Pai Gow Tiles Side Bets - Do any exist?
February 13th, 2011 at 6:37:00 PM
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Do any casinos offer any type of Pai Gow side bets? I was thinking about possible bets that could be offered.
Getting a pair
Getting 2 pairs
Getting a "straight" example: 2,3,4,5
Getting a "flush" all tiles of same colored dots
Dealer and player having Copy
Winning the high hand
Winning the low hand
I would also wonder the odds of these type of hands would be.
Getting a pair
Getting 2 pairs
Getting a "straight" example: 2,3,4,5
Getting a "flush" all tiles of same colored dots
Dealer and player having Copy
Winning the high hand
Winning the low hand
I would also wonder the odds of these type of hands would be.
February 13th, 2011 at 8:11:41 PM
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I have never seen a pai gow side bet, I doubt any casino would since the market for players is very specific and is 99.9% asian players that are very superstitious and very serious about this traditional classic game
February 13th, 2011 at 8:18:53 PM
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I was originally thinking that the Asian players wouldn't like it but they bet like crazy on the dragon bonus on Baccarat which is the only reason I thought they might not be opposed to a side bet.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:26:47 PM
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No side bets.
February 24th, 2011 at 7:07:29 PM
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Not true.
Crown Casino in Melboure Australia has a bonus side bet that gets paid on specific hands:
Wong - even money
Pair - 2-1
Gee Jun, Teen or Day pair - 5-1
2 pairs - 12-1
Lame Duck (high 6/low 6/any 7/any 4 set as 1-2) - 20-1
Teen and Day pairs - 40-1 I Think
Gee Jun & Day Pair - 60-1 I think
Gee Jun & Teen Pair - 200-1
Crown Casino in Melboure Australia has a bonus side bet that gets paid on specific hands:
Wong - even money
Pair - 2-1
Gee Jun, Teen or Day pair - 5-1
2 pairs - 12-1
Lame Duck (high 6/low 6/any 7/any 4 set as 1-2) - 20-1
Teen and Day pairs - 40-1 I Think
Gee Jun & Day Pair - 60-1 I think
Gee Jun & Teen Pair - 200-1
February 24th, 2011 at 7:09:40 PM
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They also have s Tie bet that gets paid even money if you get a push & 25-1 if you get a push with you low hand being a gong or higher.
February 25th, 2011 at 7:23:59 PM
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Details for the two Pai Gow side bets mentioned above can be found within the guide here:
http://www.crowncasino.com.au/Assets/Files/Crown%20Pai%20Gow.pdf
http://www.crowncasino.com.au/Assets/Files/Crown%20Pai%20Gow.pdf
February 25th, 2011 at 8:41:03 PM
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I've seen that side bet at the gaming show but never knew it made it into a casino. Here is a quick analysis.
By the way, a "lame duck" is a 2-1 hand, which must be composed of a high 6, low 6, any 7, and any 4.
Only the highest win pays.
Anyone disagree?
| Event | Pays | Combinations | Probability | Return |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Gee-Jun and Teen pair | 200 | 1 | 0.000028 | 0.005562 |
| Gee-Jun and Day pair | 60 | 1 | 0.000028 | 0.001669 |
| Heaven pair and Earth pair | 30 | 1 | 0.000028 | 0.000834 |
| Lame Duck | 20 | 64 | 0.001780 | 0.035595 |
| Two Pair | 12 | 117 | 0.003254 | 0.039043 |
| Gee-Jun, Teen or Day pair | 5 | 1260 | 0.035039 | 0.175195 |
| One Pair | 2 | 5460 | 0.151835 | 0.303671 |
| Wong | 1 | 2704 | 0.075195 | 0.075195 |
| Loser | -1 | 26352 | 0.732814 | -0.732814 |
| Total | 35960 | 1.000000 | -0.096051 |
By the way, a "lame duck" is a 2-1 hand, which must be composed of a high 6, low 6, any 7, and any 4.
Only the highest win pays.
Anyone disagree?
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
February 25th, 2011 at 8:44:53 PM
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I probably should read the website, but I am curious if it is like pai gow poker where if it is in your hand you get the bonus, or if you have to play the wong etc... to get it. I have played many times where splitting the wong was the better move, I am a bit of a sucker in the sense that I always play my highest hand no matter what the low is, for example I would rather play a 9/0 than a 5/4 (I am not sure if these are correct examples, but it is to give the general idea)
February 25th, 2011 at 9:13:14 PM
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Quote: WizardI've seen that side bet at the gaming show but never knew it made it into a casino. Here is a quick analysis.
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Anyone disagree?
I agree with your figures exactly.
Quote: NicksGamingStuffI probably should read the website, but I am curious if it is like pai gow poker where if it is in your hand you get the bonus, or if you have to play the wong etc... to get it. I have played many times where splitting the wong was the better move, I am a bit of a sucker in the sense that I always play my highest hand no matter what the low is, for example I would rather play a 9/0 than a 5/4 (I am not sure if these are correct examples, but it is to give the general idea)
The side bet pays regardless of how you set the hand for the main bet. If you have 2-5-9-10 and set the hand as 7/9 instead of 5/Wong, the side bet will still pay you even money for the Wong.
February 25th, 2011 at 11:55:00 PM
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It may pay regardless of how you set it elsewhere but at Crown you must set it the way the table says for Lame Duck and higher. Ie you must set lame duck as 1-2 not 0-3. They're all the bet way to set them anyway so really it shouldn't be an issue.
Would the be any chance of someone developing a strategy for the Tie bet? And any idea what the house edge is in that bet?
Would the be any chance of someone developing a strategy for the Tie bet? And any idea what the house edge is in that bet?
December 2nd, 2014 at 2:20:03 PM
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saw this side bet today does anyone have a link to the odds or some quick math
300-1 on jee goon and teen pairs together
8-1 on jee goon
4-1 on any mixed pair
3-1 on matching pairs
300-1 on jee goon and teen pairs together
8-1 on jee goon
4-1 on any mixed pair
3-1 on matching pairs
The bet will not be paid- not now not ever
