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waasnoday
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November 9th, 2015 at 4:12:50 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

I don't know but it did; none had any or any used mults after that, INCLUDING the game my buddy just played with two 2x's on a 3 play game. The mults he just used were gone too.

On that note, I forgot to add this to my first post... I can 100% CONFIRM (separate from this machine malfunction) that casinos have some setting to WIPE multipliers off machines after a certain period of time.

This has to be illegal. People PAY to have those multipliers, so taking them off the machines after 30 min or 1 hour or whatever is STEALING, right?

Should I be contacting gaming?



I do not think this is illegal. I have been aware of this setting but we do not use it where I work and I have not been asked if this setting was legal. With that being said I do believe this setting is not stealing because the multipliers were acquired by the person playing the machine at the time and are for that person's benefit only. If the person who earned those multipliers chooses to leave them on the machine either through negligence or ignorance does not mean the next person to play the machine is entitled to them. Now like I said I have not looked into this issue but like DrR stated the Nevada GC has been fine with this game setting so far. The fact that many casinos do not use this feature does have me wondering why though, so maybe there is some sort of issue there, but I have not heard of it.
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November 9th, 2015 at 4:30:03 PM permalink
Quote: waasnoday

The fact that many casinos do not use this feature does have me wondering why though, so maybe there is some sort of issue there, but I have not heard of it.



My guess would be because the option defaults to being turned off. Most of the slot personnel probably don;t know it exists or don't understand what it actually does.
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waasnoday
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November 9th, 2015 at 4:54:46 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

My guess would be because the option defaults to being turned off. Most of the slot personnel probably don;t know it exists or don't understand what it actually does.



After thinking about some of the conversations with the slot techs, I have to agree with you.
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November 9th, 2015 at 5:07:46 PM permalink
Visible multipliers are also a strong lure for people who don't know how to maximize their value, and they only last for 1 hand. If you're looking at a bank of VP, aren't you going to be attracted to a ready multiplier?

I don't think the casinos think the retention feature hurts them enough to take them away in the overall scheme of things. I could easily be wrong.
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November 9th, 2015 at 6:20:03 PM permalink
Here's one of my favorite AP moves. I use the vulture winnings (i.e., excluding big hits) as seed money for regular VP play using Singer's modified FARTT strategy. I've been quite successful with this play to date.
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November 9th, 2015 at 7:00:31 PM permalink
Quote: DanMahoney

Here's one of my favorite AP moves. I use the vulture winnings (i.e., excluding big hits) as seed money for regular VP play using Singer's modified FARTT strategy. I've been quite successful with this play to date.



I am not familiar with the FARTT strategy but I assume it stinks.
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November 9th, 2015 at 7:16:32 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

I am not familiar with the FARTT strategy but I assume it stinks.


You got that right.
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November 9th, 2015 at 7:54:08 PM permalink
Quote: waasnoday

With that being said I do believe this setting is not stealing because the multipliers were acquired by the person playing the machine at the time and are for that person's benefit only. If the person who earned those multipliers chooses to leave them on the machine either through negligence or ignorance does not mean the next person to play the machine is entitled to them.



I wouldn't think that applies any more than the person who ran up a must-hit bonus without taking it and leaves. Sure it's that person's money that ran up the bonus, but it doesn't get redacted, so the next player has to run it up again.
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November 10th, 2015 at 5:14:22 PM permalink
Quote: DanMahoney

Here's one of my favorite AP moves. I use the vulture winnings (i.e., excluding big hits) as seed money for regular VP play using Singer's modified FARTT strategy. I've been quite successful with this play to date.

If Singer's strategy works why would you wast time vulturing? That makes absolutely no sense.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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November 10th, 2015 at 5:19:24 PM permalink
You answered your own question, although I have seen people checking 2 cent machines and vulturing
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