Barnyard Poker
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July 6th, 2015 at 9:28:54 PM
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I just finished a first draft on a page on Barnyard Poker.
The rules are a bit hard to explain, but basically every time the player is dealt a pair or better on the deal he adds to two banks of multipliers, which are randomly awarded at the start of each hand. I have yet to actually see the game. The website for the Suncoast casino, near where I live, claims to have it, but I can't find it anywhere. Have you seen it and if so, where?
The question for the poll is would you play Barnyard Poker?
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
July 6th, 2015 at 9:30:28 PM
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There's a full version on videopoker.com. It's ok, but doesn't feel all that random on awarding the bonus multipliers.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
July 6th, 2015 at 9:33:13 PM
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Quote: beachbumbabsThere's a full version on videopoker.com. It's ok, but doesn't feel all that random on awarding the bonus multipliers.
That is how I know the game too. The probability of being awarded the multipliers is positively correlated to the size of the multipliers, but I don't know the exact formula.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
July 6th, 2015 at 9:50:42 PM
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A lot of the new multiplay variants have been additional coins for more variance, is this the players demanding more volatility in the games or is this the casinos wanting more volatility?
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July 6th, 2015 at 9:55:28 PM
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Quote: djatcA lot of the new multiplay variants have been additional coins for more variance, is this the players demanding more volatility in the games or is this the casinos wanting more volatility?
Casinos loathe volatility. However, at the low denominations, they don't really care and it is a matter of giving the players what they want. It would seem from both video poker and reeled slots, with stacked wilds, that volatility is what they want.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
July 6th, 2015 at 11:09:26 PM
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I don't think the casinos mind Volatility with a 13%+ advantage and tons of action.Quote: WizardCasinos loathe volatility. However, at the low denominations, they don't really care and it is a matter of giving the players what they want. It would seem from both video poker and reeled slots, with stacked wilds, that volatility is what they want.
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July 6th, 2015 at 11:33:31 PM
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A couple of things...
The average increment per hand is 2.54 and per increment is 5.09.
Do you mean...
The average multiplier increment per hand played is 2.54 and the average multiplier increment per award is 5.09.
Also, not sure what happened with the formatting of the IGT data, but the base return percentages don't match up with the paytables correctly for many games. And I see no full pay tables at all. :'(
The average increment per hand is 2.54 and per increment is 5.09.
Do you mean...
The average multiplier increment per hand played is 2.54 and the average multiplier increment per award is 5.09.
Also, not sure what happened with the formatting of the IGT data, but the base return percentages don't match up with the paytables correctly for many games. And I see no full pay tables at all. :'(
July 7th, 2015 at 12:41:45 AM
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Yes, pay tables seem off. For example, JoB 7/5 and 6/5 tables are identicle.
I voted "yes," but it would probably be just one time for a lark. And involve some scotch.
I voted "yes," but it would probably be just one time for a lark. And involve some scotch.
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July 7th, 2015 at 4:13:10 AM
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I think most gamblers like volatility. You generally see people playing stuff like Super Double Mega Triple Triple Ultra Bonus Deluxe Wild Bonus games, where it seems like the only way to win is to get dealt four aces with a 2 of spades with a full moon during the summer solstice....everything else pays 0.
I've never played barnyard poker, and doesn't seem to be free on VP.com...so I really don't know. But given the limited explanation, I probably wouldn't play it in a serious or regular setting, since it sounds pretty retarded to me. But I'd perhaps give it a shot for nickels or even quarters if I see it, just to give it a whirl and test the waters.
Plus, I hate farms and barns and animals like that. Except pigs....pigs can be pretty cool.
I've never played barnyard poker, and doesn't seem to be free on VP.com...so I really don't know. But given the limited explanation, I probably wouldn't play it in a serious or regular setting, since it sounds pretty retarded to me. But I'd perhaps give it a shot for nickels or even quarters if I see it, just to give it a whirl and test the waters.
Plus, I hate farms and barns and animals like that. Except pigs....pigs can be pretty cool.
July 7th, 2015 at 6:30:11 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfI don't think the casinos mind Volatility with a 13%+ advantage and tons of action.
Ask what is the max bet a multi-billion dollar casino will take on the tie bet in baccarat. You will be surprised how low it is.
Quote: tringlomaneThe average increment per hand is 2.54 and per increment is 5.09.
Do you mean...
The average multiplier increment per hand played is 2.54 and the average multiplier increment per award is 5.09.
Yes.
Quote:Also, not sure what happened with the formatting of the IGT data, but the base return percentages don't match up with the paytables correctly for many games. And I see no full pay tables at all. :'(
Thanks. Formatting error. Just fixed it.
Quote: RSI've never played barnyard poker, and doesn't seem to be free on VP.com
You have to be gold level to play it.
Quote:Plus, I hate farms and barns and animals like that. Except pigs....pigs can be pretty cool.
I can't say that I've ever been on a farm in my life. So the farm theme doesn't do much for me either. I would prefer to play something like Hot Roll Poker where it is more transparent how the multipliers are awarded.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
July 7th, 2015 at 2:31:28 PM
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I played this at VP.com and there was one aspect of it I never quite figured out.
Occasionally the barnyard animal, perhaps only the pig, would turn gold. I also recall that occasionally I would get another bonus immediately after I just had one, and not for just 1X on each line. I think the two may be related, but I never paid much attention to it.
Occasionally the barnyard animal, perhaps only the pig, would turn gold. I also recall that occasionally I would get another bonus immediately after I just had one, and not for just 1X on each line. I think the two may be related, but I never paid much attention to it.
July 7th, 2015 at 2:43:22 PM
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Quote: HullabalooI played this at VP.com and there was one aspect of it I never quite figured out.
Occasionally the barnyard animal, perhaps only the pig, would turn gold. I also recall that occasionally I would get another bonus immediately after I just had one, and not for just 1X on each line. I think the two may be related, but I never paid much attention to it.
Once a multiplier bank bursts and is awarded on the 3 lines, the reset values are either 3X or 15X (randomly). If it's 15X, the animal starts off coated in gold.
Again, there are installations in the East Coast, and this game is very vulture-friendly. You probably will find 12X all 3 lines often if you are the only one looking.
July 21st, 2015 at 6:34:31 AM
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Quote: Wizard
Available on West Coast - at least 2 casinos. Arrived 2-3 months ago.
From player gossip, not available yet in Las Vegas (and I haven't personally seen it yet in my visits).
On my first hand, dealt pair, and got 5x Full House (just missed 5x 4oak for $1,300).
August 3rd, 2015 at 2:56:03 AM
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I have played it at Gold Coast where denoms start at 2c then 5c,10c,25c , Palace Station 5c, 10c ,25c and Suncoast 5c 10c 25c. A lot of "ifs" If you find a double digit multiplier, if you are dealt pairs and if you hit on the multiplier it can be fun for a few minutes.
I played 50 points on it to receive a buffet at Suncoast but lost way too much. On the 2c at GC I was dealt three of a kind and hit the quad on a 5x for $40.
It is definitely a good addition to the casino floor but if you sit and play for a long period it will clean you out.
I played 50 points on it to receive a buffet at Suncoast but lost way too much. On the 2c at GC I was dealt three of a kind and hit the quad on a 5x for $40.
It is definitely a good addition to the casino floor but if you sit and play for a long period it will clean you out.
August 3rd, 2015 at 7:56:00 AM
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Quote: stephen.hallI have played it at Gold Coast where denoms start at 2c then 5c,10c,25c , Palace Station 5c, 10c ,25c and Suncoast 5c 10c 25c. A lot of "ifs" If you find a double digit multiplier, if you are dealt pairs and if you hit on the multiplier it can be fun for a few minutes.
I played 50 points on it to receive a buffet at Suncoast but lost way too much. On the 2c at GC I was dealt three of a kind and hit the quad on a 5x for $40.
It is definitely a good addition to the casino floor but if you sit and play for a long period it will clean you out.
Stephen,
Welcome to the forum, and thanks very much for the info!
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
August 3rd, 2015 at 8:56:00 AM
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Quote: beachbumbabsStephen,
Welcome to the forum, and thanks very much for the info!
+1
And now I'll have to try this game.
August 4th, 2015 at 1:51:47 AM
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Quote: tringlomane+1
And now I'll have to try this game.
Thank you both. The game seems moderately popular at the Gold Coast. Since they have lots of 3 way action poker there they probably attract VP players looking for something a little different.
October 4th, 2015 at 10:22:35 AM
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I played this a little bit at Turtle Creek. They have 2 machines. And yes I did look for high multipliers in the banks first :-)
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October 4th, 2015 at 3:56:01 PM
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1 machine at the Cosmopolitan. I played it for a long time. A bunch of Ultimate X's too. Easy vulturing on a busy night.
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October 4th, 2015 at 4:52:53 PM
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Quote: Zcore131 machine at the Cosmopolitan. I played it for a long time. A bunch of Ultimate X's too. Easy vulturing on a busy night.
ZCore13
And who says casino employees/management can't be AP's :-)
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October 4th, 2015 at 4:55:43 PM
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Quote: IbeatyouracesAnd who says casino employees/management can't be AP's :-)
Throw in the must hit machines and the quick hit machines that are fairly predictable and you could stay busy all night. :)
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October 4th, 2015 at 5:16:09 PM
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Wish I could find predictable must hits/ what casinos have them?
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October 4th, 2015 at 5:56:06 PM
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The Reserve in Blackhawk, CO has a bank of Barnyard. Didn't even think about vulturing them. Must remember that.
October 4th, 2015 at 6:07:45 PM
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Vukturing this game is only marginally profitable and the swings are absolutely huge as far as vulturing goes. And you must play full wager unlike ux so you are basically leaving ev on the table constantly
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October 4th, 2015 at 6:08:32 PM
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The real question is, what numbers do they need to be to be worth playing off? Remember, unlike UX, you MUST BET 15+15 to be awarded any multipliers in this game.
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October 4th, 2015 at 6:12:48 PM
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Correct and just because the multipliers are right doesn't mean they burst
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October 4th, 2015 at 6:27:30 PM
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I was kind of hoping I was the only one who knew about this game. There are many games like this one to varying degrees. They are immensely profitable once you reach a certain point, the problem is getting them at that point.
Like all vulturable VP games, getting dealt something or hitting something is "important" so that one's a no brainer. I've had thousands of giant UX hands blank me without hesitation, so this one is truly no different. Like mentioned, you do have to bet 15+15 on 3 play vs. 15 on any other vulturable VP game, so the swings are definitely larger, but because the value of the "point" on these games is so high, the swings deaden over time and come into line, similar to how most other VP machines work.
Most people I've seen try to "hustle" or "Vulture" them, take them wayyyyyyyyyy too early and end up having to go several hands before "popping" the multipliers.
A double digit multiplier is nothing, really. You're dividing that multiplier by the three hands, so a 15x on the right or left side of the game, only equates to a 5x/hand affair in which you're already buying into for 15+15 on every deal. If you have to deal it more than twice, you've already essentially wiped out all of your +EV so be careful. Best to leave these machines and multipliers alone if you're a "vulture" or "hustler" that doesn't have a deep bankroll and/or solid understanding of how the game itself works, and flawless strategy on each VP game.
Like all vulturable VP games, getting dealt something or hitting something is "important" so that one's a no brainer. I've had thousands of giant UX hands blank me without hesitation, so this one is truly no different. Like mentioned, you do have to bet 15+15 on 3 play vs. 15 on any other vulturable VP game, so the swings are definitely larger, but because the value of the "point" on these games is so high, the swings deaden over time and come into line, similar to how most other VP machines work.
Most people I've seen try to "hustle" or "Vulture" them, take them wayyyyyyyyyy too early and end up having to go several hands before "popping" the multipliers.
A double digit multiplier is nothing, really. You're dividing that multiplier by the three hands, so a 15x on the right or left side of the game, only equates to a 5x/hand affair in which you're already buying into for 15+15 on every deal. If you have to deal it more than twice, you've already essentially wiped out all of your +EV so be careful. Best to leave these machines and multipliers alone if you're a "vulture" or "hustler" that doesn't have a deep bankroll and/or solid understanding of how the game itself works, and flawless strategy on each VP game.
October 4th, 2015 at 7:18:29 PM
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I've never seen a good multiplier on these games, but then again I don't scout them thoroughly. WoN is right, you're constantly leaving EV as you have to max bet it, so even if you found a good play you have to know when you stop playing. I'm assuming you need an extremely high multiplier (20x+) to make it worth while.
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October 4th, 2015 at 9:00:48 PM
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9x 6x is currently the lowest I'll play on 5c or 10c. I'm not thoroughly convinced one way or another what the breakeven point is yet so I "test" it at the lower denominations. 25c or higher i need better.
October 4th, 2015 at 9:38:03 PM
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I just don't think the edge is anywhere near what people think/ even with 18x or more in both sides you are betting double what your normally would thus making a 12x multiplier into a 6x. Then one extra pull and you have half of that value I see multipliers on these all the time and they are worthless not to mention how bad the payables are
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October 5th, 2015 at 11:48:08 AM
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Quote: rudeboyoi9x 6x is currently the lowest I'll play on 5c or 10c. I'm not thoroughly convinced one way or another what the breakeven point is yet so I "test" it at the lower denominations. 25c or higher i need better.
If what you're referring to is 9x on one side and 6x on the other, you're going to lose a lot of money on those. The base game starts at 3x.
October 24th, 2015 at 2:19:21 AM
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Barnyard at 6 casinos now in CA (2 each). North - Cache Creek, Thunder Valley, Red Hawk. South - Pala, Barona, Viejas
They were great 4 months ago when few people knew about them, but they are common knowledge among most APs now and the days of loaded machines are over (Red Hawk might be the one exception, Red Hawk & Barona just got them last month).
People do leave 30X 24X and other high combos occasionally.
Would love to see someone do an analysis of start points.
I've experimented with going very low (total 12X-13X), and moved back up.
Unbalanced pairs are easier to play than even pairs.
....haven't tried the pay version on videopoker.com
The main difference between APs right now is probably start points.
They were great 4 months ago when few people knew about them, but they are common knowledge among most APs now and the days of loaded machines are over (Red Hawk might be the one exception, Red Hawk & Barona just got them last month).
People do leave 30X 24X and other high combos occasionally.
Would love to see someone do an analysis of start points.
I've experimented with going very low (total 12X-13X), and moved back up.
Unbalanced pairs are easier to play than even pairs.
....haven't tried the pay version on videopoker.com
The main difference between APs right now is probably start points.
November 2nd, 2015 at 8:20:48 PM
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Barnyard is still rare in Vegas. Saw them in 2 casinos out of 18. (All .05/.10/.25). Pala (San Diego) has $1.
Only 1 play. Very empty. Made $3.
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Overall up +2K on Barnyard since July.
More profitable/machine than UX, but UX has 1000s of machines and higher denoms ($5, $10).
Only 1 play. Very empty. Made $3.
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Overall up +2K on Barnyard since July.
More profitable/machine than UX, but UX has 1000s of machines and higher denoms ($5, $10).
November 2nd, 2015 at 8:24:45 PM
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You are up 2k on barnyard? Not to question you but at those denoms and given the fact that any multiplier really only has half the value because you still have to bet double to activate it, you must be running incredibly well, even if everything you found was 36x which isn't humanly possible, at quarters you are betting 7.50 per hand you must be finding them non stop on very limited machine placement
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November 2nd, 2015 at 8:55:11 PM
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Estimated theo $900-1,100, so +$2,000 is a little hot.Quote: WizardofnothingYou are up 2k on barnyard?
No really big hands. Only 2 quads.
6 good hits in ~120 plays over 4 months (Only in casinos with Barnyard ~1 week/month).
$275 5x As/Qs (Full house) $1 (on 15x) <- 4th Ace would have been $4,000.
$856.25 8x 4s (holding 3) $0.25 (on 23x)
$420 Dealt Wild 4-7s $1 (on 21x)
$250 Dealt 3 Deuces, 5x wild 4-9s $1 (on 17x)
<- 4th Deuce would have rocked. $5,000-6,000.
<- Dealt 4 deuces would have been $17,000.
$312.50 5x 7s (holding 2) $0.25 (on 15x)
$95 7x Full House $0.25 (on 20x)
A bad $1 play can chew up $300-400+.
Probably won +$3,000, and lost -$1,000.
P.S. Best hand two hands I've heard about are a dealt quad at $0.25, and As at $1.
No news of royals yet. Game is too new. Need 13,000 hands (avg) for a royal hit (Maybe 4,000 plays?)
Haven't heard of really big hits yet (like the $7,000-12,000 7x-10x $0.25 royals some people have gotten on UX).
I had only one 5-figure hit on UX in 5 years (4x As at $5. No kicker).
November 2nd, 2015 at 9:04:04 PM
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Quote: mamatBarnyard is still rare in Vegas. Saw them in 2 casinos out of 18. (All .05/.20/.25). Pala (San Diego) has $1.
Only 1 play. Very empty. Made $3.
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Overall up +2K on Barnyard since July.
More profitable/machine than UX, but UX has 1000s of machines and higher denoms ($5, $10).
Casinos are ordering single machines which doesn't help (the ap) unless other games are around.I use them at Stn casino for the five point and swipe weekend promos.I was excited when I first saw them but have calmed down now :(
Most stations and Boyd casinos have it.
November 3rd, 2015 at 3:11:14 AM
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Uodated: Saw Barnyard in 3 casinos out of 26 (Wynn 2, Green Valley Ranch 2, Suncoast 2).Quote: mamatBarnyard is still rare in Vegas. Saw them in 2 casinos out of 18. (All .05/.20/.25).
Suncoast has $0.50 & $1.00, but doesn't appear to be much action at higher denoms.
Went to 7 Station Casinos today & only saw them at Green Valley,
but wasn't looking very closely at video poker areas. Maybe I missed them.
Found 2 more plays (0.25 & 0.05), but lost on both -$37.50.
Total: 3 plays -$34.50.
November 4th, 2015 at 5:41:22 PM
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Quote: stephen.hallMost Boyd casinos have it.
Not in downtown LV. Having recently been to MSS, the Cal and Fremont, I didn't see it at any of them.
November 6th, 2015 at 2:32:08 AM
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Heard Palms has it (for $1).
Was not able to visit Cosmopolitan, Gold Coast, or Palace Station.
Perhaps on my next scouting visit in 2017? :-) (Vegas/Henderson has 75-80 casinos..., and I visited 35, less than half).
Friend hit deuces on $0.25...and is a new convert.
Was not able to visit Cosmopolitan, Gold Coast, or Palace Station.
Perhaps on my next scouting visit in 2017? :-) (Vegas/Henderson has 75-80 casinos..., and I visited 35, less than half).
Friend hit deuces on $0.25...and is a new convert.
November 7th, 2015 at 12:56:14 AM
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Soboba has 2 (7th CA casino with Barnyard, in S Cal).
Found 9 plays (7 .05, 2 .10) +$57.25 (Theo $27.75, avg 23.1x).
Better than in Vegas. 3 plays -$34.55 (Theo $11.50, avg 18.7x).
Guy hit 10X Spade Royal holding QJ10 (32x). $2,000 on nickels.
First Barnyard Royal I've seen.
Found 9 plays (7 .05, 2 .10) +$57.25 (Theo $27.75, avg 23.1x).
Better than in Vegas. 3 plays -$34.55 (Theo $11.50, avg 18.7x).
Guy hit 10X Spade Royal holding QJ10 (32x). $2,000 on nickels.
First Barnyard Royal I've seen.
December 14th, 2015 at 3:41:00 AM
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Unfriggin believable of course the damn pig couldn't explode
http://i.imgur.com/AkGt6x5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/AkGt6x5.jpg
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December 14th, 2015 at 4:08:03 AM
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Quote: WizardofnothingUnfriggin believable of course the damn pig couldn't explode
That. Is. A. Goat.
December 14th, 2015 at 6:10:05 AM
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Ouch, but I'd still take it. I had mixed results playing it this weekend. It actually gets played a decent amount at gold strike in Tunica. Bit surprised.
Also I had a 20X explode only to be replaced by a 23X. Sometimes that game doesn't want you to quit.
Also I had a 20X explode only to be replaced by a 23X. Sometimes that game doesn't want you to quit.
December 14th, 2015 at 6:34:32 AM
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Wasn't paying attention to the type of animal
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December 14th, 2015 at 9:00:08 AM
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Awesome dealt deuces!
December 14th, 2015 at 1:03:57 PM
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How much does four two's with a six pay?Quote: phendricksQuote: WizardofnothingUnfriggin believable of course the damn pig couldn't explode
That. Is. A. Goat.
P*****
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
November 11th, 2018 at 9:16:49 PM
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so what will make it positive?Quote: Exoter175If what you're referring to is 9x on one side and 6x on the other, you're going to lose a lot of money on those. The base game starts at 3x.
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November 11th, 2018 at 11:08:27 PM
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Quote: 100xOddsso what will make it positive?
Exoter is banned dude, so he isn't gonna tell you. But he was nice to me when I met him though.
Also you actually have Barnyard in casinos still? There are VERY few left nationwide.
Game has treated me well though. Hit one of these, but I've never got a quad on it. Lol
November 12th, 2018 at 5:28:09 AM
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yes, 1 machine.Quote: tringlomaneAlso you actually have Barnyard in casinos still? There are VERY few left nationwide.
Game has treated me well though. Hit one of these, but I've never got a quad on it. Lol
saw 6x/15x, and 3x/18x. (I think)
there were also a few others where the total of the 2 animals was 18x.
didn't play it since I don't know where the breakeven point is :(
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice).
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November 13th, 2018 at 4:33:13 PM
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Quote: 100xOddsyes, 1 machine.Quote: tringlomaneAlso you actually have Barnyard in casinos still? There are VERY few left nationwide.
Game has treated me well though. Hit one of these, but I've never got a quad on it. Lol
saw 6x/15x, and 3x/18x. (I think)
there were also a few others where the total of the 2 animals was 18x.
didn't play it since I don't know where the breakeven point is :(
I dunno the exact break off points either, but those are close.
