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November 24th, 2013 at 8:43:11 PM
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Does anyone else play this VP variation? According to VPfree2 it has the best return at my local casino of 99% hit a royal on it last night but unfortunate no multiplier so it was only a 2000 hit, does this take away from the games return?
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November 24th, 2013 at 9:48:57 PM
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I'm not familiar with that game, but the return takes into account all possible outcomes, multiplied or not.
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November 25th, 2013 at 5:19:04 AM
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https://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/tables/big-split-poker/
the machine i play uses pay table 2
also hit another royal tonight, that is three this week two of which were on big split poker, one last night and one tonight
the machine i play uses pay table 2
also hit another royal tonight, that is three this week two of which were on big split poker, one last night and one tonight
Part of it went on gambling, and part of it went on women. The rest I spent foolishly.
-George Raft
December 10th, 2018 at 7:42:54 PM
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I have not played big split since I became unwelcome at Peppermill. I stumbled onto the big split game at Planet Hollywood in Vegas, then I spotted it again a few days later in AC. Both places had poor pay tables.
https://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/tables/big-split-poker/
Mike's article is from 2004, and there doesn't seem to be much info out there regarding BSP.
I confirmed that Mike's ROI for the first and third pay tables is correct. Here are the returns for the Wizard's six pay tables in order:
pt1 : 1 2 4 4 15 16 : 99.95331984%
pt2 : 1 2 4 4 15 16 : 98.99880930%
pt3 : 1 2 4 4 14 16 : 97.90701295%
pt4 : 1 2 4 4 12 14 : 96.96919100%
pt5 : 1 2 4 4 12 14 : 96.10053975%
pt6 : 1 2 4 4 12 14 : 93.99661027%
By the way, the column in Mike's "Two Pay Tables Return" table named COMBINATIONS is confusing. For pt1, there are clearly only 168 ways (4 * (3 * 12 + 6)) to get a Royal and a SF for a score of 3000. The table seems to show the number of times a payoff in that amount occurs under optimum strategy multiplied by 56.
For example, for pay table #1, the correct number of ways of getting a score of zero is 39853291860, not 22394338176. What Mike appears to have done is multiply the number of winning scores by 56, then multiply the number of possible dealt hands by 56. Then, Mike's EVs come out right, but the COMBINATIONS column is neither the number of optimal combination choices that achieve that score nor the number of possible combinations achieving that score.
I calculate the probability of RF * SF as 168 / 752538150 ways to deal the hand. The tables seem to show it as 9408 / 42142136400, which is the same number.
https://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/tables/big-split-poker/
Mike's article is from 2004, and there doesn't seem to be much info out there regarding BSP.
I confirmed that Mike's ROI for the first and third pay tables is correct. Here are the returns for the Wizard's six pay tables in order:
pt1 : 1 2 4 4 15 16 : 99.95331984%
pt2 : 1 2 4 4 15 16 : 98.99880930%
pt3 : 1 2 4 4 14 16 : 97.90701295%
pt4 : 1 2 4 4 12 14 : 96.96919100%
pt5 : 1 2 4 4 12 14 : 96.10053975%
pt6 : 1 2 4 4 12 14 : 93.99661027%
By the way, the column in Mike's "Two Pay Tables Return" table named COMBINATIONS is confusing. For pt1, there are clearly only 168 ways (4 * (3 * 12 + 6)) to get a Royal and a SF for a score of 3000. The table seems to show the number of times a payoff in that amount occurs under optimum strategy multiplied by 56.
For example, for pay table #1, the correct number of ways of getting a score of zero is 39853291860, not 22394338176. What Mike appears to have done is multiply the number of winning scores by 56, then multiply the number of possible dealt hands by 56. Then, Mike's EVs come out right, but the COMBINATIONS column is neither the number of optimal combination choices that achieve that score nor the number of possible combinations achieving that score.
I calculate the probability of RF * SF as 168 / 752538150 ways to deal the hand. The tables seem to show it as 9408 / 42142136400, which is the same number.
Last edited by: Mental on Dec 11, 2018
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