A homeless (casino) story
My ex-fiance, amazonian nubian and former gang member and boxer was letting me crash at her place
I had been given a free buffet by the casino on a steamed shrimp day. My mistake I told my fiance.
"Get me a plate of shrimp"
"Now" I replied "you know they dont allow food to leave the buffet"
"And you know im letting you sleep in my house and if you wanna keep sleeping and not get your head busted you better come home with a bag full of shrimp"
As I said she is a former gang member and boxer she punches - hard!
The plate in front of me was filled to the brim with shrimp. The waitress remarked "wow you must love shrimp"
I shook my head with gusto
Through the next 15 minutes stuffed my bag full of shrimp
Waitress came back and saw empty plate
"Wow, you really was hungry! You ate all them shrimps that fast?"
I sheepishly nodded yes. "I was very hungry" I added confidently
"I see. You even ate the shells!"
her, that's kinda sorta my warning
sign to get the hell out. I dated a
girl who found a wallet on her seat
at the movie we were seeing. She
took out the money ($130) and threw
the wallet under the seat in front of
her. That was our last date..
Quote: EvenBobWhen a woman asks me to steal for
her, that's kinda sorta my warning
sign to get the hell out. I dated a
girl who found a wallet on her seat
at the movie we were seeing. She
took out the money ($130) and threw
the wallet under the seat in front of
her. That was our last date..
Note it was my ex-fiance at that time
Hopefully, she was at least good looking. I’ve known a few good looking delinquents.
I enjoyed your story.
Quote: EvenBobI dated a
girl who found a wallet on her seat
at the movie we were seeing. She
took out the money ($130) and threw
the wallet under the seat in front of
her. That was our last date..
I hope you did this to her.
Direct: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vujNcE_43Qg
It was probably your last date with her regardless. (-;Quote: EvenBobWhen a woman asks me to steal for
her, that's kinda sorta my warning
sign to get the hell out. I dated a
girl who found a wallet on her seat
at the movie we were seeing. She
took out the money ($130) and threw
the wallet under the seat in front of
her. That was our last date..
I think you might need your own little Nathans's corner as well. (-;Quote: darkozIt was my very early days as an AP before I had even heard of that term when i was still rather homeless
My ex-fiance, amazonian nubian and former gang member and boxer was letting me crash at her place
I had been given a free buffet by the casino on a steamed shrimp day. My mistake I told my fiance.
"Get me a plate of shrimp"
"Now" I replied "you know they dont allow food to leave the buffet"
"And you know im letting you sleep in my house and if you wanna keep sleeping and not get your head busted you better come home with a bag full of shrimp"
As I said she is a former gang member and boxer she punches - hard!
The plate in front of me was filled to the brim with shrimp. The waitress remarked "wow you must love shrimp"
I shook my head with gusto
Through the next 15 minutes stuffed my bag full of shrimp
Waitress came back and saw empty plate
"Wow, you really was hungry! You ate all them shrimps that fast?"
I sheepishly nodded yes. "I was very hungry" I added confidently
"I see. You even ate the shells!"
"I see. You even ate the shells!" LOL
Quote: AxelWolfIt was probably your last date with her regardless. (-;
We'll never know. But if a woman steals
like that, she'll steal from you when she
gets the chance. I cound't believe she
did it right in front of me and laughed
about it later.
Quote: WizardI hope you did this to her.
ya know, Michael, I wonder about you sometimes.
I found a hundred dollar bill on the sidewalk in front of a casino and also pocketed it: no worries.
Finders keepers, losers weepers.
I think there's a big difference between finding something that most likely will not get back to the rightful owner vs taking money from someone's lost wallet.Quote: MrVI found a black chip on the casino floor, put it in my pocket and had no qualms whatsoever.
I found a hundred dollar bill on the sidewalk in front of a casino and also pocketed it: no worries.
Finders keepers, losers weepers.
Quote: AxelWolfI think there's a big difference between finding something that most likely will not get back to the rightful owner vs taking money from someone's lost wallet.
I was planning to write something very similar but you beat me to the punch. ;)
Quote: EvenBobWhen a woman asks me to steal for
her, that's kinda sorta my warning
sign to get the hell out. I dated a
girl who found a wallet on her seat
at the movie we were seeing. She
took out the money ($130) and threw
the wallet under the seat in front of
her. That was our last date..
What I find even more troubling is that it didn't seem like she NEEDED the money since she was LAUGHING about the $130 as you mentioned in a later post. Had she NEEDED the money she would have been grateful, not laughing. For example,if she needed to pay her cellphone and needed to eat and was a week away from payday and found the $130, and was now able to eat and get her phone paid,that's reasonable. But she seemed like she took that money because she WANTED it which seems scummy.
+1Quote: AxelWolfI think there's a big difference between finding something that most likely will not get back to the rightful owner vs taking money from someone's lost wallet.
Quote: AxelWolfI think there's a big difference between finding something that most likely will not get back to the rightful owner vs taking money from someone's lost wallet.
I also think there is something different between taking $130 out of someones wallet (which can be rightfully returned to the owner assuming there is some identification inside)
And taking some shrimp which you actually paid for anf which is going in the garbage once its on your plate out of a buffet
Its interesting EB equates taking food on your plate out of a buffet as stealing
I would equate it more as an advantage play - against house rules but not criminal in any way. I doubt anyone can be arrested for smuggling food out of a buffet they paid entry into
This pretty much shows where EB head is
P.S. gets my hijacked thread back on topic too
I hate to admit it, but I agree with EB here. What you described is stealing. At a buffet, you are paying only for food that you eat at that one sitting, not for food you take with you. I have been to several buffets that have signage that express this explicitly. Taking something that you did not pay for from a business is the definition of shoplifting, which is stealing.Quote: darkozIts interesting EB equates taking food on your plate out of a buffet as stealing
I would equate it more as an advantage play - against house rules but not criminal in any way. I doubt anyone can be arrested for smuggling food out of a buffet they paid entry into
I don't doubt that it goes on all the time, and that most places don't care if you put a corn muffin in your purse. But I would bet that if you brought a cooler to a seafood buffet, stuffed 60 lbs of crab legs into it and left, you'd be arrested if caught.
Quote: NathanWhat I find even more troubling is that it didn't seem like she NEEDED the money since she was LAUGHING about the $130 as you mentioned in a later post. Had she NEEDED the money she would have been grateful, not laughing. For example,if she needed to pay her cellphone and needed to eat and was a week away from payday and found the $130, and was now able to eat and get her phone paid,that's reasonable. But she seemed like she took that money because she WANTED it which seems scummy.
Slippery slope when you justify stealing because you think you NEED it.
Integrity is a simple binary thing. Either you have it or you don't.
Quote: JoemanI hate to admit it, but I agree with EB here. What you described is stealing. At a buffet, you are paying only for food that you eat at that one sitting, not for food you take with you. I have been to several buffets that have signage that express this explicitly. Taking something that you did not pay for from a business is the definition of shoplifting, which is stealing.
I don't doubt that it goes on all the time, and that most places don't care if you put a corn muffin in your purse. But I would bet that if you brought a cooler to a seafood buffet, stuffed 60 lbs of crab legs into it and left, you'd be arrested if caught.
I get what you are saying but disagree with part of your analysis
You dont pay for "the food you EAT at that one sitting"
You pay for what you take on your plate
If i take a pound of shrimp onto my plate it is paid for from that point on... it has only 2 destinations... my stomach or the garbage
Taking it with me so it eventually winds up in the same place(my stomach or the garbage) is not stealing to me (throwing it in the garbage is more a crime imo) (not a legal crime but in the moral sense)
yep I just made that up. I need to cut down on my posts or I am going to catch Pacomartin
Quote: odiousgambitOne buffet is so sweaty about taking food out they stopped me because I was walking out and still had a mouthful of food I was chewing on
yep I just made that up. I need to cut down on my posts or I am going to catch Pacomartin
Seriously?
I would have spit it out on their floor or in their face if they wanted it not to leave the premises so bad
Like I said, I have been to buffets that have posted signs stating that is exactly what you are paying for. Granted, businesses can post any of their policies on the wall. That doesn't necessarily mean they are legally enforceable.Quote: darkozYou dont pay for "the food you EAT at that one sitting"
IANAL, but I would think taking food home from a buffet is technically illegal. But, unless the offense was egregious (~$100+ worth of food), I doubt the restaurant would do anything more than ban you for doing this, if they cared about it at all. It wouldn't be worth the hassle.
Fiancee: a female who is engaged to be married.
the above are the rules of grammar and should be obeyed even if you choose to not obey the rules relating to sneaking food out of the buffet area.
The lost wallet incident is outright theft.
All these things do reveal character but very few people 'walk on water'. A muffin stuck in a handbag is one thing but an entire plate of shrimp is more serious. Remember... you are stealing from the Employees Dining Room when you do that. I once had a dealer tell me 'he was thinking seven eleven markets were starting to look attractive and that the casinos free scrambled eggs and sausage for eployees was getting tiresome after five years. Dealers can have a hard life; don't steal from them.
Quote: JoemanLike I said, I have been to buffets that have posted signs stating that is exactly what you are paying for. Granted, businesses can post any of their policies on the wall. That doesn't necessarily mean they are legally enforceable.
IANAL, but I would think taking food home from a buffet is technically illegal. But, unless the offense was egregious (~$100+ worth of food), I doubt the restaurant would do anything more than ban you for doing this, if they cared about it at all. It wouldn't be worth the hassle.
So if im bulimic and vomit up all the food can i demand a refund?
*joke*
Quote: darkozI also think there is something different between taking $130 out of someones wallet (which can be rightfully returned to the owner assuming there is some identification inside)
And taking some shrimp which you actually paid for anf which is going in the garbage once its on your plate out of a buffet
Its interesting EB equates taking food on your plate out of a buffet as stealing
I would equate it more as an advantage play - against house rules but not criminal in any way. I doubt anyone can be arrested for smuggling food out of a buffet they paid entry into
This pretty much shows where EB head is
P.S. gets my hijacked thread back on topic too
And where your head is, as well. Stealing is an advantage play. How many times did you fill up your plate and save all that food from being wasted by stealing it?
Quote: standbymymanAnd where your head is, as well. Stealing is an advantage play. How many times did you fill up your plate and save all that food from being wasted by stealing it?
About as many times as i smuggled food INTO a movie theater so i could consume it without giving the money to the theater
if you can't read the fine print hit 'quote'Quote: darkozSeriously?
Quote: odiousgambitif you can't read the fine print hit 'quote'
???
Quote: FleaStiffFiance: a male who is engaged to be married.
Fiancee: a female who is engaged to be married.
the above are the rules of grammar and should be obeyed even if you choose to not obey the rules relating to sneaking food out of the buffet area.
The lost wallet incident is outright theft.
All these things do reveal character but very few people 'walk on water'. A muffin stuck in a handbag is one thing but an entire plate of shrimp is more serious. Remember... you are stealing from the Employees Dining Room when you do that. I once had a dealer tell me 'he was thinking seven eleven markets were starting to look attractive and that the casinos free scrambled eggs and sausage for eployees was getting tiresome after five years. Dealers can have a hard life; don't steal from them.
Fiance vs fiancee - I never knew that. Thanks
Are the casino employees getting the uneaten shrimp from the buffet served later in their dining area?
A bit speechless about that one
One day while walking up the courthouse steps I saw a key ring full of keys detach from the armored guard attendant in front of me; they fell onto the steps and the guy didn't know it, he just kept walking.
I picked them up.
At that instant I had to make a decision.
I immediately told him what happened and returned them.
Obviously that was the right choice; no way I could have used them to further a crime (or could I?).
But how about this: most nights I walk the 'hood for a midnight constitutional.
I sometimes fantacize about spotting a bag full of money, or a box, whatever, cast on the side of the road.
What if you actually stumbled across such a thing, say an unmarked bag with a hundred grand or more it, what would you do?
What if instead of being unmarked it had markings of ownership: same answer?
Ah, the subtle shades of morality,
Quote: MrVWhen opportunity knocks, be ready to respond.
One day while walking up the courthouse steps I saw a key ring full of keys detach from the armored guard attendant in front of me; they fell onto the steps and the guy didn't know it, he just kept walking.
I picked them up.
At that instant I had to make a decision.
I immediately told him what happened and returned them.
Obviously that was the right choice; no way I could have used them to further a crime (or could I?).
But how about this: most nights I walk the 'hood for a midnight constitutional.
I sometimes fantacize about spotting a bag full of money, or a box, whatever, cast on the side of the road.
What if you actually stumbled across such a thing, say an unmarked bag with a hundred grand or more it, what would you do?
What if instead of being unmarked it had markings of ownership: same answer?
Ah, the subtle shades of morality,
Just as the law draws a divide between seriousness of crimes so do I
Taking food from a buffet i paid to enter. No problem
Taking a bag of money from an armored truck because the guard dropped his keys. Hell no
Finding money on the floor with no identification - large sum (over a grand) I turn it in. Less than a grand I probably pocket it
With owners identification I try to always return it. You never know when you lose money and would want the same
Quote: MrVWhen opportunity knocks, be ready to respond.
One day while walking up the courthouse steps I saw a key ring full of keys detach from the armored guard attendant in front of me; they fell onto the steps and the guy didn't know it, he just kept walking.
I picked them up.
At that instant I had to make a decision.
I immediately told him what happened and returned them.
Obviously that was the right choice; no way I could have used them to further a crime (or could I?).
But how about this: most nights I walk the 'hood for a midnight constitutional.
I sometimes fantacize about spotting a bag full of money, or a box, whatever, cast on the side of the road.
What if you actually stumbled across such a thing, say an unmarked bag with a hundred grand or more it, what would you do?
What if instead of being unmarked it had markings of ownership: same answer?
Ah, the subtle shades of morality,
Sort of a hijack, but I think related enough to further the conversation. (Darkoz may disagree).
If I found it unmarked, I would put a vague ad on Craigslist. Found. Valuable. Area of town. Write (email box created for this ) with thorough description to reclaim. Just in case it was a drug dealer stash tossed to hide it or something.
If no answer in 30 days, I would keep it, perhaps donate some/all to a food bank or Salvation Army, perhaps just enjoy it. If it's like, a huge brick of sequential hundreds, I would probably assume it's stolen and inquire to police, even if it seemed likely they would take it.
If identifiable, I would try to track the person down, but perhaps still shield myself depending on exactly what it is (wallet with ID vs. sketchy looking stash or bag of sliver or something .)
Inside a casino, going back a post, when I find cash or chips or keys on the floor, I turn them in to security. Or point them out to the person sitting obliviously over them. Or whatever. Just how it works for me.
I do expect the person would cut me out a thank-you reward. It's happened several times. Maybe I shouldn't.
And I've lost my wallet about 3 times, I think, and always given one to the finder. Luckily, I've never actually had one stolen, and those lost have been returned intact.
Quote: beachbumbabsSort of a hijack, but I think related enough to further the conversation. (Darkoz may disagree).
If I found it unmarked, I would put a vague ad on Craigslist. Found. Valuable. Area of town. Write (email box created for this ) with thorough description to reclaim. Just in case it was a drug dealer stash tossed to hide it or something.
If no answer in 30 days, I would keep it, perhaps donate some/all to a food bank or Salvation Army, perhaps just enjoy it. If it's like, a huge brick of sequential hundreds, I would probably assume it's stolen and inquire to police, even if it seemed likely they would take it.
If identifiable, I would try to track the person down, but perhaps still shield myself depending on exactly what it is (wallet with ID vs. sketchy looking stash or bag of sliver or something .)
Inside a casino, going back a post, when I find cash or chips or keys on the floor, I turn them in to security. Or point them out to the person sitting obliviously over them. Or whatever. Just how it works for me.
I do expect the person would cut me out a thank-you reward. It's happened several times. Maybe I shouldn't.
And I've lost my wallet about 3 times, I think, and always given one to the finder. Luckily, I've never actually had one stolen, and those lost have been returned intact.
We all commit crimes
Hijacking for example is a crime
Babs youve been caught hijacking
*jk*
If you help yourself to some macaroni and cheese at the buffet serving area but leave it on your plate, it gets slopped to the pigs. Literally. It winds up being sold to pig farmers. The old Circus Circus did this back in the late sixties as a way to keep their 'world's longest buffet" profitable.Quote: darkozAre the casino employees getting the uneaten shrimp from the buffet served later in their dining area?
A bit speechless about that one
If however, the tray of macaroni and cheese sits on the steam table too long, it then gets sent to EDR
A few notable incidents of severe GI tract disturbances have indeed taken place. One holiday eve, a poker dealer told the floor "take over my game IMMEDIATELY" and barely made it to the mens room. As he sat there he heard two other dealers having severe problems and he dialed the casino's shift boss '' shut down the EDR immediately. Food Poisoning". Probably save the casino some very bad publicity as well as quite a bit of money if all those dealers had walked away from their posts. (No, the casino did not give the caller a bonus).
Quote: darkozIts interesting EB equates taking food on your plate out of a buffet as stealing
That's because the restaurant views
it as stealing. I had a friend who managed
a local buffet and if you stole food, you
were banned for life. It's not a prank
or harmless to them, it effects their
profits just as all stealing does.
In Lancaster, many of the Amish and Mennonite buffets warn that removing food will result in a trip to the local hoosgow.
Quote: billryanI walked out of the Resorts buffet with a roll in my hand and two attendants pinned me up against a wall, threatening to ban me for life.
In Lancaster, many of the Amish and Mennonite buffets warn that removing food will result in a trip to the local hoosgow.
Oh my God! O.O They acted like you stole a TITO out of a machine! O.O. It was just an egg roll! Not that serious! Actually, not serious at all! O.O
Quote: billryan
In Lancaster, many of the Amish and Mennonite buffets warn that removing food will result in a trip to the local hoosgow.
Buffets work on a hairline profit,
like any restaurant. They also get
down on people who fill a plate,
eat 10% and fill another plate. They
tell you it's 'Eat all you want, not
take all you want'.
I went to a buffet for years with my
wife because she worked late. I bet
we went 300 times. It was fun
watching the managers explain to
certain minorities that they were
getting banned for life because
it's all you care to eat, not all you
can stuff in your purse. Or all your
kids can waste in 30 min.
Quote: EvenBobBuffets work on a hairline profit,
like any restaurant. They also get
down on people who fill a plate,
eat 10% and fill another plate. They
tell you it's 'Eat all you want, not
take all you want'.
I went to a buffet for years with my
wife because she worked late. I bet
we went 300 times. It was fun
watching the managers explain to
certain minorities that they were
getting banned for life because
it's all you care to eat, not all you
can stuff in your purse. Or all your
kids can waste in 30 min.
Really EB?
I take offense at your racist comment
Or are you saying the buffet singled out minorities for banning but let white folk get away with it?
Or as it appears that only "certain minorities" take food from the buffet
Quote: EvenBobThat's because the restaurant views
it as stealing. I had a friend who managed
a local buffet and if you stole food, you
were banned for life. It's not a prank
or harmless to them, it effects their
profits just as all stealing does.
I dont care what restaurants view it as
Casinos view edge sorting and hoke carding and using other players cards with permission as stealing
Some view card counting as stealing
All wrong of course
If you are comfortable with that level of stealing, that's fine.
I often take a piece of fruit or something without inquiring about if it's allowed.
Until i learned otherwise here, I assumed money dropped in a casino was finders keepers. I've certainly dropped more than i found (though never thousands) never thinking to ask security if anyone turned it in, and never thinking that whoever found it did anything wrong.
I jaywalk - looks more suspicious if you dont in nyc
I have paid for sex - from both hookers and girlfriends. Usually the girlfriends are more expensive
Food from a buffet? Casual stuff like putting an extra biscuit in your purse to munch on later is fine, IMO. My wife is a tiny person who eats very little food in a single seating -when she eats in a restaurant she always asks for a "doggie bag" to take home the rest of her meal.* But when she eats in a buffet - heck, she is charged the same as some 400 lb slob who literally eats 5-10 times as much she eats. If she enjoyed some food item and puts some in her purse for later, who cares.
* And sometimes she walks out of an expensive restaurant with 2/3 of her filet mignon, baked potato and desert in a doggie bag and sees a homeless person and walks over to them and gives them the doggie bag. It really annoys me -because I wanted her to enjoy that amazing meal. She is a better person than I am.
Quote: billryanI walked out of the Resorts buffet with a roll in my hand and two attendants pinned me up against a wall, threatening to ban me for life.
In Lancaster, many of the Amish and Mennonite buffets warn that removing food will result in a trip to the local hoosgow.
Is that worse than being shunned?
Quote: billryanI walked out of the Resorts buffet with a roll in my hand and two attendants pinned me up against a wall, threatening to ban me for life.
In Lancaster, many of the Amish and Mennonite buffets warn that removing food will result in a trip to the local hoosgow.
You're lucky that you didn't have a thin slice of ribeye stuffed in that sucker. They might have tazed you.
Quote: darkozOr are you saying the buffet singled out minorities
Minorities were 70% of this buffets
business. They didn't have to single
them out, they voluntarily misbehaved
on a regular basis..
Quote: darkozI dont care what restaurants view it as
Why doesn't this surprise me..
Quote: gordonm888heck, she is charged the same as some 400 lb slob who literally eats 5-10 times as much she eats
Yup, and buffets know this and it's
figured into the math of their bottom
end. I just saw a TV segment a month
ago that the number of fatties has
increased so greatly that buffets are
cracking down on the tubs of lard
who go back for more again and again.
They showed how they ban them for
life, and give them a refund.
They screamed and yelled and were
going to sue, and the manager told
them go ahead, the restaurant would
win with the video they have.
In my buffet the manager was black,
banning mostly black people. They
still screamed discrimination, the
manager would laugh in their faces.
He was on a first name basis with us
and would say 'No charge for the floor
show'.
Quote: MaxPenYou're lucky that you didn't have a thin slice of ribeye stuffed in that sucker. They might have tazed you.
This guy stuffed a sirloin down his pants
and look what happened:
Anyone remember this bit from John Pinette?Quote: EvenBobYup, and buffets know this and it's
figured into the math of their bottom
end. I just saw a TV segment a month
ago that the number of fatties has
increased so greatly that buffets are
cracking down on the tubs of lard
who go back for more again and again.
They showed how they ban them for
life, and give them a refund.
Quote: JoemanAnyone remember this bit from John Pinette?
I remember that, hilarious. Try doing that
now in a comedy club. Even though many
Chinese sound just like that when English
is a 2nd language, you can't mimic them
because that's now 'racist'. Whatever that
means.
