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July 3rd, 2018 at 10:35:29 AM
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Just arrived at Oceans (formerly known as Revel) - they put me in the big boy suite this Tim e-- I did not expect this nor will I expect it in the future
I have a video walk through of the room but do not know how to post a video from my phone here
I have a video walk through of the room but do not know how to post a video from my phone here
July 3rd, 2018 at 10:56:12 AM
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Wow. Nice digs.
While you are there can you check out that situation:
..... One craps table guaranteed to be five dollars all night long with up to 5x odds.
...... One craps table guaranteed to be ten dollars all night long with 0x or 10x odds but nothing in between.
I've already confirmed that each of those two tables existed during the two day 'soft opening' but I would like to know if that situation will continue or not,
While you are there can you check out that situation:
..... One craps table guaranteed to be five dollars all night long with up to 5x odds.
...... One craps table guaranteed to be ten dollars all night long with 0x or 10x odds but nothing in between.
I've already confirmed that each of those two tables existed during the two day 'soft opening' but I would like to know if that situation will continue or not,
July 3rd, 2018 at 11:05:51 AM
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. May you be pleasantly surprised in the future.Quote: aceofspades- I did not expect this nor will I expect it in the future
July 3rd, 2018 at 11:34:04 AM
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Sent money via wire transfer - been in credit office 45 minutes while they attempt to figure out how to scan my license into the system (they’ve tried literally around 20 times)
July 3rd, 2018 at 12:41:06 PM
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Took over an hour in the credit office - finally finished - they informed me I was the first INCOMING WIRE TRANSFER since they opened (Really???) - ran into a couple of pit critters I knew from back in the day (including one who was a 'cooler' every time she came near me - finally got my Black card printed -- there are a lot of quirks Ocean needs to work out
July 3rd, 2018 at 2:11:28 PM
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Even after a two day soft opening they are still working out quirks? Well I'm sure its an adventure for you and the room is really great. Rather than waiting and waiting for them to find the first wire transfer they've ever received it might have been better to insist on some non-neg chips and spend some time gambling. The frustration of the errant transfer can be off puting on card counting skills or something.Quote: aceofspades-- there are a lot of quirks Ocean needs to work out
July 3rd, 2018 at 3:27:19 PM
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So I was in the room and the England v Colombia World Cup match was on tv - England was leading 1-0 and they were in injury time - I told myself I would go play once the game was over (figuring there was only about 90 seconds left) - well, Colombia got a corner kick and headed one in to tie the game -- then, it goes into double extra time and penalty kicks - England won a great game and then I finally ventured down to the Ultra Lounge
I ran into a long-time lurker on these boards (he never posts), exchanged pleasantries and wished him good luck.
I started my blackjack session in UltraLounge by requesting some of my front money. This took about a half hour as the credit department created a secondary player's card number for me (despite my insistence that my host had already created one) so, it took 30 minutes for anyone to figure out that I now had two accounts and that my front money was only showing on one of those accounts -- who knows where my comps and tier points are going
So, the shoe started without much fanfare - win some lose some until, mid-shoe, when I was still about even, I was dealt AA with 300 in the betting circle versus a dealer 7
First Ace: dealt a 3 for a 14
Second Ace: dealt a 6 for 17
Naturally, the dealer flipped over an Ace of her own for 18
Two hands later, with 300 up again, I was dealt 55 versus a dealer 3 - doubled and was dealt a 3 for 13
Dealer turned over an 8 then took a 10 just to rub it in for 21
A few hands later, with 200 up, I was dealt AA again, this time versus a dealer King
First Ace: dealt a 5 for 16
Second Ace: dealt a 7 for 18
Dealer flips over a 9 for 19
At the end of the first shoe, I was down 1600
Second shoe began rather well with two naturals in a row for me
I then got stung by losing on split Aces again but, that seemed to be the low point as I recuperated (slowly) over the second and third shoes, the 1600 I was down and, on the last hand of the third shoe, had 200 up and was dealt a QQ v dealer 9 - dealer turned over a 10, bing bang boom, the trip is +200 and time for dinner
I ran into a long-time lurker on these boards (he never posts), exchanged pleasantries and wished him good luck.
I started my blackjack session in UltraLounge by requesting some of my front money. This took about a half hour as the credit department created a secondary player's card number for me (despite my insistence that my host had already created one) so, it took 30 minutes for anyone to figure out that I now had two accounts and that my front money was only showing on one of those accounts -- who knows where my comps and tier points are going
So, the shoe started without much fanfare - win some lose some until, mid-shoe, when I was still about even, I was dealt AA with 300 in the betting circle versus a dealer 7
First Ace: dealt a 3 for a 14
Second Ace: dealt a 6 for 17
Naturally, the dealer flipped over an Ace of her own for 18
Two hands later, with 300 up again, I was dealt 55 versus a dealer 3 - doubled and was dealt a 3 for 13
Dealer turned over an 8 then took a 10 just to rub it in for 21
A few hands later, with 200 up, I was dealt AA again, this time versus a dealer King
First Ace: dealt a 5 for 16
Second Ace: dealt a 7 for 18
Dealer flips over a 9 for 19
At the end of the first shoe, I was down 1600
Second shoe began rather well with two naturals in a row for me
I then got stung by losing on split Aces again but, that seemed to be the low point as I recuperated (slowly) over the second and third shoes, the 1600 I was down and, on the last hand of the third shoe, had 200 up and was dealt a QQ v dealer 9 - dealer turned over a 10, bing bang boom, the trip is +200 and time for dinner
July 3rd, 2018 at 4:54:20 PM
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July 3rd, 2018 at 4:55:21 PM
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After a packet of beef jerky for a snack, I headed back down to the casino floor and, once again, into he Ultra Lounge, sitting at the same table I was at earlier -- a man missing most of his teeth asked if I would mind if he joined the table - naturally, I gestured for him to sit down and he turned out to be a nice guy -- he couldn't win a double or split but, a nice guy nonetheless
The first hand of the shoe, with 200 on the felt, began with a bang, 88 versus dealer 10, I split:
First 8: dealt a 3, doubled and dealt a 5 for 16
Second 8: dealt a 10 for 18
Dealer: turns over a 10
However, I was dealt three naturals in the shoe and, buy the end of the shoe, I was up another 500
Trip is +700
I then ventured out to find a Wheel of Fortune slot machine to use my free slot play on - as I sat down, I realized I had left my player's card in the Ultra Lounge so, I trekked back there and caught the blackjack bug again
I sat down for another shoe, this time head's up - the highlights being:
3 dealer blackjacks
Split AA versus dealer A and was painted on both with the dealer busting anyway
Split 66 versus dealer 5:
First 6: dealt a 3, doubled and dealt a 10 for 19
Second 6: dealt an Ace, doubled and dealt a Queen for 17
Dealer turned over a 5, then drew a 5, then drew a 9 BUST!
By the end of the shoe I had gained another 900
Trip is +1600
The first hand of the shoe, with 200 on the felt, began with a bang, 88 versus dealer 10, I split:
First 8: dealt a 3, doubled and dealt a 5 for 16
Second 8: dealt a 10 for 18
Dealer: turns over a 10
However, I was dealt three naturals in the shoe and, buy the end of the shoe, I was up another 500
Trip is +700
I then ventured out to find a Wheel of Fortune slot machine to use my free slot play on - as I sat down, I realized I had left my player's card in the Ultra Lounge so, I trekked back there and caught the blackjack bug again
I sat down for another shoe, this time head's up - the highlights being:
3 dealer blackjacks
Split AA versus dealer A and was painted on both with the dealer busting anyway
Split 66 versus dealer 5:
First 6: dealt a 3, doubled and dealt a 10 for 19
Second 6: dealt an Ace, doubled and dealt a Queen for 17
Dealer turned over a 5, then drew a 5, then drew a 9 BUST!
By the end of the shoe I had gained another 900
Trip is +1600
Last edited by: aceofspades on Jul 3, 2018
July 3rd, 2018 at 5:42:24 PM
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Quote: aceofspadesthey informed me I was the first INCOMING WIRE TRANSFER since they opened (Really???)
That was a lie. I can 100% guarantee that. LOL
July 3rd, 2018 at 5:43:33 PM
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Can I ask what you're using to upload pictures?
The room is amazing. Nice job...keep the positive variance going!
The room is amazing. Nice job...keep the positive variance going!
July 3rd, 2018 at 6:09:21 PM
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Took a short respite before heading back downstairs -- the line for the Premier lounge was a clusterF**K
They need Gordon Ramsey to manage that place -- there were tons of tables open but still a line of about 20 people long -- I joined the line and, after about 10 minutes the hostess came around to ask who had a Black (highest tier) and who had a Platinum (next highest tier) -- she then took some random people from towards teh back of the line and let them in because they had Black cards - meanwhile, a few others and I also had Black cards - the hostess was utterly confused and disorganized -- she then decided to take all the Platinum people and move them to a new line - her idea was to take one Black and one Platinum in turn -- everyone asked how that was any different than leaving everyone on the same line other than those in the back of the line now ran over and were first in Platinum -- it also made having a Black card ( which is supposed to be a perk and allow you to first access to lounges) irrelevant -- when I asked her to explain her thinking, she screamed "I AM NOT THE ENEMY!!!" -- I then emailed my host informing him of the situation
I then ventured to play some more cards since it was obvious I was never going to get into the player's lounge
I sat through a shoe with a friendly dealer and a pit boss who remembered me from the Revel days -- the first half of the shoe was horrific followed by a great second half
Trip is now +2k
They need Gordon Ramsey to manage that place -- there were tons of tables open but still a line of about 20 people long -- I joined the line and, after about 10 minutes the hostess came around to ask who had a Black (highest tier) and who had a Platinum (next highest tier) -- she then took some random people from towards teh back of the line and let them in because they had Black cards - meanwhile, a few others and I also had Black cards - the hostess was utterly confused and disorganized -- she then decided to take all the Platinum people and move them to a new line - her idea was to take one Black and one Platinum in turn -- everyone asked how that was any different than leaving everyone on the same line other than those in the back of the line now ran over and were first in Platinum -- it also made having a Black card ( which is supposed to be a perk and allow you to first access to lounges) irrelevant -- when I asked her to explain her thinking, she screamed "I AM NOT THE ENEMY!!!" -- I then emailed my host informing him of the situation
I then ventured to play some more cards since it was obvious I was never going to get into the player's lounge
I sat through a shoe with a friendly dealer and a pit boss who remembered me from the Revel days -- the first half of the shoe was horrific followed by a great second half
Trip is now +2k
July 3rd, 2018 at 6:11:40 PM
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Quote: Jmarch79Can I ask what you're using to upload pictures?
The room is amazing. Nice job...keep the positive variance going!
www.imgur.com then you have to take the code for the message boards and tailor it to how WOV accepts picture links
July 3rd, 2018 at 6:30:42 PM
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Quote: aceofspadeswhen I asked her to explain her thinking, she screamed "I AM NOT THE ENEMY!!!" -- I then emailed my host informing him of the situation
What sh*tty service. Let us know what the host says. I understand that being a hostess can be stressful, but that is an awful way to react when dealing with guests.
I got a plan, we take all your picks we reverse them like one of those twilight zone episodes where everything is the opposite. You say "black" we go white.
July 3rd, 2018 at 6:37:57 PM
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Growing pains brother, growing pains. It’s new and they threw a lot together quickly to get open.
May have to accept stuff like this for a while, no magic wand unfortunately for them except time. Obviously this one wasn’t a good hire.
Keep winning and enjoy your happy place!
May have to accept stuff like this for a while, no magic wand unfortunately for them except time. Obviously this one wasn’t a good hire.
Keep winning and enjoy your happy place!
July 3rd, 2018 at 6:49:10 PM
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Those blackjack sequences were a bit tough on my fingertips but I was able to eventually figure most of them out. Congratulations on being in the plus column. Best to not ask questions of the hostess.. give orders instead. It will either work or it won't but questions will rarely work.
July 3rd, 2018 at 6:52:37 PM
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Quote: aceofspades
Split 66 versus dealer 5:
First 6: dealt a 3, doubled and dealt a 10 for 19
Second 6: dealt an Ace, hit again and dealt a Queen for 17
Dealer turned over a 5, then drew a 5, then drew a 9 BUST!
Left a unit on the table. Ai ya!
July 3rd, 2018 at 6:58:12 PM
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Quote: Jmarch79Left a unit on the table. Ai ya!
Edited - I did double
July 3rd, 2018 at 8:42:15 PM
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After the last session, and still having had no dinner, I relaxed in the room and eventually made my way back down to the Ultra Lounge. I played about 4 shoes hovering around even for the buy in of 2k -- then, about ¾ of the way into the 5th shoe, I was ahead 200 for the buy-in, then proceeded to lose 6 hands, push 2 hands, then lose another 6 hands in a row
I was now only +1k for the trip so I decided to switch tables
Not a good idea -- I lost the first 5 hands at the new table then treaded water for two shoes while the dealer routinely made 20 or 21 whenever I would double down -- all the winnings from today were given back
Trip is now Even and I am done for the night (still have 630 free slot play)
I was now only +1k for the trip so I decided to switch tables
Not a good idea -- I lost the first 5 hands at the new table then treaded water for two shoes while the dealer routinely made 20 or 21 whenever I would double down -- all the winnings from today were given back
Trip is now Even and I am done for the night (still have 630 free slot play)
July 3rd, 2018 at 9:08:35 PM
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Yikes, that got rough. Good call taking a break.
Be careful if you have ADD and need to constantly shuffle the chips. I have cuts on my fingers from the weekend...those chips are sharp.
Be careful if you have ADD and need to constantly shuffle the chips. I have cuts on my fingers from the weekend...those chips are sharp.
July 3rd, 2018 at 9:30:08 PM
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Quote: Jmarch79Yikes, that got rough. Good call taking a break.
Be careful if you have ADD and need to constantly shuffle the chips. I have cuts on my fingers from the weekend...those chips are sharp.
Amazing how 20 hands can kill the trip (so far)
July 3rd, 2018 at 9:31:28 PM
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Quote: aceofspadesAfter the last session, and still having had no dinner, I relaxed in the room and eventually made my way back down to the Ultra Lounge. I played about 4 shoes hovering around even for the buy in of 2k -- then, about ¾ of the way into the 5th shoe, I was ahead 200 for the buy-in, then proceeded to lose 6 hands, push 2 hands, then lose another 6 hands in a row
I was now only +1k for the trip so I decided to switch tables
Not a good idea -- I lost the first 5 hands at the new table then treaded water for two shoes while the dealer routinely made 20 or 21 whenever I would double down -- all the winnings from today were given back
Trip is now Even and I am done for the night (still have 630 free slot play)
An observation from many TRs of yours the past few years. You were what, 2000 up? Then, "still having had no dinner", you went and played 4 shoes and lost it all.
Not the first time you've played hungry. Seems to somewhat correlate with the game going sour. Not always, but you have RFB everywhere you play. Get some food in your stomach. Not big amounts, just something halfway healthy. Banana and some cashews. Beef jerky (saw you had some earlier).
Senior meal so they don't over-portion you and make your brain food-coma'd. Hors d'oeuvres as entree. Something.
I think you'll have better games. Being hungry puts a person on edge.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
July 3rd, 2018 at 10:06:49 PM
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Don't forget to stay hydrated as well.
July 4th, 2018 at 12:44:46 AM
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Please don't make me post the Billy Madison what you just said... Video. Unless you believe he's doing dumb things regarding strategy and or making mistakes due to his lack of sustenance.Quote: beachbumbabsAn observation from many TRs of yours the past few years. You were what, 2000 up? Then, "still having had no dinner", you went and played 4 shoes and lost it all.
Not the first time you've played hungry. Seems to somewhat correlate with the game going sour. Not always, but you have RFB everywhere you play. Get some food in your stomach. Not big amounts, just something halfway healthy. Banana and some cashews. Beef jerky (saw you had some earlier).
Senior meal so they don't over-portion you and make your brain food-coma'd. Hors d'oeuvres as entree. Something.
I think you'll have better games. Being hungry puts a person on edge.
Actully, I think if anything it's just the opposite and being hungry will improve one's decision making and strategy. People probably perform mentally better when they are hungry.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 4th, 2018 at 1:50:53 AM
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No, they merely think they perform better, It is like grocery shopping while you are hungry; it makes you spend more and make poor decisions.Quote: AxelWolf... being hungry will improve one's decision making and strategy. People probably perform mentally better when they are hungry.
I'm with BBB on this. Who knows if switching tables was wise or unwise? Try a modest "sugar level" break. Try asking the tray lizard for a bottle of water or a shot of pure orange juice. Its good you had the Jerky Snack with you but a quick break for a less salty snack might help too.
Forcing yourself to pay attention to issues of blood sugar levels, general hydration, time zones and rest will at least insure that its Dame Fortune's fault and that you are not assisting her in frowning upon you rather than smiling favorably on you.
July 4th, 2018 at 2:02:53 AM
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Quote: FleaStiffNo, they merely think they perform better, It is like grocery shopping while you are hungry; it makes you spend more and make poor decisions.
I'm with BBB on this. Who knows if switching tables was wise or unwise? Try a modest "sugar level" break. Try asking the tray lizard for a bottle of water or a shot of pure orange juice. Its good you had the Jerky Snack with you but a quick break for a less salty snack might help too.
Forcing yourself to pay attention to issues of blood sugar levels, general hydration, time zones and rest will at least insure that its Dame Fortune's fault and that you are not assisting her in frowning upon you rather than smiling favorably on you.
I just found this. I have no idea if there's any merit to it I didn't take the time to delve into it but it looks interesting. http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0111081. Its amazing but silly someone actully thought of this in the first place.
Switching tables = pointless. Had he stayed at the same table he could have lost 30 in a row so we have no idea if it was a good or bad idea. There's probably value in switching tables (assuming he is playing -EV) since that's a few less hands he will have played in total.
Again, unless his hunger is causing him to not play optimally and he knows how then it has nothing to do with his results.
Big thumbs down to Roger for giving a thank you/like BBB's post. I can only hope it was sarcasm.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 4th, 2018 at 2:30:28 AM
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Please give a short summary when providing such links so we know what we are going to and don't get frustrated by the inevitable 'page not found'.Quote: AxelWolfI just found this. I have no idea if there's any merit to it I didn't take the time to delve into it but it looks interesting. http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0111081. Its amazing but silly someone actully thought of this in the first place.
>>>>unless his hunger is causing him to not play optimally
The effects are subtle. That is why soldiers are advised to drink water before they feel thirsty.
July 4th, 2018 at 5:59:45 AM
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Woke up early - refreshed, showered and headed to the casino to play a portion of my free slot play -- I had eyeballed a 3-D Wheel of Fortune Machine last night and today, I decided to play it
It was a $1 machine with max credits being $5 -- I transferred $100 of free play onto the machine and set to work. On the first spin I won $4 - the next couple yielded nothing - but, about halfway through, I won 15 free games and a chance to "solve the puzzle" -- between the free spins and solving the puzzle I made $152 (the answer to the puzzle was "Sounds Yummy" -- by the end of the $100 in free play I had won:
I next headed towards the UltraLounge when I heard my name being called - a pit boss remembered me from the Revel days and she hugged me hello and told me all about her new puppy (Saint Bernard/Rottweiller mix). At the same time, another pit boss from the Revel days came over and hugged me too - she told me Resorts just threw a big party for their 40th (she opened Day 1 as a dealer at Resorts) and she also told me all about her new Great Dane.
I walked into the Ultra Lounge and was greeted by two dealers and a pit bioss who all also remembered me from Revel. I sat down at table 1 and bought in - an older gentleman asked if he could join me - naturally, I offered him a seat. We both were on a downward spiral - the other gentleman started doing my favorite - switching from one hand to two hands then back again. I did get a blackjack on the first hand of his doing that though -- but, he quickly saw his chip stack diminish and he was out. Upon his leaving, the cards decided to go my way, I went from being -700 to +500 by the end of the shoe, and that is where I now stand with blackjack for the trip.
Trip as a whole: +678
It was a $1 machine with max credits being $5 -- I transferred $100 of free play onto the machine and set to work. On the first spin I won $4 - the next couple yielded nothing - but, about halfway through, I won 15 free games and a chance to "solve the puzzle" -- between the free spins and solving the puzzle I made $152 (the answer to the puzzle was "Sounds Yummy" -- by the end of the $100 in free play I had won:
I next headed towards the UltraLounge when I heard my name being called - a pit boss remembered me from the Revel days and she hugged me hello and told me all about her new puppy (Saint Bernard/Rottweiller mix). At the same time, another pit boss from the Revel days came over and hugged me too - she told me Resorts just threw a big party for their 40th (she opened Day 1 as a dealer at Resorts) and she also told me all about her new Great Dane.
I walked into the Ultra Lounge and was greeted by two dealers and a pit bioss who all also remembered me from Revel. I sat down at table 1 and bought in - an older gentleman asked if he could join me - naturally, I offered him a seat. We both were on a downward spiral - the other gentleman started doing my favorite - switching from one hand to two hands then back again. I did get a blackjack on the first hand of his doing that though -- but, he quickly saw his chip stack diminish and he was out. Upon his leaving, the cards decided to go my way, I went from being -700 to +500 by the end of the shoe, and that is where I now stand with blackjack for the trip.
Trip as a whole: +678
July 4th, 2018 at 8:40:50 AM
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I took a walk over to the Hard Rock to check it out - braving the heat, I made my way down the boardwalk from Ocean to HR -- it is amazing what a $500 million renovation can do to a place -- not even recognizable as having once been the Taj Mahal:
As my parents are heading to the new Hard Rock Hotel/Casino next week, they asked me to head over there and get the lay of the land -- being a dutiful son, I called my dad while walking through the new Hard Rock Hotel/Casino - I was telling him what memorabilia they had and then, sarcastically, as my mother abhors Tom Jones (for some unknown reason), he says "I hope they have plenty of Tom Jones memorabilia" - at that moment, I looked down and there it was, an autographed postcard of Tom Jones *SPOOKY*
As my parents are heading to the new Hard Rock Hotel/Casino next week, they asked me to head over there and get the lay of the land -- being a dutiful son, I called my dad while walking through the new Hard Rock Hotel/Casino - I was telling him what memorabilia they had and then, sarcastically, as my mother abhors Tom Jones (for some unknown reason), he says "I hope they have plenty of Tom Jones memorabilia" - at that moment, I looked down and there it was, an autographed postcard of Tom Jones *SPOOKY*
July 4th, 2018 at 10:14:08 AM
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Headed to play $90 more of my free slot play - made my way to a $1 Top Dollar machine - played 3 credits per spin - on the third spin I hit a Top Dollar and was made 4 offers: the first was $20 and I declined, the second was $30 and I declined, the third was $20 and I declined and, finally, I would be stuck with whatever the final offer was, which turned out to be $30 --- I then hit a few lines for some wins and ended the session:
I then headed to the Ultra Lounge where I ran into another former Revel employee who remembered me - it's like a high school reunion -- I sat down as a table had jsut opened with a friendly dealer and I started off the shoe with four double downs in a row - only winning one of them -- however, a few hands later I was dealt three blackjacks in a row - only two of which cashed for me as the dealer was showing a Queen on one of her own. I was able to press my bet and get a nice run, leaving me with a gain of 1100 for the session
Trip is now (including slot winnings) +1921
On my way back to the room, I took a photo of the player's club line:
I then headed to the Ultra Lounge where I ran into another former Revel employee who remembered me - it's like a high school reunion -- I sat down as a table had jsut opened with a friendly dealer and I started off the shoe with four double downs in a row - only winning one of them -- however, a few hands later I was dealt three blackjacks in a row - only two of which cashed for me as the dealer was showing a Queen on one of her own. I was able to press my bet and get a nice run, leaving me with a gain of 1100 for the session
Trip is now (including slot winnings) +1921
On my way back to the room, I took a photo of the player's club line:
July 4th, 2018 at 10:28:12 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfI just found this. I have no idea if there's any merit to it I didn't take the time to delve into it but it looks interesting. http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0111081. Its amazing but silly someone actully thought of this in the first place.
Switching tables = pointless. Had he stayed at the same table he could have lost 30 in a row so we have no idea if it was a good or bad idea. There's probably value in switching tables (assuming he is playing -EV) since that's a few less hands he will have played in total.
Again, unless his hunger is causing him to not play optimally and he knows how then it has nothing to do with his results.
Big thumbs down to Roger for giving a thank you/like BBB's post. I can only hope it was sarcasm.
Even though I'm gonna take full credit for inventing the sarcastic "thank you" on these forums that thank you was indeed genuine. Babs has one good post out of a hundred ;)
Besides, from what I remember, ace is a pretty big guy and lifts. He should probably be enjoying regular meals imo
PS why hasnt someone recruited ace as a BP yet?
100% risk of ruin
July 4th, 2018 at 11:08:20 AM
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Quote: FleaStiffPlease give a short summary when providing such links so we know what we are going to and don't get frustrated by the inevitable 'page not found'.
>>>>unless his hunger is causing him to not play optimally
The effects are subtle. That is why soldiers are advised to drink water before they feel thirsty.
Three experimental studies examined the counterintuitive hypothesis that hunger improves strategic decision making, arguing that people in a hot state are better able to make favorable decisions involving uncertain outcomes. Studies 1 and 2 demonstrated that participants with more hunger or greater appetite made more advantageous choices in the Iowa Gambling Task compared to sated participants or participants with a smaller appetite. Study 3 revealed that hungry participants were better able to appreciate future big rewards in a delay discounting task; and that, in spite of their perception of increased rewarding value of both food and monetary objects, hungry participants were not more inclined to take risks to get the object of their desire. Together, these studies for the first time provide evidence that hot states improve decision making under uncertain conditions, challenging the conventional conception of the detrimental role of impulsivity in decision making.
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0111081
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 4th, 2018 at 11:15:54 AM
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Of course he should eat, but that has nothing to do with his Black Jack outcomes. If BBB wants to mother him, that's wonderful, but there's no need to associate it with losing.Quote: RogerKintEven though I'm gonna take full credit for inventing the sarcastic "thank you" on these forums that thank you was indeed genuine. Babs has one good post out of a hundred ;)
Besides, from what I remember, ace is a pretty big guy and lifts. He should probably be enjoying regular meals imo
PS why hasnt someone recruited ace as a BP yet?
If AOS suddenly comes up with a big winner after eating, I will call BS.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 4th, 2018 at 12:15:28 PM
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Ventured to play some more of my free slot play - this time putting in $65 at a different Top Dollar machine - no bonuses this time but still a respectable $44
I then hit the blackjack tables again -- lost the first 4 out of 5 hands then finally dealt a natural - however, the dealer had an Ace showing so, seeing as how I was losing chips since the beginning of the shoe, I decided to take even money just to holster an extra chip -- the extra chip came in handy on the next hand as I doubled a 55 versus a dealer 9 -- and was dealt a King - the dealer turned over a Jack
By the end of the shoe I had gained another 600
Trip (including slots) is +2521
I decided I needed something to eat after playing and had two BBQ chicken breasts at the Ocean Premiere Lounge
I then hit the blackjack tables again -- lost the first 4 out of 5 hands then finally dealt a natural - however, the dealer had an Ace showing so, seeing as how I was losing chips since the beginning of the shoe, I decided to take even money just to holster an extra chip -- the extra chip came in handy on the next hand as I doubled a 55 versus a dealer 9 -- and was dealt a King - the dealer turned over a Jack
By the end of the shoe I had gained another 600
Trip (including slots) is +2521
I decided I needed something to eat after playing and had two BBQ chicken breasts at the Ocean Premiere Lounge
July 4th, 2018 at 12:28:45 PM
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Why would you play at another table without charting the dealer ?
July 4th, 2018 at 1:44:50 PM
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Went down to play some more free slot play -- sat at another Top Dollar machine for 20 spins and picked up $66
I then went to play some blackjack and won 500 in 10 hands and left the table
Trip is +3100
I then went to play some blackjack and won 500 in 10 hands and left the table
Trip is +3100
July 4th, 2018 at 1:47:32 PM
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I see a future Top Dollar addict.😀
On a serious note, thanks, I missed these reports.
On a serious note, thanks, I missed these reports.
July 4th, 2018 at 2:00:17 PM
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I am enjoying your trip report AoS. I notice in many of the pictures that there aren't any people in the background. Are you there extra early?
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
July 4th, 2018 at 2:23:56 PM
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Quote: AyecarumbaI am enjoying your trip report AoS. I notice in many of the pictures that there aren't any people in the background. Are you there extra early?
Oh, when I take photos, I try to take them without many people in the frame
Should I take more photos with people in them?
July 4th, 2018 at 2:48:50 PM
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Go home Ace, quit while you're up.
Rob me of the schaden I have coming
if you stay..
Rob me of the schaden I have coming
if you stay..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 4th, 2018 at 3:53:08 PM
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Quote: EvenBobGo home Ace, quit while you're up.
Rob me of the schaden I have coming
if you stay..
You are exactly right EB
Going to play out the rest of my free slot play and end my trip in the morning rather than staying until friday
A win is a win
July 4th, 2018 at 3:57:43 PM
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NO! It is more courteous to not feature people much less in a manner that shows their faces. The people like it better that way and so does casino security. Security will even let you hold up foot traffic momentarily if you are trying to photograph something on the wall or the like. They prefer that to your capturing passersby in your photos.Quote: aceofspadesShould I take more photos with people in them?
Somewhere a 'wife' or 'niece' might appreciate it also.
July 4th, 2018 at 3:59:38 PM
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If only that was true. The tables are Peisinoe, Aglaope, and Thelxiepeia.
July 4th, 2018 at 6:40:13 PM
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Went down to play some more free slot play -- sat at another Top Dollar machine for 20 spins and picked up $66
I then went to play some blackjack and won 500 in 10 hands and left the table
Switched back to free slot play on the 3-D Wheel of Fortune, picked up another 41
Trip is +3141
OK finished off my free slot play on a 3-D Wheel of Fortune machine - didn't make much but, overall, for the free slot play of 630, I made back 639 (that's a pretty good percentage - or so I believe
As such, the total for the trip, and I am heading home tomorrow, is +3339
Thanks for coming along for the ride.
I then went to play some blackjack and won 500 in 10 hands and left the table
Switched back to free slot play on the 3-D Wheel of Fortune, picked up another 41
Trip is +3141
OK finished off my free slot play on a 3-D Wheel of Fortune machine - didn't make much but, overall, for the free slot play of 630, I made back 639 (that's a pretty good percentage - or so I believe
As such, the total for the trip, and I am heading home tomorrow, is +3339
Thanks for coming along for the ride.
July 4th, 2018 at 7:26:24 PM
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Quote: aceofspades
As such, the total for the trip, and I am heading home tomorrow, is +3339
Changed my mind, hit the tables Ace.
Double your money and then head
home. I sense a winning streak..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 4th, 2018 at 7:27:38 PM
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Quote: EvenBobChanged my mind, hit the tables Ace.
Double your money and then head
home. I sense a winning streak..
Martingale style...?
July 4th, 2018 at 7:52:12 PM
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Nice trip. Always nice to come out ahead of them. Your trip seemed so much more relaxing than mine was. Hoping to head down there solo this weekend.
Just a question, I've noticed by reading some of your older trip reports as well that your play style is very 'hit and run'. Do your hosts ever say anything about that? There is nothing wrong with it, in fact small winning sessions are the way to play if you want to win, but I could see a host saying, "we need longer play out of you, just not 10 hands here (2 minutes), 50 here, etc."
Just a question, I've noticed by reading some of your older trip reports as well that your play style is very 'hit and run'. Do your hosts ever say anything about that? There is nothing wrong with it, in fact small winning sessions are the way to play if you want to win, but I could see a host saying, "we need longer play out of you, just not 10 hands here (2 minutes), 50 here, etc."
July 4th, 2018 at 9:45:55 PM
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Quote: aceofspadesMartingale style...?
That's the ticket, double your bet
every time you lose. A sure winner..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 5th, 2018 at 6:41:15 AM
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Junior hosts at cet properties might say such a thing, but just too many people are "social" gamblers, meaning that they have lives outside the tables. They have wives and meet other couples that they know, go to sporting events or concerts and dinners and shows or something. Hosts look at money put at risk and only the cheaper places look slavishly to the clock as well.Quote: Jmarch79Just a question, I've noticed by reading some of your older trip reports as well that your play style is very 'hit and run'. Do your hosts ever say anything about that?
July 5th, 2018 at 8:04:59 AM
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Quote: Jmarch79Nice trip. Always nice to come out ahead of them. Your trip seemed so much more relaxing than mine was. Hoping to head down there solo this weekend.
Just a question, I've noticed by reading some of your older trip reports as well that your play style is very 'hit and run'. Do your hosts ever say anything about that? There is nothing wrong with it, in fact small winning sessions are the way to play if you want to win, but I could see a host saying, "we need longer play out of you, just not 10 hands here (2 minutes), 50 here, etc."
AoS can answer for himself, but my hosts look at the total time playing per day as a factor. I've heard 3-4 hours a day as a threshhold goal in calculating future offers. But every property/chain has a different formula. And that's only 1 factor.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
