sounds dumb to me.



Probably a trademark or copyright, not patent-able.
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October 19th, 2019 at 8:59:42 AM permalink
Quote: smoothgrh

my customer loyalty is with IGT.

Interesting, I have never consciously thought about such a thing.
I know I purposely targeted older IGT video slots during certain promotions, but I've certainly never had any loyalty to any one gaming company. This could make an interesting thread on its own.
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October 19th, 2019 at 12:26:05 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Interesting, I have never consciously thought about such a thing.
I know I purposely targeted older IGT video slots during certain promotions, but I've certainly never had any loyalty to any one gaming company. This could make an interesting thread on its own.




It's mainly the look, feel, and sounds of the games that attract me to the older IGT games, including Game King machines. I tried playing Bally Game Maker, but it just didn't "feel" right.

One thing I avoid in slots is when they have the "poker card" symbols: J, Q, K, A. I think it makes a slot game unappealing, and IGT had only a few of those kinds.

Regarding, Double Double Bonus—it might be a game from Action Gaming, which partners with IGT. Action Gaming is the company that developed the Triple Play, Five Play, … Hundred Play family of games. I couldn't find any history about DDB in my exhaustive 2 minutes of searching.
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October 20th, 2019 at 1:12:38 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

Probably a trademark or copyright, not patent-able.



My bad, that's what I meant to say. If it is though, some companies have used it. With permission i assume.
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October 20th, 2019 at 7:43:54 AM permalink
Quote: smoothgrh



Regarding, Double Double Bonus—it might be a game from Action Gaming, which partners with IGT. Action Gaming is the company that developed the Triple Play, Five Play, … Hundred Play family of games. I couldn't find any history about DDB in my exhaustive 2 minutes of searching.



My gut feeling, DDB has been around "forever", and Action Gaming has not.
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October 20th, 2019 at 9:54:27 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

9-6 Double Double Bonus (what they call Aces Kicker)
9-6 Triple Double Bonus (what they call Super Aces Kicker)


For what it is worth, they also have a Trademark on Triple Double Aces Kicker:

https://trademark.trademarkia.com/triple-double-aces-kicker-87501464.html

I wonder if that gave way to the Super Aces Kicker along the way?

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