WHY do people gamble anyway?
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September 9th, 2021 at 10:21:19 AM
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Who doesnt gamble? My friends often laugh when I say "I dont gamble."
Ive endured/overcame some signigicant financial losses in my life. None of which society deems as gambling.
My closest friends are celebrating anniversaries by decades now instead of years. Given that, I figure I must have done/been doing something right.
I was recently at my close friends 50th wedding anniversary.
In his speech, he said, when we took those vows, we had no idea what they all meant. But in looking back over 5 decades, they faced and overcome every one of them.
He concluded, so it's 50-50? No, it's 100-100.🤔
So maybe it's only gambling if we lose/fail?
Ive endured/overcame some signigicant financial losses in my life. None of which society deems as gambling.
My closest friends are celebrating anniversaries by decades now instead of years. Given that, I figure I must have done/been doing something right.
I was recently at my close friends 50th wedding anniversary.
In his speech, he said, when we took those vows, we had no idea what they all meant. But in looking back over 5 decades, they faced and overcome every one of them.
He concluded, so it's 50-50? No, it's 100-100.🤔
So maybe it's only gambling if we lose/fail?
September 9th, 2021 at 6:48:22 PM
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My mistake. BETMAKER not Betfair. Betmaker is an Australian bookmaker. Plan is for Monmouth to have windows for fixed odds in clubhouse and grandstand. With tv monitors displaying odds for win place and show bets to start. Fixed odds also to be on inhouse tv race feed. NJ residents with account can bet online. Plans to expand fixed odds online to other outlets and OTB in other states when states approve.
Betmaker take is about 12% versus 15 -18 in paramutuel on WPS bets.
The overall handle in Australia doubled in less than 10 years with fixed odds betting. Andrew Beyers was tv handicapper in house at Pimlico one year.Prime bets or not. He sucked.
Betmaker take is about 12% versus 15 -18 in paramutuel on WPS bets.
The overall handle in Australia doubled in less than 10 years with fixed odds betting. Andrew Beyers was tv handicapper in house at Pimlico one year.Prime bets or not. He sucked.
September 10th, 2021 at 12:45:35 PM
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Quote: EvenBobName a casino game where you're not supposed to lose.
The second largest casino: the Stock Market.
The largest casino: The I.R.S. The "Great American Pastime" used to be baseball and now, perhaps, football, however beating the I.R.S. has replaced them both. The taxpayer has learned multiple ways to both legally and illegally beat the I.R.S. without consequences a majority of the time. It is not all that difficult.
tuttigym
September 10th, 2021 at 1:19:08 PM
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Quote: DJTeddyBearI gamble for entertainment.
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Not just the usual way people say that their bankroll could easily be an entertainment budget, but it just fascinates and entertains me to watch other gamblers with their odd habits and superstitions. Plus there’s the social aspect.
It makes me wonder why people play slots, mindlessly, for hours on end.
But I also gamble to exercise the brain muscle. It’s a thinking game if you play right.
Before the pandemic, I would go to Biloxi 6 to 8 times a year. It was the destination of choice for me. It was free; rooms, meals, golf, and sometimes, early on, transportation (air). The gambling was fun, enjoyable, at times, disappointing, but mostly exciting and yes, marginally profitable. I met a number of some very nice people including our own DeMango, a really class individual. I gamble because I can, and I can afford it without financial stress or emotional burden.
Like DJ, I watch others play (craps) mostly the "establishment" way and lose. They buy in with a mostly modest amount and play hoping to catch lightning in a bottle or get lucky with a longshot prop bet or maybe get that "hot" shooter to ride him to "glory." It happens, not often, but when it does, joyfulness abounds.
tuttigym
September 10th, 2021 at 6:00:01 PM
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Quote: Marcusclark66Gamble to win money, simple and quite effective the way I do it and how I invented my own system from MDawg's successes he gracefully wrote about, ect and so on and so forth!!
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Proof is in the pudding and there is a whole lot of 'pudding cash' in my pockets and accounts because of MDawg.
Aren’t posts of this ilk limited to the betting systems threads? Why do you continue to pollute what theoretically is a thread that had some potential?
September 10th, 2021 at 6:06:29 PM
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The wise man speaks when he has something to say. The fool speaks because he has to say something.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
September 10th, 2021 at 7:09:33 PM
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Indeed.
When engaged in hero worship one must actually demonstrate their devotion and love quite frequently.
When engaged in hero worship one must actually demonstrate their devotion and love quite frequently.
"What, me worry?"
September 10th, 2021 at 8:44:33 PM
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Quote: mosesWho doesnt gamble? My friends often laugh when I say "I dont gamble."
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You play cards for money... right?
May the cards fall in your favor.
September 10th, 2021 at 8:54:05 PM
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You gamble everytime you get in your var.
September 11th, 2021 at 11:23:35 AM
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Quote: FastEddieYou gamble everytime you get in your var
AP's should drive Volvos.
Our 740 Turbo was rear-ended by a small Asian import; only a scratch on our rear bumper, but the other car was totaled.
There is no substitue for good old Swedish steel and overengineering.
"What, me worry?"
September 11th, 2021 at 11:44:10 AM
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Only difference is the stock market is positive EV.Quote: tuttigymThe second largest casino: the Stock Market.
It’s all about making that GTA
September 11th, 2021 at 11:48:41 AM
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Quote: MrVAP's should drive Volvos.
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Our 740 Turbo was rear-ended by a small Asian import; only a scratch on our rear bumper, but the other car was totaled.
There is no substitue for good old Swedish steel and overengineering.
Do they ship the good old Swedish steel to China, where they then build the cars? I'd have thought they would use Chinese steel and save a lot of money.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
September 11th, 2021 at 12:12:21 PM
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i believe the chinese have owned volvo for quite some time now. i doubt the good old fashioned engineering is quite the sameQuote: MrVAP's should drive Volvos.
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Our 740 Turbo was rear-ended by a small Asian import; only a scratch on our rear bumper, but the other car was totaled.
There is no substitue for good old Swedish steel and overengineering.
All persons reading my posts gamble at their own risk, as I do. I don't ordinarily dispute math. I may dispute math I don't understand, or if I think it's faulty. I am not a conspiracy theorist.
September 11th, 2021 at 12:56:29 PM
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Quote: Ace2Only difference is the stock market is positive EV.
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As long as the stock is going up it is positive.
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September 11th, 2021 at 1:02:06 PM
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Quote: Marcusclark66Quote: Ace2Only difference is the stock market is positive EV.
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As long as the stock is going up it is positive.link to original post
Another post that exhibits a deep lack of understanding of the term EV. It is nearly incomprehensible that such a post is made at a math oriented forum.
September 11th, 2021 at 1:03:31 PM
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Quote: SOOPOOQuote: Marcusclark66Quote: Ace2Only difference is the stock market is positive EV.
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As long as the stock is going up it is positive.link to original post
Another post that exhibits a deep lack of understanding of the term EV. It is nearly incomprehensible that such a post is made at a math oriented forum.link to original post
This hasn't been a math oriented forum for quite a spell.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
September 11th, 2021 at 1:07:09 PM
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Quote: billryanThe wise man speaks when he has something to say. The fool speaks because he has to say something.
I loved stuff like this when I was young, now I just deposit it in the round filing cabinet.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
September 11th, 2021 at 1:20:10 PM
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Quote: Wellbushi believe the chinese have owned volvo for quite some time now. i doubt the good old fashioned engineering is quite the samelink to original postQuote: MrVAP's should drive Volvos.
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Our 740 Turbo was rear-ended by a small Asian import; only a scratch on our rear bumper, but the other car was totaled.
There is no substitue for good old Swedish steel and overengineering.
Volvo has been owned by Geely since 2010. It's a complicated relationship. A couple months ago Volvo bought the Geely manufacturing facilities in China.
I had a 2017 Volvo S90. It was a magnificent, awful car.
A falling knife has no handle.
September 11th, 2021 at 3:52:29 PM
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Quote: SOOPOOQuote: Marcusclark66Quote: Ace2Only difference is the stock market is positive EV.
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As long as the stock is going up it is positive.link to original post
Another post that exhibits a deep lack of understanding of the term EV. It is nearly incomprehensible that such a post is made at a math oriented forum.link to original post
Lack of understanding? Seriously man. I understand what it takes. I win extremely well I believe. I post in detail how and what I wagered, won or lost.
My sessions are extremely minute because I found what evens the odds to favor myself, my thoughts and my actions at the table.
No, I don't sit there playing, wagering hundreds of hands for numerous shoes. All I need is a few hands to win, walk, cash out and take a several day to week rest at it. It works for me!
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September 11th, 2021 at 6:56:28 PM
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.Quote: Marcusclark66Quote: SOOPOOQuote: Marcusclark66Quote: Ace2Only difference is the stock market is positive EV.
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As long as the stock is going up it is positive.link to original post
Another post that exhibits a deep lack of understanding of the term EV. It is nearly incomprehensible that such a post is made at a math oriented forum.link to original post
Lack of understanding? Seriously man. I understand what it takes. I win extremely well I believe. I post in detail how and what I wagered, won or lost.
My sessions are extremely minute because I found what evens the odds to favor myself, my thoughts and my actions at the table.
No, I don't sit there playing, wagering hundreds of hands for numerous shoes. All I need is a few hands to win, walk, cash out and take a several day to week rest at it. It works for me!link to original post
I never said that so far whatever system you are using has not worked for you. All I am saying is that you have no clue what EV is, nor it’s implications to gambling.
September 11th, 2021 at 7:16:30 PM
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Quote: SOOPOO.Quote: Marcusclark66Quote: SOOPOOQuote: Marcusclark66Quote: Ace2Only difference is the stock market is positive EV.
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As long as the stock is going up it is positive.link to original post
Another post that exhibits a deep lack of understanding of the term EV. It is nearly incomprehensible that such a post is made at a math oriented forum.link to original post
Lack of understanding? Seriously man. I understand what it takes. I win extremely well I believe. I post in detail how and what I wagered, won or lost.
My sessions are extremely minute because I found what evens the odds to favor myself, my thoughts and my actions at the table.
No, I don't sit there playing, wagering hundreds of hands for numerous shoes. All I need is a few hands to win, walk, cash out and take a several day to week rest at it. It works for me!link to original post
I never said that so far whatever system you are using has not worked for you. All I am saying is that you have no clue what EV is, nor it’s implications to gambling.link to original post
Applies to the 'T':
Winners don't have to know everything.
Winners don't know everything!
Winners don't have to write long complex and statistical articles that will never 'always apply'.
Oh yeah, I forgot, how come the cage cashiers must ask. "Sorry sir, before I am able to cash those chips you have to tell me how you were able to win them".
And also, oh never mind, that's enough.
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September 11th, 2021 at 7:44:06 PM
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It does not WORK for you, it may have resulted in winning money thus far. If the math doesn't show whatever you are doing is over 100%, then it didn't/ doesn'tQuote: Marcusclark66Quote: SOOPOO.Quote: Marcusclark66Quote: SOOPOOQuote: Marcusclark66Quote: Ace2Only difference is the stock market is positive EV.
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As long as the stock is going up it is positive.link to original post
Another post that exhibits a deep lack of understanding of the term EV. It is nearly incomprehensible that such a post is made at a math oriented forum.link to original post
Lack of understanding? Seriously man. I understand what it takes. I win extremely well I believe. I post in detail how and what I wagered, won or lost.
My sessions are extremely minute because I found what evens the odds to favor myself, my thoughts and my actions at the table.
No, I don't sit there playing, wagering hundreds of hands for numerous shoes. All I need is a few hands to win, walk, cash out and take a several day to week rest at it. It works for me!link to original post
I never said that so far whatever system you are using has not worked for you. All I am saying is that you have no clue what EV is, nor it’s implications to gambling.link to original post
Applies to the 'T':
Winners don't have to know everything.
Winners don't know everything!
Winners don't have to write long complex and statistical articles that will never 'always apply'.
Oh yeah, I forgot, how come the cage cashiers must ask. "Sorry sir, before I am able to cash those chips you have to tell me how you were able to win them".
And also, oh never mind, that's enough.link to original post
WORK for you or anyone. Luck/positive variance will eventually get eaten up by the house edge.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
September 12th, 2021 at 9:58:44 AM
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Quote: Marcusclark66link to original post
Applies to the 'T':
Winners don't have to know everything.
Winners don't know everything!
Winners don't have to write long complex and statistical articles that will never 'always apply'.
Oh yeah, I forgot, how come the cage cashiers must ask. "Sorry sir, before I am able to cash those chips you have to tell me how you were able to win them".
And also, oh never mind, that's enough.
Don't fight it Mr. Clark. These EV folks talk the talk very loudly but hardly, if ever, walk the walk. Their "math" has them totally defeated, totally deflated, and blindly risk averted. In some ways, they are very smart (read this correctly); their financial circumstances do not allow them to play and lose which is a good and prudent thing.
tuttigym
September 16th, 2021 at 10:53:48 AM
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If you'd like to watch Theroux's VEGAS documentary it is available here:
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6bt6y7
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6od02h
https://www.veoh.com/watch/v396081wYZ39fWx?h1
The former International / Hilton / Westgate is not much of a casino these days - maybe 75 tables from what I understand. And I am sure that that 15000 sq. ft. suite Alan the mattress millionaire stayed in has been broken up into smaller rooms. (Alan, by the way, supposedly gambled away all his money after selling his mattress manufacturing plant and ended up an Uber driver. Richard Wilk actually confirmed that Alan is an Uber driver, but claims that he just does this because he likes it not because he is broke, and that Alan no longer comes to Vegas.)
Speaking of going downhill, did Wilk indeed go from being an independent host for uber high rollers, to working for The D?
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6bt6y7
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6od02h
https://www.veoh.com/watch/v396081wYZ39fWx?h1
The former International / Hilton / Westgate is not much of a casino these days - maybe 75 tables from what I understand. And I am sure that that 15000 sq. ft. suite Alan the mattress millionaire stayed in has been broken up into smaller rooms. (Alan, by the way, supposedly gambled away all his money after selling his mattress manufacturing plant and ended up an Uber driver. Richard Wilk actually confirmed that Alan is an Uber driver, but claims that he just does this because he likes it not because he is broke, and that Alan no longer comes to Vegas.)
Speaking of going downhill, did Wilk indeed go from being an independent host for uber high rollers, to working for The D?
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I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
September 20th, 2021 at 4:40:49 PM
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Sounds very clever Marcus. I hope it continues to work 👍Quote: Marcusclark66Lack of understanding? Seriously man. I understand what it takes. I win extremely well I believe. I post in detail how and what I wagered, won or lost.
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My sessions are extremely minute because I found what evens the odds to favor myself, my thoughts and my actions at the table.
No, I don't sit there playing, wagering hundreds of hands for numerous shoes. All I need is a few hands to win, walk, cash out and take a several day to week rest at it. It works for me!
All persons reading my posts gamble at their own risk, as I do. I don't ordinarily dispute math. I may dispute math I don't understand, or if I think it's faulty. I am not a conspiracy theorist.
September 20th, 2021 at 4:44:12 PM
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joke of the day for the 11th of Sept 😊👍Quote: billryanThis hasn't been a math oriented forum for quite a spell.
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All persons reading my posts gamble at their own risk, as I do. I don't ordinarily dispute math. I may dispute math I don't understand, or if I think it's faulty. I am not a conspiracy theorist.
September 20th, 2021 at 4:56:27 PM
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One thing I noticed about that doco from Theroux was, once again, someone (Alan) smoking while playing. That would be something Australia-wide I'd say, that is no longer part of the gambling scene here. Not even the smell of it in the carpet. That's something that would help keep gamblers gambling at the b&m casinos here, along with the fact that online gambling is prohibited here.
All persons reading my posts gamble at their own risk, as I do. I don't ordinarily dispute math. I may dispute math I don't understand, or if I think it's faulty. I am not a conspiracy theorist.
