2014 net results. I run bad!

So I stopped in at my local Stations casino today and looked at my 2014 results. For the year I lost $3001.25. $137.8k coin in. Vast majority played at FPDW (25c). With some .50c - $1 FPDD, FPDB, and a bit of 5 play 98.91 DW at .05c - .25c (x10 double on) To clear some fast points.

Basically all of it was played from Aug-Dec.

ZERO royals!

Some basic guesstimates on hands played, I figure I am around 120k hands (had previously thought I was beyond this number) w/o a royal.

So, the next question is, being as I believe I'm 3 royals below expectation, and basing on $130k of fpdw coin in, x 1.076 expectation, = $9800 expected profit? (or is it $980?).

How far below expectation did I really run?

How did you do for 2014?

If you exclusively played deuces for that amount of coin in, your expected value would be $980. You missed a zero in 1.0076. If you played deuces alone, minus 3k would be pretty rough. Harder to say with the other games sprinkled in. If I had to guess, at least bottom 10%, probably bottom 5%.

I feel your pain though. I haven't got a royal since Sept. 2012. I play a lot less frequently though. I'm definitely not 3 cycles in.

What did you get from monthly mailers and comps for slot points?

I can say with reasonable confidence $125k coin in is fpdw. Of the remaining 12.8k , most was 5c double on 5 hands dw. @98.9.

so I think this puts me over 3 cycles down.

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What did you get from monthly mailers and comps for slot points?

very little. They don't give much when playing full pay.

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If you exclusively played deuces for that amount of coin in, your expected value would be $980. You missed a zero in 1.0076. If you played deuces alone, minus 3k would be pretty rough. Harder to say with the other games sprinkled in. If I had to guess, at least bottom 10%, probably bottom 5%.

I feel your pain though. I haven't got a royal since Sept. 2012. I play a lot less frequently though. I'm definitely not 3 cycles in.

Not sure what you mean there. Bottom % of what?

So if we surmise I'm 3 cycles w/o a royal, I guess we could say I'm down a few quad deuces as well. Since 3 royals basically puts me even. Hell I kinda thought I was running good since I wasn't getting any royals. But I thought I may have been slightly ahead too. I'm now using an app to enter the results of every session. But it's a simple accounting app only. No notes or anything, or ability to enter # hands played.

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If you exclusively played deuces for that amount of coin in, your expected value would be $980. You missed a zero in 1.0076. If you played deuces alone, minus 3k would be pretty rough. Harder to say with the other games sprinkled in. If I had to guess, at least bottom 10%, probably bottom 5%.

I feel your pain though. I haven't got a royal since Sept. 2012. I play a lot less frequently though. I'm definitely not 3 cycles in.

Not sure what you mean there. Bottom % of what?

So if we surmise I'm 3 cycles w/o a royal, I guess we could say I'm down a few quad deuces as well. Since 3 royals basically puts me even. Hell I kinda thought I was running good since I wasn't getting any royals. But I thought I may have been slightly ahead too. I'm now using an app to enter the results of every session. But it's a simple accounting app only. No notes or anything, or ability to enter # hands played.

Look at some regular Poker apps you might be able to customize them a bit.
I used Check my bets for different things it's online and not a regular app.

Casino Tracker is an app

I haven't tried this yet but it sounds interesting (I don't have an ITUNES account I believe its required)
Free Casino Gambling Tracker
Video Poker and Slots players, keep track of your gambling sessions the next time you're playing in a casino. Analyze stats like Best Sessions, Win/Loss by Game, Win/Loss by Casino, Win/Loss by Machine and Win/Loss by Denomination. Email your playing session data to yourself in CSV format to analyze further using a spreadsheet on your computer. Backup your data to our server and restore if you lose or change your phone. Fields Tracked: - Date/Time of Session - Casino - Location (ex: 4th seat near elevator) - Game Name (ex: Deuces Wild, Triple Lucky Sevens) - Denomination Played (25c, $1, $5) - Machine Number (ex: HR04 D0001...) - Notable Win ($1,200+) - Amount In - Cash Out - Notes

If anyone tries it let me know if its good enough to mess with.

Af far as a personal expense tracker, I highly recommend Evo Wallet.

I'm still in process of doing my 2014 results. (It's complicated why I haven't done it or know exactly already.) So far, it looks like I'm about 1.5 million coin in and about 99% return on that coin in. Mostly on 9/6 JoB, but also played some shitty pay tables (97% at the lowest). Don't know about royals or # of hands, since some was on 20 play and some on $5 single line.....but I feel like I'm about on expectation when it comes to royals. (PS: One reason why I LOVE multi line and dislike single line. Royals come much more often when playing 20/50 line as opposed to single line. You actually have a chance at hitting a royal when you're dealt 3-to or 4-to a royal on 20-50 line games.)

I didn't run too good in Blackjack and HCing, although I played very little HC games/sessions. In blackjack I got my sh*t pushed in, about -20k. But then again, I had a relatively small sample size with big bets (2x400 to 2x800 as a BP) being placed at a tiny advantage.

For the most part, likely 90 percent or more of my play, it's strictly full pay. Played 4k hands of fpdw today. Ran like dog shizz. 4 wild royals below expected. No deuces. And another 40+ 2 card rf draws missed. Three 1 card draws missed.

I then tilted off 300 on multi line neg ev.

It's starting to really tilt me no rf in well over 125k hands now.

11 days into the new year. Approximately 15k hands played at 25c fpdw. I've hit quad deuces three times. Still no rf's. Bringing my number to about 140k hands with no royal. On the good side, I'm ahead $85 so far and picked up about $30 in points and free points spins.

And to top it off, I've got interest from a nice cocktail waitress at the casino. Who knows, maybe it will be a good year!

Just finished a 1120 hand session. Deuces for plus $230. 16k hands played this year. Net: $315.

approx 141k hands w/o a royal. It's gonna happen soon! Right? Lol

edit: That's three quad deuces in 16k hands. Right on expectation. Likely have had an overabundance of wrf and 5oak.

Interesting week. Hit quad deuces five times in less than 20k hands. Including twice in about 40 hands same machine. Missed no less than another dozen or more 1 card rf draws. I've had an overabundance of wrf and maybe 5oak too. I'm ahead ytd, but I need to keep my ass away from -ev vp. I've seen a few progressive jackpots that seemed positive expectation but obviously high variance and likely still lose games. I also tried a couple shots at ultimate X and was sorely disappointed. Crap pay schedule too on 5 or 10 play.

Did the math and I'd be ahead another 1300 if not for those.

But for me, the interesting thing was talking to another fpdw player. He stated his worst run was 7 cycles wo a rf. Then he hit NINE in quick order. Like within 2 cycles.

Sounds pretty frustrating and exciting at the same time.

Quote: Bigfshead

So I stopped in at my local Stations casino today and looked at my 2014 results. For the year I lost $3001.25. $137.8k coin in. Vast majority played at FPDW (25c). With some .50c - $1 FPDD, FPDB, and a bit of 5 play 98.91 DW at .05c - .25c (x10 double on) To clear some fast points.

Basically all of it was played from Aug-Dec.

ZERO royals!

Some basic guesstimates on hands played, I figure I am around 120k hands (had previously thought I was beyond this number) w/o a royal.

So, the next question is, being as I believe I'm 3 royals below expectation, and basing on $130k of fpdw coin in, x 1.076 expectation, = $9800 expected profit? (or is it $980?).

How far below expectation did I really run?

How did you do for 2014?

Did you actually lose $3001.25 or is that just what your win/loss statement from the casino says?

A couple of years ago my win/loss showed almost $6000 in losses from one casino yet my actual losses were closer to $600. I keep track every time I visit a casino with the data and amount won or lost using a list maker app on my smartphone.

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Did you actually lose $3001.25 or is that just what your win/loss statement from the casino says?

A couple of years ago my win/loss showed almost $6000 in losses from one casino yet my actual losses were closer to $600. I keep track every time I visit a casino with the data and amount won or lost using a list maker app on my smartphone.

Did you play machines exclusively? Machine games with your player's card inserted are nearly flawless, to my knowledge.

This was just vp win loss. I dont play slots or table games.

Edit, so last night went back to casino. Hit deuces again for the third time of the day. Missed 5 more 1 card rf draws. Ho hum. But still net 360 for the day.

Quote: PBguy

A couple of years ago my win/loss showed almost $6000 in losses from one casino yet my actual losses were closer to $600. I keep track every time I visit a casino with the data and amount won or lost using a list maker app on my smartphone.

Most win/loss statements I have gotten are correct although some casinos don't reflect hand-pays with or without W2-G's correctly. Maybe that's what happened in your case.

Where I play in LV, the only hand pays are w2gs and therefore show up on win loss statement