Quote: WizardofnothingWas the sale price as discussed or did it go for more?
No comment.
This is a very tricky issue.Quote: WizardLet me ask the forum this. As a preface, it would take me about five years to recoup my investment if I paid to redo WizPoker, assuming the same price of $10. However, I'm afraid everybody who had the old version will hold out his hand and ask me to reimburse him for the cost of the update. Even if I gave a discount to people who had the first version, which there is almost no way to verify, it would stretch out the break-even point to where it isn't profitable for me to re-release it.
That said, will I look like a cheap bastard if I refuse to give reimbursements or discounts to existing users or will the public understand the situation I'm in and pay for the new version. It's only $10, for crying out loud.
I started buying software for the Mac in the 1980s. Even though I agree with the "If I buy program X, it should keep working for life.", that's not the way it works ... for cost reasons.
(1) Microsoft Office for Mac - Only thing I use these days is the spreadsheet. Purchased three times - Original, Office v.X, Office 2011. The upgrade fee was so high, buying a newer version was cheaper.
I think I got a recent message that "Office for Mac 2011" for will no longer be supported.
Unsure about the "cloud" versions & using Google Docs - I do a lot of stuff off-line & unsure how well the off-line stubs work. Also, don't know how fancy formatting will translate from Excel files into Google Docs files.
I use spreadsheets so much...that I resigned myself to the reality that the $100-150 purchase price buys me a product for 10-12 years...not lifetime.
(2) StuffIt Deluxe - I compress a small folder of important files & e-mail it to myself as additional on-line backup. Purchased 3 or 4 times - 1987 shareware, repurchased commercially, and $20(?) upgrade(s). I haven't used it since 2013, switching to the free iZip compressor. zip & tar are built-in on unix-based Macs.
StuffitIt Deluxe is in version 12, and it only has free upgrades within one version. 11 upgrade fees (every two years) to keep current? Upgrade fee is now $30 ($50 new). $30 x 11 = $330. Nope. I was willing to pay $10-20 once or twice to support a good company, but $330???? Nix, Nada.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StuffIt
(3) Office for Mac is the ONLY paid software I use anymore. I use Vanilla Macs/iPods, customized as little as possible. Repurchasing software every 3-5-8 years, is not worth it for me. An entire new iPod is only about $200-250.
Online, my Yahoo $20/yr e-mail (I paid for POP, but now use IMAP) became free years ago due to competition from Gmail & decreasing storage costs in the cloud. I pay $0.99/month for extra iCloud storage (Used to pay $20/yr for Picasa image storage, but storage costs dropped).
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I used to design & sell software in the 1980s. There are 2 huge costs which are not obvious until you develop & sell software.
(1) support costs - I can see why many companies make it near impossible to reach a live person, or do not respond well to e-mail requests for help. It's damned expensive, and some people are being cheap.
On the flip side. Good service is worth paying for!!
Mac's Apple Store & Genius Bar are a great idea. It's why I pay MORE for Macs, than for PCs. Maybe once every 1-2 years, I get some problem which I just can't figure out...and the phone support & "Genius Bar" rock.
On a PC, I might be paying $100-200/visit, and I'd have to search each time for a good person to help me. Mac's Apple Store & Genius Bar are a no-brainer, even overseas (Used them often in England. P.S. Do not use power adapters on a Mac in England. Buy the Apple British power cord.)
(2) upgrade costs - keeping up with changing OSs is a PITA.
Quote: mamat(1) Microsoft Office for Mac - Only thing I use these days is the spreadsheet. Purchased three times - Original, Office v.X, Office 2011. The upgrade fee was so high, buying a newer version was cheaper.
I think I got a recent message that "Office for Mac 2011" for will no longer be supported.
Unsure about the "cloud" versions & using Google Docs - I do a lot of stuff off-line & unsure how well the off-line stubs work. Also, don't know how fancy formatting will translate from Excel files into Google Docs files.
Have you considered something like OpenOffice / LibreOffice? It's only a pain if you need to be 100% Word or Excel compatible.
I haven't seen the absolute latest versions of Word or OpenOffice, but LibreOffice has a feature Word didn't have in the past - the ability to create PDFs.
Quote: DRichHopefully Josh will release it as a free app with links and referrals to help build his brand.
That may be his plan. Not my concern any longer. I'm sure he will do a lot better with it than I did.
Quote: DRichCongratulations Wizard, I am happy to hear that Josh is going to update your app and that you will recoup a little of your investment. I believe that today your app is still the most I have ever paid for an app. Hopefully Josh will release it as a free app with links and referrals to help build his brand.
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if the price tag turned others off unfortunately. Many apps are either free, or a couple bucks a pop. Of course, winPoker is $10 too.
Quote: WizardCan you remind me what they are?
It sounds like you don't really care any more and I can't remember myself but it seemed like the settings were not having any effect. It was a very obvious bug that would certainly be discovered when testing the new app.
Quote: Mikey75In my opinion the $10 price tag is a little high but until the wizard app is back online this is probably the best you can get for a trainer.
Not picking you out specifically, because many people feel this way about mobile apps. It’s challenging for developers because mobile apps are often more labor intensive to create and maintain, and then Google/Apple app stores take their cut.
On Windows, WinPoker is $30, and Video Poker For Winners is $50.
For Blackjack, Casino Verite is $50-$100++.
All of these create real value for the player. I think $10 is s very fair price.
Quote: gamerfreakNot picking you out specifically, because many people feel this way about mobile apps. It’s challenging for developers because mobile apps are often more labor intensive to create and maintain, and then Google/Apple app stores take their cut.
On Windows, WinPoker is $30, and Video Poker For Winners is $50.
For Blackjack, Casino Verite is $50-$100++.
All of these create real value for the player. I think $10 is s very fair price.
Yes in respect to the price of the computer version is it reasonable. Of course it doesn't have all the features of the computer version but it does have the most important ones. You can download games for free ( of course they are add supported) that have way better graphics. After playing with it for a few hours I'd rate it a solid 4 out of 5. Of course I can only really compare it to the Wizards app which I do prefer over Winpoker. I will most likely purchase Wizards app again when it is released even if it's $10 to. I personally like it that much better than Winpoker. Maybe it's just me but some of the features have been hard to figure out. When selecting a game it will tell you the payback % of the game and there is a place you can change the paytables. I still haven't found a way to look at the paytables. Maybe I'm missing that.
Quote: Mikey75Yes in respect to the price of the computer version is it reasonable. Of course it doesn't have all the features of the computer version but it does have the most important ones. You can download games for free ( of course they are add supported) that have way better graphics. After playing with it for a few hours I'd rate it a solid 4 out of 5. Of course I can only really compare it to the Wizards app which I do prefer over Winpoker. I will most likely purchase Wizards app again when it is released even if it's $10 to. I personally like it that much better than Winpoker. Maybe it's just me but some of the features have been hard to figure out. When selecting a game it will tell you the payback % of the game and there is a place you can change the paytables. I still haven't found a way to look at the paytables. Maybe I'm missing that.
None of the free ones win fancy graphics I’ve seen have had decent training modes.
On iOS winpoker, you can change the pay table by hitting games from the main playing screen, and tapping “Add paytable to selected game”.
Quote: gamerfreakNone of the free ones win fancy graphics I’ve seen have had decent training modes.
On iOS winpoker, you can change the pay table by hitting games from the main playing screen, and tapping “Add paytable to selected game”.
No none of the free ones give decent advice on play. I went like I was going to change a paytables and I was able to see the pay table I was currently playing there. I do like the way it keeps statistics. Sure gives you a idea of how big swings can be on a 100% machine. I'm playing with the trainer on so I'm playing 100% correct. I'm down $585.25 so far. I guess the only thing that could bring me back to even is to hit a royal. I've yet to hit a royal in real play or on a vp game.
Quote: smoothgrhI (and others, probably) are being the cheap bastards and just not updating from iOS 10. Though I'm also fearful other paid apps won't work, not just VPW.
Here's a nice discovery: I don't have to worry about my Video Poker Wizard app not working on my iPad 4 because the iPad is not compatible with iOS 11. It'll always be on iOS 10, happily running the Wizard's app.
For iPhone users, if you have an iPhone 5 (not 5s) or slightly older, it's the same situation: As long as you have the app in your iTunes library, you'll always be able to use it. You might not be able to use your iPhone to make phone calls, but I use old iPhones as a spare camera or music player or video poker strategy guide!
http://realizegamingllc.com/dev/mdPoker99/
Forum link
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/video-poker/29531-multidraw-demo-looking-for-vp-feedback/3/#post610341
Edit: It does the same thing with ace jack unsuited. One time it will say the best play is just the ace the next time it will say the best play is the ace jack. This is when both cards are unsuited. Is this a glitch in the program or is there something that I am missing?
Quote: Mikey75I'm not sure if I should post this here or start another thread. I'll post it here first and see if I get a answer. I'm playing Double Bonus Poker on the WinPoker app. Sometimes when I draw ace king unsuited the correct play says to just hold the ace. Sometimes it says the correct play is to hold the ace and king. This is really confusing me because I don't understand why it says to hold one time and not the other. Can anyone give me any insite to this?
Edit: It does the same thing with ace jack unsuited. One time it will say the best play is just the ace the next time it will say the best play is the ace jack. This is when both cards are unsuited. Is this a glitch in the program or is there something that I am missing?
Most likely one or more of the other three cards are penalty cards.
Take for instance these two hands in 9/6 JoB: K♠️ T♠️ 9♦️6♥️ 2♠️ and K♠️ T♠️ 8♦️ 6♥️ 2♠️. In the first one, you hold just the K♠️. In the second, you hold K♠️ T♠️.
Quote: IbeatyouracesMost likely one or more of the other three cards are penalty cards.
Take for instance these two hands in 9/6 JoB: K♠️ T♠️ 9♦️6♥️ 2♠️ and K♠️ T♠️ 8♦️ 6♥️ 2♠️. In the first one, you hold just the K♠️. In the second, you hold K♠️ T♠️.
Thanks for your reply. So the 9♦️ Is the penalty card for the first hand? I greatly appreciate you helping me to understand this. I knew there was something that I was overlooking.
Quote: WizardSo, the new version should be ready for purchase in early 2018.
Has the updated app been released, understanding we are not yet out of 'early 2018'?
Also, does anyone know if the plan for the app is to be iPad compatible? As I am not much of a play games on my phone's screen kind of guy.
Thanks,
Quote: IndyJeffrey
Also, does anyone know if the plan for the app is to be iPad compatible? As I am not much of a play games on my phone's screen kind of guy.
If you bought the original Video Poker Wizard app and have it in your iTunes library, you could buy an old iPad (iPad 4 or earlier), and the app will work on that iPad.
If you have Android, there's playperfect.
Quote: rsactuaryThere's WinPoker which has served me well for years.
If you have Android, there's playperfect.
Do you know if WinPoker has Triple Double Bonus?
Quote: SteverinosDo you know if WinPoker has Triple Double Bonus?
yes it does, plus you can program the paytable as needed
The new Video Poker Wizard for iPhone is severely flawed. I want my $10 back!
For years, I deferred upgrading to iOS 11 and 12 *solely* because of the old VPW app, which was great; small, fast, and accurate. It is one of my all-time favorite apps and the only app I have paid more than $0.99 for. Well worth it.
The new one is an abomination. Most of the values are wrong (FP JOB returns 0.9954%? Really!?). Initial startup and games take forever to load. Most importantly, the app crashes everytime I try to use it, so it is functionally worthless!
Mike, I know you said wash your hands of this, but I am very disappointed in this product, especially after how good the first one was. I'd give anything to have that one back, but it's now gone from my phone's hard drive, never to return. I'm hoping somebody from Ample Chance/WoV will contact me regarding this so I don't have to go through my credit card company or Apple for a refund.
I never updated my iPad past ios10 so that the original VPWizard keeps running. I'd buy the new one if it's similar to the old one.