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January 9th, 2019 at 11:34:48 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

If I am not a professional gambler
Why cant I itemize and deduct my losses



You can, but pros could also deduct expenses for travel, per diem, etc against their winnings. Some of that did change, but those expenses are significant.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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January 9th, 2019 at 11:37:17 AM permalink
I'm not a VP AP. Not at all. But I've often thought that a great countermeasure could involve one that changed the payout percentage based on the SPEED of play. Could such a counter exist to deter an advantage player? It seems as though it would probably be illegal if it did exist.
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January 9th, 2019 at 11:55:23 AM permalink
Quote: Keyser

I'm not a VP AP. Not at all. But I've often thought that a great countermeasure could involve one that changed the payout percentage based on the SPEED of play. Could such a counter exist to deter an advantage player? It seems as though it would probably be illegal if it did exist.



The payout percentage??? Do you mean you'll offer a 100% VP paytable if you play on slowest setting, but if you play on medium or fast, then the paytable would lower to say, 99%? I dont think there is a regulation against this idea, but I doubt any machine on the market can currently do it.

Now if you mean slow down positive video poker machines to yield less hands an hour and therefore a lower expected hourly rate, this definitely does happen in some casinos and is perfectly legal. Speed settings aren't mandated, and many positive games have slower speed settings than average. But I don't think casinos have the capability to selectively slow down play for a certain subset of players.
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January 9th, 2019 at 12:09:48 PM permalink
One of the places I play sort of does that for free play. If you are playing VBJ for $5 a hand, on freeplay, if you win the $5 is credited instantly, but the $5 freeplay is added one cent at a time, significantly slowing down the game. You can barely get four spins a minute. Luckily, the amount of free play I get keeps this from becoming a bigger issue.
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January 9th, 2019 at 1:59:30 PM permalink
A lot of "players" don't deserve good vp opportunities. I cannot count the many many times there has been a very profitable situation, especially at night, and all the wise guys must be home sleeping, at least they're asleep, I don't know where they're sleeping. Maybe they're over at the Gold Coast getting some zzzzz's between hands while grinding 1/2% for quarters, who knows. I am surprised at the proportion of true pros compared to the number of lazy wannabes. Hello! It's not 1996 anymore and this ain't Kansas. As Brit Brit would say, y'gotta work, bitch.
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January 9th, 2019 at 2:02:13 PM permalink
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As Brit Brit would say, y'gotta work, bitch.



And by the way, I never hear Mickey crying about vp being dead. He's not afraid to work, and he's not afraid to use his brain.
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January 9th, 2019 at 2:06:31 PM permalink
Quote: FinsRule

Casinos should be getting rid of AP. They should also be preventing counters from getting advantages.

I understand bemoaning the fact that it is no more, but these are all smart decisions by casinos.




WRONG!!! Wrong on all counts. (I say while clicking the nonexistent dislike button)
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January 9th, 2019 at 2:09:10 PM permalink
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Twin arrows casino in Flagstaff




Yeah, I've looked at their website. It's on my To Do List. Thanks.
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January 9th, 2019 at 5:16:15 PM permalink
Quote: bobbartop

WRONG!!! Wrong on all counts. (I say while clicking the nonexistent dislike button)



Allowing AP play makes no sense on any level for casinos. I have no idea why they allow it. If I owned a casino, Id set every slot, table game and vp to pay 95-99%.

Id offer no free play and only give hotel and buffet comps.
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January 9th, 2019 at 5:50:18 PM permalink
Quote: FinsRule

Allowing AP play makes no sense on any level for casinos. I have no idea why they allow it. If I owned a casino, Id set every slot, table game and vp to pay 95-99%.

Id offer no free play and only give hotel and buffet comps.


I can see why this would be an unpopular opinion at a site like this FR but I agree with you 100% (I say while clicking the nonexistent like button).
It just seems to solve so many problems.
Have you tried 22 tonight? I said 22.

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