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October 14th, 2019 at 7:02:11 PM permalink
These machines are starting to pop up in other jurisdictions other than LV, NV as well.
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October 14th, 2019 at 7:14:12 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

Tough to read poker cards with bad sportsbook paytable.



People are up in arms at MSS though as JoB was only set to 9/5 instead of 9/6...lol

But it's only 2 of 16 of the machines, afaik! Also drink meters installed. But calm down people, jeez!


Took me a while to figure out why it says "Jacks or Better" below a BP paytable
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October 14th, 2019 at 8:11:44 PM permalink
I found a few of these games at the Fremont. They were at that main bar, which was mostly Game Kings.

The 25-cent spot keno had a range of return from 90.19% to 90.85%. I added the pay table as "pay table 8" in my spot keno page.

Here was the video poker at the $1 denom:

9-5 Jacks
8-5 Bonus Poker
8-6 Bonus Poker Deluxe
9-6 Double Double Bonus (what they call Aces Kicker)
9-6 Triple Double Bonus (what they call Super Aces Kicker)
25-15-8 Deuces (98.15%)
7-4-4 Bonus Deuces (98.69%)
6-5-3 Joker Poker Kings (98.41%)

There were a couple of keno games I never saw before, which I will soon write about separately.
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October 15th, 2019 at 7:35:37 AM permalink
One of the two other keno games is called Captain Coins and follows the same rules as Cleopatra Keno. The third keno game is called Buffalo Keno and is pretty involved. That one will be a good challenge to analyze. More on that later.
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October 15th, 2019 at 3:06:08 PM permalink
It appears that the new Scientific Gaming bartop machine is a thin client that connects to a gaming server. With that topology I wouldn't expect to see too many of them in the future. It would be cost prohibited to just try one or two of them since you would need to buy the server.
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October 18th, 2019 at 7:15:39 PM permalink
I just got this email advertisement from Atlantis Casino in Reno. Aristocrat is muscling in on IGT's home turf!!!

I've never played a Buffalo slot machineómy customer loyalty is with IGT. But if they appear in enough bartops, I'll probably try one out!

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October 18th, 2019 at 9:14:59 PM permalink
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25-15-8 Deuces (98.15%)
7-4-4 Bonus Deuces (98.69%)
6-5-3 Joker Poker Kings (98.41%)



I can't say that I've ever seen these last three paytables. And I tried to fill in the blanks, I couldn't do it for the Deuces and the Joker games. I didn't spend all night trying to figure it out, but right now I'm stumped.
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October 18th, 2019 at 9:25:36 PM permalink
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I just got this email advertisement from Atlantis Casino in Reno. Aristocrat is muscling in on IGT's home turf!!!

I've never played a Buffalo slot machineómy customer loyalty is with IGT. But if they appear in enough bartops, I'll probably try one out!



Interesting. Also interesting are the downgrades and machine removals Atlantis has made fairly recently in video poker. I thought Atlantis was pretty much king of the good video poker paytables, so some of the downgrades surprised me. Check out "comments" under Atlantis at vpfree2.

Regarding Buffalo, I have never played one either. But I can HEAR them all over the casinos I have been in.

I saw a Buffalo on Mickey's twitter page, figured it must be "playable". Shortly after that, the same game popped up in a nearby casino. Right now I can't remember the name.
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October 18th, 2019 at 9:52:43 PM permalink
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I can't say that I've ever seen these last three paytables. And I tried to fill in the blanks, I couldn't do it for the Deuces and the Joker games. I didn't spend all night trying to figure it out, but right now I'm stumped.



Yeah, these paytables i have never seen before now either.

Deuces is "Illinois/LV Airport" except the SF pays 8 for 1.
Bonus Deuces is full pay except the SF pays 7 for 1.
Joker Kings is full pay except full house pays 6 for 1.

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Quote: smoothgrh

I just got this email advertisement from Atlantis Casino in Reno. Aristocrat is muscling in on IGT's home turf!!!

I've never played a Buffalo slot machineómy customer loyalty is with IGT. But if they appear in enough bartops, I'll probably try one out!



Interesting. Also interesting are the downgrades and machine removals Atlantis has made fairly recently in video poker. I thought Atlantis was pretty much king of the good video poker paytables, so some of the downgrades surprised me. Check out "comments" under Atlantis at vpfree2.

Regarding Buffalo, I have never played one either. But I can HEAR them all over the casinos I have been in.

I saw a Buffalo on Mickey's twitter page, figured it must be "playable". Shortly after that, the same game popped up in a nearby casino. Right now I can't remember the name.



Buffalo Diamond has accumulating free games.
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October 18th, 2019 at 9:54:52 PM permalink
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Here was the video poker at the $1 denom:

9-5 Jacks
8-5 Bonus Poker
8-6 Bonus Poker Deluxe
9-6 Double Double Bonus (what they call Aces Kicker)
9-6 Triple Double Bonus (what they call Super Aces Kicker)
25-15-8 Deuces (98.15%)
7-4-4 Bonus Deuces (98.69%)
6-5-3 Joker Poker Kings (98.41%)



MSS is the same at quarters except it's 8/6 DDB and 7/5 Bonus.

Does IGT have a patent on the name Double Double Bonus? Why call it Aces Kicker? Sounds dumb to me.

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