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October 20th, 2015 at 8:14:29 PM permalink
I've never seen/witnessed a machine that works the way chaunceyb3's picture's machine works...are those extremely old machines (or old versions of the software)?
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October 20th, 2015 at 8:31:22 PM permalink
Just tried to play ux 1 hand only at 5 credits. As soon as I pressed the credits up from 1 to 2 the number of hands went to 10.

I'm not saying this isn't possible, but all casinos I've tried this at won't let you play less than the maximum amount of hands.
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October 20th, 2015 at 9:08:40 PM permalink
You can't play one hand, 5 credits. But you CAN play one hand ONE credit.

The only exception is the one line game found on the Five Star Poker machines.
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October 20th, 2015 at 9:11:33 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

You can't play one hand, 5 credits. But you CAN play one hand ONE credit.

The only exception is the one line game found on the Five Star Poker machines.



Yes the progression is 1 hand, 1 credit to 10 hands, 1 credit with nothing in between.
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October 20th, 2015 at 9:13:10 PM permalink
Quote: djatc

Yes the progression is 1 hand, 1 credit to 10 hands, 1 credit with nothing in between.


Right. And once you get to 10 hands, now you can bet either 1/2/3/4/5 or 10 credits.
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October 20th, 2015 at 11:24:27 PM permalink
Quote: RS

I'll give you one more chance to amend your story.



I haven't amended my story at all, and I have no need to amend it, what do you feel is "off" about it? I'd love to hear it.

Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Basically on some, not all UX machines that have multipliers, playing just one line one credit will leave the other multipliers on the screen untouched.



Every machine I've ever touched with ultimate X on it, has done what I've described. I've never seen of a machine that would act otherwise, and I'd imagine it might go against state regulations to have it "disappear", since the previous player "paid" for that hand's multiplier, and removing it would be taking away from the player. There's a guy at my local joint who religiously plays UX and waits until he gets a big 10/11/12x, saves it on the top 2 hands until he goes through about 8 or 9 hands without getting dealt something, and then tries to make it "deal" him on his big multipliers. Its silly, doesn't really work, but he feels better about life doing it, so more power to him.

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Is this for real? Of all the machines I've poked at, I have never experienced that.



You've never in your life seen a machine that was sitting at 1x1 on a 10 play that had the 8th hand with a "next hand multiplier" of 2x/3x/etc? You must not vulture often if you haven't, they are very, very common.

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I think he is right. I found a couple this weekend with 1 credit last bet with multiplers on other lines. The "Next Hand 2x" text also appeared darker than they normally do on these particular bets. Don't know if I was just in bad lighting or something or if this is a consistent thing.

Also 50$ for 2/5 is by no means the standard win rate whatsoever and it is very uncommon. That is a top 2% number of the top 10% of winning players. If you can do over 30$ at 2/5 you are doing great compared to the field.

50$ is often considered the "max attainable" win rate in the game over the long run and I for the most part agree with that, though I have seen outliers with higher rates.



That's because the hands are "greyed out", as to why they appear darker or shaded, because those hands are not in action and not being wagered, and thus neither is the multiplier, and so it can be "saved".

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I know if you bet (doesn't matter the amount or whatever), assuming the paytable and # lines is consistent....you can create a multiply on $1 DDB, switch to $0.25 DDB play a little bit and end with a 1x1 bet. Someone comes over and plays something else, perhaps $0.50 DW. A vulture comes by, starts 'er up on $1, scrolls through the games and finds the $1 DDB with a multiplier. The "previous bet" will in fact show a 1x1 bet, due to the $0.25 DDB player's last bet, not the $1 DDB player's last bet.

But I am extremely suspicious about it working the way Exoter and IBYA are saying it can [albeit some machines are apparently different].



Did you also know that the last hand dealt on triple play DDB will show up on every other DDB denomination of the same play type (IE 3 play, 5 play, or 10 play) for that specific game?

There's a lot of interesting looking "stuff" about UX, like what you described, you can also sit there and change every game of every denom to 1x1, and it will not change a thing, other than the "lit up" hands. Seriously, go play a quick round of 10 play nickels on UX, get your first multiplier above your base hand, then knock it down to 1x1 bet, then play. In the midwest/southwest, they all "stay" unless they are being played. Wherever you are, might differ as I've heard stories of there being a specific software version that "removes them" once they are cashed out, but I believe that to be an old wives tale.

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Here's an example: the previous wannabe UX vulture only played up to line 6, leaving the top lines dimmed.

You then come in and play 10 hands/5 credits per hand and scoop up the $10+ in leftover equity.



I don't know of a single "wannabe" vulture that would leave that 3x alone, let alone a 4x. Its probably more likely that the previous person could older wager so much to get to that point, and couldn't hit those last few hands, or perhaps didn't want to wager "too much", or maybe they were a vulture and didn't have the amount of money required to hit it, who knows. Its just rare to see vultures not play off all multipliers, let alone not all the hands available. Usually these are just crackheads and homeless folk.

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Quote: chaunceyb3

Here's an example: the previous wannabe UX vulture only played up to line 6, leaving the top lines dimmed.

You then come in and play 10 hands/5 credits per hand and scoop up the $10+ in leftover equity.



Yeah I think I qualify as a wannabe because this is what I witnessed this weekend lol. I remember changing the credits to 5 but don't recall if I changed hands do ten. Do the multipliers disappear regardless if you change the hand or not (even if you didn't bet on the hand with the multipliers?) The multipliers disappeared after I bet.



The "next hand" multipliers will be awarded, and the current "4x" and "3x" from that picture on hands 5/6 will disappear, and you will see multipliers awarded for hands 9 and 10.

As far as the bet is concerned, if you bump your bet up to 5, it should automatically add the hands up to their full amount, before reaching "5 per hand".

Quote: RS

I've never seen/witnessed a machine that works the way chaunceyb3's picture's machine works...are those extremely old machines (or old versions of the software)?



No, those are actually fairly new in his picture, compared to the ones that I commonly play.

Quote: djatc

Just tried to play ux 1 hand only at 5 credits. As soon as I pressed the credits up from 1 to 2 the number of hands went to 10.

I'm not saying this isn't possible, but all casinos I've tried this at won't let you play less than the maximum amount of hands.



In UX, you can only play 1 credit per hand at less than 10 hands, you can play 1-10x1, but you cannot play less than 10x2/x3/x4/x5/x10 etc.

Quote: djatc

Yes the progression is 1 hand, 1 credit to 10 hands, 1 credit with nothing in between.



Actually, the progression is 1x1,2x1,3x1,4x1,5x1,6x1,7x1,8x1,9x1,10x1,10x2,10x3,10x4,10x5,10x10, at least for 10 play.
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October 21st, 2015 at 9:44:04 AM permalink
I always thought that was put in place to avoid vultures or the last bet a person makes playing max in the first five hands if they where the only ones with multipliers
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October 21st, 2015 at 10:00:24 AM permalink
UX must work differently in LV, since a 1x1 bet will knock down all multipliers.
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October 21st, 2015 at 10:04:20 AM permalink
Why is Exoter in red?
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October 21st, 2015 at 10:06:37 AM permalink
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Why is Exoter in red?


Too much swearing apparently.
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