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UCivan
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April 30th, 2012 at 12:41:15 PM permalink
I am dreaming of one bj variant that offers:

- BJ pays 1 to 1,
- Split Aces only and
- DD on 10 or 11 only, plus some proprietary rules.

The house edge is now a bit high. I think the HE can afford to reduce by any of these features:

- changing "bj paying 1 to 1" to "3 to 2"
- changing "split Aces only" to "split any pair"
- changing "dd on 10 or 11" to "dd on any first 2 cards"
- offering n-card Charlie

Which feature do you think is most attractive to average players? Perhaps no changes are needed as long as the game is fun and players are willing to pay to play. Thanks.
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April 30th, 2012 at 1:01:52 PM permalink
Quote: UCivan

Which feature do you think is most attractive to average players? Perhaps no changes are needed as long as the game is fun and players are willing to pay to play. Thanks.



To ALL BJ players, whether advantage, casual or whatever, 3:2 on BJ is the MOST attractive option. People like getting something a little special for BJ. It also reduces the HE by the most by far.
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April 30th, 2012 at 1:24:43 PM permalink
Quote: Tiltpoul

People like getting something a little special for BJ.

Since I do not know how ribald I can be without getting a time-out, I will merely allude to it.
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
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April 30th, 2012 at 1:53:21 PM permalink
Quote: UCivan


The house edge is now a bit high.



"A bit high"?
It is about 3.4% (assuming H17) - like 9 times higher than normal bj.

I vote "don't change it" - if anyone is stupid enough to play this game with any one of those changes, they probably will not mind playing it the way it is either.
"When two people always agree one of them is unnecessary"
buzzpaff
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April 30th, 2012 at 1:54:12 PM permalink
" To ALL BJ players, whether advantage, casual or whatever, 3:2 on BJ is the MOST attractive option. "

Sir, I beg to differ. I believe a low minimum bet is most important. Why else would 6/5 BJ tables exist?
The rules are not liberal and it's 6/5 BJ.
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April 30th, 2012 at 2:14:54 PM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

" To ALL BJ players, whether advantage, casual or whatever, 3:2 on BJ is the MOST attractive option. "

Sir, I beg to differ. I believe a low minimum bet is most important. Why else would 6/5 BJ tables exist?
The rules are not liberal and it's 6/5 BJ.



I don't know if Buzz is being serious, but to me a low minimum bet is most important. I don't play much BJ, but if I had to play for an hour, I'd rather play a $5 table at 6/5 than $15 at 3-2.
UCivan
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April 30th, 2012 at 2:48:33 PM permalink
Quote: weaselman

"A bit high"?
It is about 3.4% (assuming H17) - like 9 times higher than normal bj.

About 3.35%, very good guess.
buzzpaff
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April 30th, 2012 at 2:50:09 PM permalink
Of course I am being serious. I defy anyone to come up with another reason to play 6/5 BJ. Other than being drunk or wanting to sit next to a hot babe.
Look at penny slots. The average bet is now 77 cents. More than enough to bet 3 quarters, but penny slots rule !

To many experts quote BJ -ev expressed in Basic Strategy and simulations of 8,000,000 hands.
Average player plays 2-3 hours and usually can not squeeze 8,000, 000 hands in that time frame.
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April 30th, 2012 at 2:51:36 PM permalink
" I am dreaming of one bj variant that offers:"

You dream is a nightmare for the player, but I suspect you already knew that >
UCivan
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April 30th, 2012 at 2:55:16 PM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

" I am dreaming of one bj variant that offers:"

You dream is a nightmare for the player, but I suspect you already knew that >


I merely used the same method you invented "Action Blackjack (Paff)".
buzzpaff
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April 30th, 2012 at 2:58:12 PM permalink
But you have not expressed how you would deal with the 2.30HE on paying even. You seem to be tightening the other rules as well.
Or does a special card combination get the player a lap dance in the party pit ?
In that case I might play .
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April 30th, 2012 at 8:07:43 PM permalink
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UCivan
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April 30th, 2012 at 8:22:24 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

I believe that the $15 3:2 is cheaper. At least thats what I would play.

Will you play SWITCH, $10 x 2 per hand, with HE = 0.58 %?
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April 30th, 2012 at 8:32:40 PM permalink
" I believe that the $15 3:2 is cheaper. At least thats what I would play. " would you play that with $40 in your pocket or even a $100 bankroll ? just asking !
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