(1) $0.20/coin x 5 coins x 1 hand = $1.00
(2) $0.05/coin x 5 coins x 4 hands = $1.00
The variance for CASE (1) is 19.5, Return = 99.54% with perfect strategy
What is the variance for CASE (2) ?
Quote: ssho88Anyone can help me on this :-
(1) $0.20/coin x 5 coins x 1 hand = $1.00
(2) $0.05/coin x 5 coins x 4 hands = $1.00
The variance for CASE (1) is 19.5, Return = 99.54% with perfect strategy
What is the variance for CASE (2) ?
The variance is about 25.
Quote: chaunceyb3The variance is about 25.
Most people told me that the variance is lower but I disagree.
How to calculate it ? Simulation ?
Quote: ssho88Most people told me that the variance is lower but I disagree.
How to calculate it ? Simulation ?
If you go to www.jazbo.com choose the "N-play Bankroll" on the left and it will explain it.
Quote: DRichIf you go to www.jazbo.com choose the "N-play Bankroll" on the left and it will explain it.
That 4 hands are not independent !
Quote: ssho88That 4 hands are not independent !
Spin Poker?
Quote: ssho88That 4 hands are not independent !
How so?
Quote: rsactuaryHow so?
The only thing I can think of is my answer above.
Quote: ssho88That 4 hands are not independent !
But in my example the total bet for case 1 and case 2 are the same. Have you consider this factor ?
Quote: IbeatyouracesIf drawn cards can reappear on subsequent hands, they are independent, As in 3/5/10 play. If they can't, as in Spin Poker, they are dependant. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Agree with this.
SSho88.. each hand in JoB (excluding Spin Poker) uses a fresh deck.
Quote: IbeatyouracesIf drawn cards can reappear on subsequent hands, they are independent, As in 3/5/10 play. If they can't, as in Spin Poker, they are dependant. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
They're dependent, since each hand (in 3/5/10 play) is drawn out from the same starting position [held cards].
Quote: RSThey're dependent, since each hand (in 3/5/10 play) is drawn out from the same starting position [held cards].
But not the drawn cards. The same card can be drawn in each hand which makes it independent. In SP, if a certain card is drawn in one column, it can't be in a later column.
Quote: IbeatyouracesQuote: RSThey're dependent, since each hand (in 3/5/10 play) is drawn out from the same starting position [held cards].
But not the drawn cards. The same card can be drawn in each hand which makes it independent. In SP, if a certain card is drawn in one column, it can't be in a later column.
The held cards are dependent and drawn cards are independent, so 4 hands are dependent.
The total betting amount is $1 for both case 1 and case 2, my question is which have lower variance ?
Quote: ssho88Quote: IbeatyouracesQuote: RSThey're dependent, since each hand (in 3/5/10 play) is drawn out from the same starting position [held cards].
But not the drawn cards. The same card can be drawn in each hand which makes it independent. In SP, if a certain card is drawn in one column, it can't be in a later column.
The held cards are dependent and drawn cards are independent, so 4 hands are dependent.
The total betting amount is $1 for both case 1 and case 2, my question is which have lower variance ?
You didn't indicate in your initial post that it was n-play. I understood your situation for (2) in your OP to be... insert 5 coins, play 1 hand, insert 5 coin, play 1 hand, etc.. 4 times in total.
Did you mean insert 20 coins and play 1 4 handed game?
Quote: IbeatyouracesQuote: RSThey're dependent, since each hand (in 3/5/10 play) is drawn out from the same starting position [held cards].
But not the drawn cards. The same card can be drawn in each hand which makes it independent. In SP, if a certain card is drawn in one column, it can't be in a later column.
No. That doesn't make it independent. The variance in VP comes from the deal, not the draw.
OTOH, now I'm Jonesing to go play SP on videopoker.com.
PBBbbbttt. (HE's back!!!! Berkeley Breathed is re-starting Bloom County!) Yay!! So expect more aacks and Pbbbbttts from me.
Quote: beachbumbabshighly doubt ss will be more specific.
OTOH, now I'm Jonesing to go play SP on videopoker.com.
PBBbbbttt. (HE's back!!!! Berkeley Breathed is re-starting Bloom County!) Yay!! So expect more aacks and Pbbbbttts from me.
Get "VP Pocket" from the app store.
Quote: beachbumbabsOTOH, now I'm Jonesing to go play SP on videopoker.com.
Can't stand spin poker... just me.
Quote: rsactuaryCan't stand spin poker... just me.
I try not to play SP, but will if I have to.
Damn game is impossible to tell suits apart. :(
On the bright side, I have hit some pretty big hands on SP. perhaps I'll post one to the jackpot thread.