Lovecomps
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January 29th, 2019 at 9:50:59 AM permalink
Hello all. I'd like an option on the following;

I'll be spending Super Bowl weekend at the GN. I only play BJ and Craps whereas my wife relegates herself to the slot machines. If I gave the pit boss my card then gave it to her for her to put in the machines will it show that it's being used at two locations at the same time and get caught when I get rated?

My gut says no, because the casinos must have figured out that trick to deal with people trying to up their players level for more goodie. I'm not going to do it (I get excellent comps at the GN as it is and see no need to get into an argument about it with my host) but my curiosity it just up.
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January 29th, 2019 at 10:02:01 AM permalink
Using cards in two machines at the same time is usually fine. A machine and table might be a problem depending on the system the casino uses. I've seen floor people tell a patron they couldn't clock him into a table game because his card was still in a slot. I think the issue is they're worried about a single player double dipping by taking a break from the table and playing slots. Ask the floor.
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January 29th, 2019 at 10:08:16 AM permalink
Quote: sabre

Using cards in two machines at the same time is usually fine. A machine and table might be a problem depending on the system the casino uses. I've seen floor people tell a patron they couldn't clock him into a table game because his card was still in a slot. I think the issue is they're worried about a single player double dipping by taking a break from the table and playing slots. Ask the floor.



Interesting. I would guess the other way around would be fine though. Have the table player get initially rated first before letting her begin playing slots. Because i could see players cards get denied by slot machines all the time due to a slow pit boss not knowing you left the table.
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January 29th, 2019 at 10:26:53 AM permalink
A few times, I've had a card rejected with the notion the card was already in use. It usually clears itself pretty quickly.
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January 29th, 2019 at 10:32:47 AM permalink
Get two cards on your account and each use one. I doubt there will be any issue.
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January 29th, 2019 at 1:41:06 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

Get two cards on your account and each use one. I doubt there will be any issue.

Any places that do 'limit' card usage I've never seen below 2 cards. So both she and you should be able to play on the same card, at the same time, and both earn points. There's nothing wrong with this... you're not only together, but gambling so you SHOULD earn points/comps. Make the casino work for you... You're the patron!
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February 7th, 2019 at 4:28:50 PM permalink
I agree that you should be fine without doing anything. Something else you might want to consider, with mLife you can link accounts if you reside at the same address:

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Two members with the same address may link individual M life Rewards accounts to share their tier, Tier Credit and Express Comps balances. Both members must visit an M life desk in the resort and show a valid identification to link accounts. M life maintains separate account numbers and account histories for every member. Restrictions apply at MGM Grand Detroit and Borgata.


Maybe something similar is available at GN.
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February 7th, 2019 at 11:27:35 PM permalink
I dated a girl for about 4 years. We would both use my card. She played slots, I mostly played table games. Sometimes a slot next to her. No Ceasar's property ever said anything. We were invited to Super Bowl parties, free rooms, free food, etc. constantly. If they would have ever complained or told us to stop we would have played somewhere else that wanted our thousands of dollars each year.


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February 7th, 2019 at 11:58:45 PM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

I dated a girl for about 4 years. We would both use my card. She played slots, I mostly played table games. Sometimes a slot next to her. No Ceasar's property ever said anything. We were invited to Super Bowl parties, free rooms, free food, etc. constantly. If they would have ever complained or told us to stop we would have played somewhere else that wanted our thousands of dollars each year.


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February 8th, 2019 at 7:53:35 AM permalink
The answer to this question really depends on your level of play and where you are.

First off, if you're trying to build status with a players club to get to certain tier you should do your best to have both of your play in one card. Some casinos are strict and some are more lenient about letting two people play on a single card account. I can't speak for the GN.

What my wife and I do is a bit methodical. We both have separate accounts. Mine is the primary for getting the main comps for rooms, food, tickets, etc. We've already reached a certain level of tier at our preferred casino, so we don't have much desire to achieve anything higher. Our plan is to usually start the trip using my account first for both of our plays (this includes tables and slots). We have a good idea how much play we need to reach to cover the comp food and etc for the given trip. Once we hit the desired amount of play (X amount of coin ins or X amount of avg bet X hour X day), we switch to my wife's card. We do this because we personally feel that the points we get from the casino is lousy and can only be redeemed for food or overpriced shirts at the gift shop. And since food will be comped on pretty much every trip, the points are useless to us. When we start showing some play on my wife's card, we see some amazing offers for her. I think there is an algorithm set where they know we play enough on my card and know we are loyal customers, so the offers are a bit underwhelming. However, since she shows just enough play every other trip, the casino tries to entice pretty good offers for my wife's card. We have a lot of friends and family who love visiting Vegas with us. Every once in awhile, I book my room or suite with my card and my wife books a separate comp or discounted room with her offer and she also gets some free play and food credits. It's not much, but on our last month's trip we've calculated hundreds of dollars in savings by getting a comp room for friends over the weekend + some freeplay + food credit from my wife. I definitely believe there is a diminishing marginal return on the value you get back on your card once you hit a certain tier. You get more offers and bigger return if playing on two cards with given scenario.
darkoz
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February 8th, 2019 at 8:39:46 AM permalink
Quote: SiegfriedRoy

The answer to this question really depends on your level of play and where you are.

First off, if you're trying to build status with a players club to get to certain tier you should do your best to have both of your play in one card. Some casinos are strict and some are more lenient about letting two people play on a single card account. I can't speak for the GN.

What my wife and I do is a bit methodical. We both have separate accounts. Mine is the primary for getting the main comps for rooms, food, tickets, etc. We've already reached a certain level of tier at our preferred casino, so we don't have much desire to achieve anything higher. Our plan is to usually start the trip using my account first for both of our plays (this includes tables and slots). We have a good idea how much play we need to reach to cover the comp food and etc for the given trip. Once we hit the desired amount of play (X amount of coin ins or X amount of avg bet X hour X day), we switch to my wife's card. We do this because we personally feel that the points we get from the casino is lousy and can only be redeemed for food or overpriced shirts at the gift shop. And since food will be comped on pretty much every trip, the points are useless to us. When we start showing some play on my wife's card, we see some amazing offers for her. I think there is an algorithm set where they know we play enough on my card and know we are loyal customers, so the offers are a bit underwhelming. However, since she shows just enough play every other trip, the casino tries to entice pretty good offers for my wife's card. We have a lot of friends and family who love visiting Vegas with us. Every once in awhile, I book my room or suite with my card and my wife books a separate comp or discounted room with her offer and she also gets some free play and food credits. It's not much, but on our last month's trip we've calculated hundreds of dollars in savings by getting a comp room for friends over the weekend + some freeplay + food credit from my wife. I definitely believe there is a diminishing marginal return on the value you get back on your card once you hit a certain tier. You get more offers and bigger return if playing on two cards with given scenario.



So just imagine the return if using 100 cards
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February 8th, 2019 at 8:45:23 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

So just imagine the return if using 100 cards



Why stop there, how about 1000? Only if we had that many drivers licenses or id to make multiple cards.
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February 8th, 2019 at 8:50:03 AM permalink
Quote: SiegfriedRoy

Why stop there, how about 1000? Only if we had that many drivers licenses or id to make multiple cards.



Lol

I never said anything about using false identity or ID
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February 8th, 2019 at 1:37:04 PM permalink
Well, I got my answer,

I went to the GN for their invatation only Super Bowl event and got a second card. After I used it to buy in for a marker and was officially recognized by the computer in the pit as playing at the table my wife used the second copy of my card on the slots. When I went to my host at checkout he examined my play and casually mentioned what my play was and where it was done. Since the Craps and slots were simultaneous than either the computer didn't tell him or he just didn't care,

If someone wants a trip report then feel free to ask.
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darkoz
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February 8th, 2019 at 4:13:48 PM permalink
Quote: Lovecomps

Well, I got my answer,

I went to the GN for their invatation only Super Bowl event and got a second card. After I used it to buy in for a marker and was officially recognized by the computer in the pit as playing at the table my wife used the second copy of my card on the slots. When I went to my host at checkout he examined my play and casually mentioned what my play was and where it was done. Since the Craps and slots were simultaneous than either the computer didn't tell him or he just didn't care,

If someone wants a trip report then feel free to ask.



Why should he care. You are in the casino. If you lose $1000 at tables and your wife loses $1000 at slots that adds up to $2000 total either way

Furthermore as a company he shouldn't be looking at it as you getting double comps but as your wife not getting credit on a second card (which would be double comps) you basically just saved them some money
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February 8th, 2019 at 6:47:39 PM permalink
Quote: Fishoutofwater

Darkoz, it seems to me after reading over a lot of posts, that you really do like to brag a lot .



Yea I probably do brag a lot

But that post wasnt bragging it was telling it like it is

I saw a doc on breakfast cereals. You know why they do mail in promos vs just putting gifts in the box ala cracker jacks?

Because they find they sell more boxes thanks to the promised promotions BUT save money because 50% of the time people are lazy and dont send in for them. Less gifts handed out more money saved. Simple

Trust me casinos think the same way. They are enticing you to use your players card to earn gifts and perks but would be perfectly fine if you just gamble without a card.

Or saving them money by having 2 people share one card. Half as many buffets and free rooms they would have handed out
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