Mission146
Mission146
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January 19th, 2014 at 8:27:38 AM permalink
Quote: tournamentking

. Don't add any more conflict to your gambling lives (if in fact, any of you really play in casinos as much as you would like others to believe)..



I've about had my fun with you disrespecting bona fide professionals on this Forum every other post.

If you don't like the club, consider the, "Logout," button the door, and don't let it hit you in the posterior on the way out.
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Transcend
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January 19th, 2014 at 8:34:31 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Worrying about what TournamentKing thinks is equivalent to me worrying about someone unemployed saying I am a loser with a crappy job, so don't.



Not worried in the least, but he is always pointing that finger around for evidence except towards himself.
Part of it went on gambling, and part of it went on women. The rest I spent foolishly. -George Raft
Mission146
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January 19th, 2014 at 8:57:36 AM permalink
A wise fish will look for food somewhere other than the end of a hook, my friend.
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Ibeatyouraces
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January 19th, 2014 at 9:46:49 AM permalink
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
mickeycrimm
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January 19th, 2014 at 10:57:03 AM permalink
Quote: Transcend

My first post here was a big slot win albeit luck, not saying it was an AP play at all. In just posting that you were extremely rude and disbelieving about my win so much so I had to bend over backwards to prove it...and even then it was hardly enough proof for you. I ask you, where are any of your wins posted? You speak of winning, can you prove it?



To me a big jackpot doesn't make the man. Big jackpots don't go to professionals because we don't play Megabucks, Elvis, and all those other shared revenue games that rarely go positive, have a huge drop, and extreme long shot odds. Those jackpots go to the ploppies.

I ignored TK pots shots at me for quite awhile....but finally fired back. But I see the pattern developing. Several years ago it started the same way with RS. I tried to carry on a civil debate but he kept up with the put downs, insults, etc. I spiraled right down into it with him firing off my own barrage of insults. The whole thing just became a viscious pissing match. So I quit and vowed not to ever get myself in that situation again. So I'm not going to get myself in that situation with TK.

As big jackpots go, the best I ever did was a $38,000 win in just a few hours of video poker play. It happened at the Wendover Nugget in August 2007. A drawing promotion was going on. I had a short time to run the tickets which were based on action. I jumped up to $5 NSUD. I hit two $20,000 royals. Both came by holding two-card royals on the flop. And both were in diamonds. Now, I haven't played 15,000 games total at the $5 level in my lifetime. So what happened? I got outhouse lucky is what happened. I didn't beat other gamblers over the head with lines like "What the hell have you guys ever hit? Show me some W2-G's, idiots." I didn't do any of that nonsense. I understood that I just got lucky.

If I keep living in Montana I will never have a chance at another big jackpot. $800 is max jackpot by law here. But I don't need big jackpots to make a living. I have good hourly rates even with the $800 cap.
"Quit trying your luck and start trying your skill." Mickey Crimm
AxiomOfChoice
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January 19th, 2014 at 1:27:34 PM permalink
Quote: tournamentking

The bottom line in gambling is only your results and not necessarily how you attack it.



This statement shows that you don't know what you are talking about.

You think that the chump who cashes a $200 million powerball win is an expert gambler? His total lifetime gambling results will certainly be very, very good -- are you going to take gambling advice from him? Of course not (at least I hope not). Everyone knows that he just got lucky.

Anyone who plays enough will have lots of big wins. Most big wins are by losing players. Focusing on these big wins as proof of anything shows that your approach makes no sense.

Losing players love high variance -- it is the only way that they can win. Winning players hate it -- it is the only way that they can lose.
gpac1377
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January 19th, 2014 at 1:41:21 PM permalink
Quote: tournamentking

The bottom line in gambling is only your results and not necessarily how you attack it.

Quote: AxiomOfChoice

This statement shows that you don't know what you are talking about.


Let's compare to the Wizard's subject line: "It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet."

So tournamentking appears to be advocating the polar opposite of the Wizard's philosophy. It's possible tk didn't mean what he said, but tk's overall "body of work" here on the forum is very muddled, and the tone is often unnecessarily adversarial, IMO.
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tournamentking
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January 19th, 2014 at 1:48:09 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Worrying about what TournamentKing thinks is equivalent to me worrying about someone unemployed saying I am a loser with a crappy job, so don't.



Funny, since you mentioned it and from reading previous posts, I actually DO believe you have a crappy job....and that you believe it too. So congrats for a good call.
tournamentking
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January 19th, 2014 at 1:57:12 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

This statement shows that you don't know what you are talking about.

You think that the chump who cashes a $200 million powerball win is an expert gambler? His total lifetime gambling results will certainly be very, very good -- are you going to take gambling advice from him? Of course not (at least I hope not). Everyone knows that he just got lucky.

Anyone who plays enough will have lots of big wins. Most big wins are by losing players. Focusing on these big wins as proof of anything shows that your approach makes no sense.

Losing players love high variance -- it is the only way that they can win. Winning players hate it -- it is the only way that they can lose.



Lottery winners have nothing to do with successful gambling approaches.

By your logic, players like B. Dancer who talk about hitting big winners all the time, are losers. Go back and visit that.

I'm no fan of high variance, but contrary to the resident PhD. here in winning, no one ever knows what the return on the slot machine they play is. They can only guess from various bits of information, then approximate after that. There's nothing truly "ap" about that, other than to make themselves feel better about chasing the progressive.
tournamentking
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January 19th, 2014 at 2:01:47 PM permalink
Quote: Transcend

My first post here was a big slot win albeit luck, not saying it was an AP play at all. In just posting that you were extremely rude and disbelieving about my win so much so I had to bend over backwards to prove it...and even then it was hardly enough proof for you. I ask you, where are any of your wins posted? You speak of winning, can you prove it?



I'll take the axel, etc. approach here: "what did you prove? Anyone can snap a pic of someone else's hit then create a tax slip on it. And how do we know you weren't playing with someone else's money". Additionally, "losing players love high variance. They hit big wins all the time."

How's them apple's? That's why unless you're in the special boys club, you stay away from posting big wins from now on. It gets under their skin.

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