wernerw
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January 14th, 2014 at 8:06:16 AM permalink
If I want to play my Loss back promotion at the Cosmo in the high limit room, 10$ Videopoker (50$ a hand), and if I am happy with ANY win (because I can come back tomorrow), should I choose JOB or Deuces Wild?

I may add that they have JOB 9/6 there, but no really good Deuces. Not sure if this makes a difference when playing so few hands.
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January 14th, 2014 at 12:11:44 PM permalink
Quote: wernerw

If I want to play my Loss back promotion at the Cosmo in the high limit room, 10$ Videopoker (50$ a hand), and if I am happy with ANY win (because I can come back tomorrow), should I choose JOB or Deuces Wild? I may add that they have JOB 9/6 there, but no really good Deuces. Not sure if this makes a difference when playing so few hands.



9/6 Jacks has the higher EV and lower variance.
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January 14th, 2014 at 12:17:53 PM permalink
When you finally get to the point that you can't come back tomorrow and it is use it or lose it then you should play the $25 slot machine.
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January 14th, 2014 at 12:19:37 PM permalink
Quote: mickeycrimm

9/6 Jacks has the higher EV and lower variance.



Yeah, but with traditional loss rebates, variance is your friend, so 9/6 Double Double Bonus is also an option. But if he is willing to quit a winner and attempt on future days (allowed with this promo), I would think you would also want to play 9/6 Jacks for this reason because quitting a winner is beneficial with this promo. I would need to program a sim though to be sure which game is better...blah. Deuces is out of the question for the loss phase though.

Save playing deuces for when you eventually lose the $100 and have to play out the freeplay. They offer 98.91% penny deuces for a minimum of $1 per round out on the casino floor. Just play 20 hands of penny deuces per round 100 times and you've cycled through the freeplay.

http://www.vpfree2.com/casino/cosmopolitan-las-vegas
wernerw
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January 14th, 2014 at 12:25:20 PM permalink
Quote: bigfoot66

When you finally get to the point that you can't come back tomorrow and it is use it or lose it then you should play the $25 slot machine.


well, 5x25 = 125, this is why I would go for the 10$ machines.
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January 14th, 2014 at 12:26:58 PM permalink
What's this loss back promotion?
wernerw
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January 14th, 2014 at 12:27:42 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

Yeah, but with traditional loss rebates, variance is your friend, so 9/6 Double Double Bonus is also an option. But if he is willing to quit a winner and attempt on future days (allowed with this promo), I would think you would also want to play 9/6 Jacks for this reason because quitting a winner is beneficial with this promo. I would need to program a sim though to be sure which game is better...blah. Deuces is out of the question for the loss phase though.

Save playing deuces for when you eventually lose the $100 and have to play out the freeplay. They offer 98.91% penny deuces for a minimum of $1 per round out on the casino floor. Just play 20 hands of penny deuces per round 100 times and you've cycled through the freeplay.

http://www.vpfree2.com/casino/cosmopolitan-las-vegas



I don't know how to play the DDB, so the options for me are JoB or DW where I know the strategy.

So I did not get which option I should choose from.

In case of loss, I will try the penny deuces
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January 14th, 2014 at 12:29:12 PM permalink
Quote: wernerw

well, 5x25 = 125, this is why I would go for the 10$ machines.



They have a $25 2 credit slot machine. My friend hit it for $850 on his first spin going for this promotion. The slot machine is likely a better bet than VP...Higher Variance.
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January 14th, 2014 at 12:29:12 PM permalink
Quote: wernerw

I don't know how to play the DDB, so the options for me are JoB or DW where I know the strategy.

So I did not get which option I should choose from.

In case of loss, I will try the penny deuces

LOL.... you are playing only a few hands any strategy will do.
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January 14th, 2014 at 12:30:34 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

What's this loss back promotion?



Any member of Cosmo's "Identity Club" can lose $100 once in their life in a single gaming day (at least until the promo ends) and get the $100 back in freeplay. Unlike many other loss promos, your losses don't have to be claimed on the first day of membership, so there is a benefit of quitting a winner. My g/f quit a small winner about 5 times I think before losing.
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January 14th, 2014 at 12:33:38 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

LOL.... you are playing only a few hands any strategy will do.


you might be right. OK, you are right.
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January 14th, 2014 at 12:36:45 PM permalink
Quote: bigfoot66

They have a $25 2 credit slot machine. My friend hit it for $850 on his first spin going for this promotion. The slot machine is likely a better bet than VP...Higher Variance.



Depends on the variance and the return of the slot, which unfortunately is difficult to determine without inside info.
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January 14th, 2014 at 12:40:20 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

Any member of Cosmo's "Identity Club" can lose $100 once in their life in a single gaming day (at least until the promo ends) and get the $100 back in freeplay. Unlike many other loss promos, your losses don't have to be claimed on the first day of membership, so there is a benefit of quitting a winner. My g/f quit a small winner about 5 times I think before losing.



Oh, cool. Not bad -- I'd definitely play it if I was there... but also probably not worth a trip to the Cosmo from somewhere else.
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January 14th, 2014 at 1:20:10 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

Yeah, but with traditional loss rebates, variance is your friend, so 9/6 Double Double Bonus is also an option. But if he is willing to quit a winner and attempt on future days (allowed with this promo), I would think you would also want to play 9/6 Jacks for this reason because quitting a winner is beneficial with this promo. I would need to program a sim though to be sure which game is better...blah. Deuces is out of the question for the loss phase though.

Save playing deuces for when you eventually lose the $100 and have to play out the freeplay. They offer 98.91% penny deuces for a minimum of $1 per round out on the casino floor. Just play 20 hands of penny deuces per round 100 times and you've cycled through the freeplay.

http://www.vpfree2.com/casino/cosmopolitan-las-vegas



I misunderstood the OP's question. I thought he was talking about freeplay. Sorry.
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January 31st, 2014 at 6:13:49 PM permalink
love the $25 slot at river city.
if you dont see the sucker at the table its you!!!
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January 31st, 2014 at 7:12:06 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

Any member of Cosmo's "Identity Club" can lose $100 once in their life in a single gaming day (at least until the promo ends) and get the $100 back in freeplay. Unlike many other loss promos, your losses don't have to be claimed on the first day of membership, so there is a benefit of quitting a winner. My g/f quit a small winner about 5 times I think before losing.



Does this only apply to video games, or tables as well? Do we finally have a use for the martingale?
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February 1st, 2014 at 1:33:21 PM permalink
Quote: endermike

Does this only apply to video games, or tables as well? Do we finally have a use for the martingale?



Non-progressive slots or video poker only I believe. Still worth it though even if you never really play these games.

And as for the martingale, haha, it might not be a terrible strategy since you can quit a winner with this and come back. I doubt it's optimal though, the larger the bet unit is, the less the house edge would grind on the rebate.
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February 1st, 2014 at 4:45:05 PM permalink
I'd play TDB or DDB and hope for a quad, but if you just want any win DW might have a better hit rate then JoB, I'm not sure. Actually I'd play a $100 slot just because I love +EV slots and am a sucker for a jackpot.
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