Nareed
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May 22nd, 2015 at 11:42:12 AM permalink
Good video poker is dying in Downtown Vegas.

Consider:

Last year the Four Queens removed the 9/6 JoB paytable from the multidenomination machines near the sports book. This year the bank of $1 progressive 10/7 Double Bonus was gone.

Binion's advertises 98% paytables on little signs by the entrance.

At the D, where good paytables were plentiful on the second floor, a bank of quarter 10/7 DB was removed last week (replaced with video slots, yuck!). A cocktail waitress told me there is a pan to phase out all coin dropping machines. All the good paytables are in such machines. This includes my beloved nickel 101.67% Loose Deuce machine <sigh>. She says the only exception will be the Sigma Derby machine.

There are still some good options. The Four Queens still has a bank of quarter 9/6 JoB, and the bank of quarter progressive 10/7 DB still seats right under Magnolia's. MSS has good offerings still, and they're advertising the scratch card promo for all natural 4oaK.

But the trend is clear.

Play it while you can.
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May 22nd, 2015 at 11:47:42 AM permalink
Quote: Nareed

Good video poker is dying in Downtown Vegas.

Consider:

Last year the Four Queens removed the 9/6 JoB paytable from the multidenomination machines near the sports book. This year the bank of $1 progressive 10/7 Double Bonus was gone.

Binion's advertises 98% paytables on little signs by the entrance.

At the D, where good paytables were plentiful on the second floor, a bank of quarter 10/7 DB was removed last week (replaced with video slots, yuck!). A cocktail waitress told me there is a pan to phase out all coin dropping machines. All the good paytables are in such machines. This includes my beloved nickel 101.67% Loose Deuce machine <sigh>. She says the only exception will be the Sigma Derby machine.

There are still some good options. The Four Queens still has a bank of quarter 9/6 JoB, and the bank of quarter progressive 10/7 DB still seats right under Magnolia's. MSS has good offerings still, and they're advertising the scratch card promo for all natural 4oaK.

But the trend is clear.

Play it while you can.



Re: The Four Queens still has a bank of quarter 9/6 JoB. Are they still the ones near the security desk?
mcallister3200
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May 22nd, 2015 at 11:58:29 AM permalink
The 4 queens 98.9 0.25 deuces progressive is often a better play than the 9/6 jacks, and the 10/7 DB game at the D was also more often than not not the highest returning game at quarters at the D anyways. Gradual decline in good pay tables is just the trend in LV and not specific to downtown by any means, similar to the spread of 6/5 blackjack.

Sad trend, but we can talk all we want about what used to be, or we can just play the good ones we still have and work harder to find something better if that's your goal. Just a comment in general about deteriorating game quality.
tringlomane
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May 22nd, 2015 at 1:15:42 PM permalink
Considering how big of a PITA it was for me to play the loose deuces last month (wouldn't accept bills and wouldn't always accept nickels), I can't say I'm surprised. I thought to myself it might be the last time I'd play the game, but after the annoyance from it, I'm okay with that. I'd be impressed if they had the balls to keep that payable though (they won't) lol.

And of course they'll keep the sigma derby, that holds 20%! lol

I know this will hit you harder nareed because you like to play nickels mostly. What are the best nickel units beyond the loose deuces machine downtown? Nickel 9/5 JoB at four queens, anything else? Downtown has some decent quarter games, but nickels, but so much, but I really haven't looked hard there either. Last trip was a record for us, 5 hours downtown!
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May 22nd, 2015 at 2:02:58 PM permalink
I was surprised by all of the nickel VP in the El Cortez when we were there on Tuesday morning. I went there to play BJ but saw a UX VP nickel machine and of course had to see if anything was left on it. I even played it for a few minutes. The first nickel machine I think I've ever played too.

That place is full of penny and low denomination slots and VP though. I didn't look at any pay tables though since I wasn't planning on playing.

And they still have a couple of rows of multi denomination 9/6 JOB at the Plaza. The lowest denomination was .25.

And I did spot a couple of 5.00 slot machines there this time too. So I stand corrected on my statement in November that the largest denomination slot I saw there at a dollar. Sorry for doubting you, Axel.
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May 22nd, 2015 at 2:11:20 PM permalink
The Plaza has been making a point of saying they have all 99% + VP. As of 1 month ago they had 10/7 DB up to dollars and 9/6 jacks. For nickel players, yeah it has been getting tougher.

To texasplumr yeah they kept the 5 dollar machines in the same row as the 1 dollars for a while. Now I think they put the 5 dollar machines in their own row by the wall in the high limit area.
Nareed
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May 22nd, 2015 at 2:58:08 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

Considering how big of a PITA it was for me to play the loose deuces last month (wouldn't accept bills and wouldn't always accept nickels), I can't say I'm surprised.



It doesn't like the new $5s, but otherwise I've never had trouble with it. I fed it $10s and $20s regularly.

Quote:

I know this will hit you harder nareed because you like to play nickels mostly.



I play quarters, too. But when you stay as long as I do in Vegas, nickel VP with an outstanding pay table is essential. It lets you play cheap for hours, day and day out.

Quote:

Nickel 9/5 JoB at four queens, anything else?



I'd rather play quarters 9/6 than nickel 9/5.

There were some 8/5 BP machines at the D, but they also pay in coin. I assume they'll be gone soon.
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May 22nd, 2015 at 3:35:06 PM permalink
I play 10/7 double bonus at- ELC, 4Q, Plaza, Cal, MSS.

And all have 9/6 Job for $0.25, except ELC @ $1.

But I agree, pay tables have deteriorated in the last 12 mos.
tringlomane
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June 11th, 2015 at 1:45:33 PM permalink
According to VPFree2, this old bucket of bolts was removed recently...I didn't get to play this game nearly enough. Gf really doesn't like downtown...



The best game the D now currently offers is NSUD...*thumbs down*
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June 11th, 2015 at 2:11:29 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

According to VPFree2, this old bucket of bolts was removed recently...I didn't get to play this game nearly enough. Gf really doesn't like downtown..



Say it ain't so. I'll confirm or deny my next downtown visit.

If so, what will be the next single best video poker machine in Las Vegas, based on return percentage alone? According to VPfree2, the El Corez has 100.92% Downtown Deuces. Does anyone know of anything better?

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