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coachbelly
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December 7th, 2020 at 9:37:52 PM permalink
Quote: DeMango

Have we ruled out Coach is Rob Singer?



Yes I ruled it out. Is that good enough for you?
AxelWolf
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December 7th, 2020 at 9:59:08 PM permalink
Quote: coachbelly

I disagree.

In each case, the judges would have no confirmation bias.

The experts would judge if the evidence presented is authentic or fabricated.

Do you actually understand what the challenge is? Why does it matter if it's determined real or fake. THAT'S THE CHALLENGE, HE CLAIMS NO ON CAN FAKE IT so it must all be real. Please explain how you interpret it. It seems simple to me. One only need to post up a reasonable amount of pictures/video's of documents/ paperwork etc. that would make it seem as if that person was a high roller who owns various things and plays at higher levels. They will already know going in that it's a ruse. Everything could actually be real but just not belonging to the person presetting them. How do you propose the person guarantee he will be paid if successful.

Obviously it's not all going to be the same. If Someone posts up pictures of 5 Patek Philippe's or fake proof they own Lamborghinis then that seems like a reasonable trade off.

Why don't you ask him to clarify what he's requiring? Who do you think should determine if that person was successful.

edit to add, instead of just chiming in and basically trolling why not actually help nail down some reasonable terms to make something possible and stop with all the word games and BS that gets away from the actual intentions of the bets and challenges.
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
AxelWolf
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December 7th, 2020 at 10:12:24 PM permalink
Quote: coachbelly

Can your proof of deposit at the secret casino be faked?

You are disqualifying yourself from the challenge....for unspecified reasons.

Agreed?

It could be faked easily, however, that wouldn't be acceptable as far as I'm concerned. Why do you focus on that method? That would be the least likely method I would choose personally. If cash in hand, or funds held by a trusted member isn't acceptable, then it seems as if something fishy is afoot.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
coachbelly
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December 7th, 2020 at 10:33:36 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Do you actually understand what the challenge is? Why does it matter if it's determined real or fake. THAT'S THE CHALLENGE, HE CLAIMS NO ON CAN FAKE IT so it must be real. Please explain how you interpret it



What's your point, that anyone can fake something to the level of authenticity of MDawg's evidence ?

Why should the judges know it's a ruse? Let them see the evidence without knowing whether it's faked or not.

Then they can judge the authenticity of the faked pictures/videos of documents/paperwork without prejudice and decide if they pass muster as authentic.

MDawg claims that his evidence is real, and no one can fake that much and have it be judged authentic.

Put your fake evidence together, and let the judges examine it.

I'll bet that the judges will recognize your documentation as faked.

Then have them examine MDawg's evidence, I'll bet they'll recognize his documentation as authentic.
AxelWolf
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December 7th, 2020 at 10:35:14 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

I guess somebody up there must like me then If there's no other explanation.

There's definitely another explanation and it has nothing to do with a higher power and everything to do with the title of a video I seen recently.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
AxelWolf
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December 7th, 2020 at 10:38:57 PM permalink
Quote: coachbelly

What's your point, that anyone can fake something to the level of authenticity of MDawg's evidence ?

Why should the judges know it's a ruse? Let them see the evidence without knowing whether it's faked or not.

Then they can judge the authenticity of the faked pictures/videos of documents/paperwork without prejudice and decide if they pass muster as authentic.

MDawg claims that his evidence is real, and no one can fake that much and have it be judged authentic.

Put your fake evidence together, and let the judges examine it.

I'll bet that the judges will recognize your documentation as faked.

Then have them examine MDawg's evidence, I'll bet they'll recognize his documentation as authentic.

Sound good to me. Now, how do i guarantee Ill be paid if successful?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
coachbelly
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December 7th, 2020 at 10:42:22 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Why do you focus on that method?



Because that is the requirement of the challenge.

If you want to accept the challenge, then it's required that you deposit $50K at the cage in the casino where you will observe MDawg play.

I want you to observe MDawg's play.

In order to do that you must comply with his requirements, which are reasonable and without risk to you.

Those are the rules, if you don't like the rules then don't play.
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December 7th, 2020 at 10:45:04 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Sound good to me. Now, how do i guarantee Ill be paid if successful?



What conditions would guarantee your payment if successful?
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December 7th, 2020 at 10:57:14 PM permalink
These two threads should now be combined and the name changed to the never-ending troll of MDawg and coach belly.

Axel, you know how belly works. He will never stop his game playing. The only way this ends is if we all collectively ignore them. And it won't really end there, MDawg will keep bumping the thread because he needs the attention, but at that point he is talking to himself, which he pretty much is now anyway.
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December 7th, 2020 at 11:05:15 PM permalink
Quote: coachbelly

What conditions would guarantee your payment if successful?

FYI I'm not getting into a long thing with you since you're not even the one who can make it possible. Anything I say I retain the right to change(We are just discussing possibilities). He will just read whatever I say and use what I'm willing to do, or not do, and then set his conditions in a manner he assumes I won't agree with.

I'm not sure if you're asking me what conditions I'm requiring or what. Let me re ask my question. Assuming we come up with some reasonable terms regarding this challenge, there's time and effort involved, but I have no reasonable guarantee I'll get payed as of yet.

What do YOU and , or HE propose for a guarantee? And no, his word that he will pay isn't good enough. Very few people would think that's reasonable or acceptable. I think there's only a few obvious choices but lets see what you and he suggest.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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