bobbartop
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May 17th, 2017 at 11:53:54 PM permalink
Ok, I've only been playing video poker for about 20 years, so yes, I know this is a stupid question. But looking stupid has never stopped me from anything before.

Is there a difference between Sequential Royal, and Reversible Royal? Obviously, Reversible Royal can be both ways. I'm not THAT stupid. But what if a machine only says Sequential Royal? Is it both ways? Is it just one way? If it's just one way, which way is that?

Thanks.
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May 18th, 2017 at 1:49:12 AM permalink
Quote: bobbartop

Ok, I've only been playing video poker for about 20 years, so yes, I know this is a stupid question. But looking stupid has never stopped me from anything before.

Is there a difference between Sequential Royal, and Reversible Royal? Obviously, Reversible Royal can be both ways. I'm not THAT stupid. But what if a machine only says Sequential Royal? Is it both ways? Is it just one way? If it's just one way, which way is that?

Thanks.




Never mind, and yes, it was a stupid question. All I had to do was google it and it came up on Wizard of Odds. duh! Sequential is one way, 10 to Ace, left to right. Thanks WoO.
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May 18th, 2017 at 2:00:02 AM permalink
I asked this question near six months ago. My issue was the machine not even defining what a sequential royal was, but common knowledge of the members said only T,J,Q,K,A was a sequential royal. A point was made that none of the hands were defined, but that's something most people know from card games, and order of the cards never mattered. Reversible is backwards A,K,Q,J,T. I believed even J,Q,K,A,T was a sequential royal, but I was the only one to think so. If you play a machine like that, you can talk to gaming if a royal comes up in some kind of sequential order and make a case. The reason why a single sentence wasn't included, don't know, maybe gaming originally required glassware to state so, but had been forgotten, taken for granted, or maybe there never was a reason.
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May 18th, 2017 at 3:30:08 AM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

The reason why a single sentence wasn't included, don't know, maybe gaming originally required glassware to state so, but had been forgotten, taken for granted, or maybe there never was a reason.

Slightly off-track, but I like being able to read all the rules on the big screen, multi-seat video blackjack games.

There can be a surprising difference in the BJ pay-out even with-in the same casino from game to game ( Mirage ). I assume they are doing some sort of trial to see which version is most popular, and whether anyone even cares about the difference between 3:2 and 6:5 and 1:1.
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May 18th, 2017 at 4:49:33 AM permalink
Unless it specifically says otherwise (as it does on some Bally machines) a Sequential Royal is both ways.
"Reversible Royal" is actually a trademark of the "Stations" casino group.

Note: I am the vpfree2 monitor for Rivers (Des Plaines IL) and Majestic Star (Gary IN). The latter still has two of the Bally games with the one way Sequential and they are AKQJT though I remember playing some IGT games 25 years ago where it was TJQKA. The Majestic Star used to have one $1 and one $5 game with the two way version. (These were IGT products.) I think Hollywood Joliet (IL) still has this at the 25c level. (I once saw the $1 version of this hit and it was AKQJT. The player caught the K on the draw. One slightly unethical thing was that this machine also had a normal RF progressive and it reset after this RF even though the Sequential RF was a fixed $50000.)
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May 20th, 2017 at 1:46:22 AM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

I believed even J,Q,K,A,T was a sequential royal, but I was the only one to think so.


Why did you consider that to be sequential?
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May 20th, 2017 at 3:06:10 AM permalink
Quote: BlueEagle

Why did you consider that to be sequential?



Because it "wraps around". From card #5, #1, #2, #3, #4 is TJQKA.

But I don't think you'd have a shot in hell at winning that case with gaming. Only possible way to win, IMO, is either:

-Sequential royal is vaguely defined but not specifically defined, such that JQKAT meets the criteria but nothing in the definition excludes it. If it is specifically defined as TJQKA and/or AKQJT, it doesn't meet that criteria so you're done. If it's not defined whatsoever, I'd think gaming/casino would (rightfully) claim it's essentially common knowledge a sequential RF is TJQKA or AKQJT.

-Some freak accident....like there's some beef between the gaming commission and the casino and gaming retaliates against the casino by siding with you.
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