Getting $5 for the 2 of clubs in pai gow poker
February 16th, 2010 at 9:22:35 PM
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At a casino near my house you get $5 for the 2 of clubs if it is in your hand win, lose, or push. There is a .50 cent collection every hand for bets between $5 and $25 but there is no commission for wins. There are also some free bonuses
AA with royal-$2500
AA with straight flush-$1000
AA with four of a kind-$500
AA with full house-$100
AA with flush-$50
AA with straight-$25
Five aces-$500
9 high pai gow-$100
I am wondering if the 2 of clubs and the bonuses make up for charging the collection and should you bet $5 or $25 dollars a hand for the best results?
AA with royal-$2500
AA with straight flush-$1000
AA with four of a kind-$500
AA with full house-$100
AA with flush-$50
AA with straight-$25
Five aces-$500
9 high pai gow-$100
I am wondering if the 2 of clubs and the bonuses make up for charging the collection and should you bet $5 or $25 dollars a hand for the best results?
February 16th, 2010 at 9:52:35 PM
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Lucky you! All the card rooms around here charge $1 collection for every 100 bet and have no bonuses, which card room are you going to?
February 17th, 2010 at 4:53:54 AM
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Wow. Those are some interesting free bonuses, but no bonus (other than the five aces) that requires the Joker?
I was once dealt: J Q K * 2 3 4
It pushed, but holy crap!
I was once dealt: J Q K * 2 3 4
It pushed, but holy crap!
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February 18th, 2010 at 6:24:45 AM
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The $5 bonus more than makes up for the $0.50 commission since the odds of getting the 2c is 7 in 53. 7/53 * 5 = $0.66 > $ 0.50
The other free bonuses are just gravy. I will calculate the EV for them in a bit, unless someone else does it first.
You should only bet $5 since the bonuses do not increase with your bet. A $5 bet will result in the highest expected return.
The other free bonuses are just gravy. I will calculate the EV for them in a bit, unless someone else does it first.
You should only bet $5 since the bonuses do not increase with your bet. A $5 bet will result in the highest expected return.
February 18th, 2010 at 6:41:19 AM
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Ok, so using the sidebet tables from the wizards pai gow poker entry, it looks like those other bonuses are worth about $0.08 per hand. Add this to the $0.16 from the $5 bonus and you get an added $0.24 per hand.
I don't know if you are banking here, I'm assuming you are not. Banking commission free has a player advantage of 1.2%, however, I don't know how that works with the $0.50 commission and whether that fee increases because you will betting a lot more to bank (to cover all bets on the table).
Anyways, a $5 bet will cost you $0.06 at a 1.2% disadvantage according to the wizard (commission free). So you are in +EV land! Play to your hearts content, at no more than $5 a hand.
At 30 hands/hour, this will net you $5.40 on average + comps.
I don't know if you are banking here, I'm assuming you are not. Banking commission free has a player advantage of 1.2%, however, I don't know how that works with the $0.50 commission and whether that fee increases because you will betting a lot more to bank (to cover all bets on the table).
Anyways, a $5 bet will cost you $0.06 at a 1.2% disadvantage according to the wizard (commission free). So you are in +EV land! Play to your hearts content, at no more than $5 a hand.
At 30 hands/hour, this will net you $5.40 on average + comps.
February 18th, 2010 at 9:12:41 AM
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Are you factoring in the fact that there is no commission for wins in this game in your 2.66% edge? Seems the only HA in this game is the $.50 collection fee and the fact that banker wins copies.
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February 18th, 2010 at 9:16:30 AM
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Quote: teddysAre you factoring in the fact that there is no commission for wins in this game in your 2.66% edge? Seems the only HA in this game is the $.50 collection fee and the fact that banker wins copies.
No I missed that! I didn't even know such a game existed! I modified my original post. From here: https://wizardofodds.com/paigowpoker, it looks like the HA is 1.2%.
