harris
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August 21st, 2025 at 2:59:35 PM permalink
Hello everyone, today I thought I'd invent a new variety of Baccarat for high-limit rooms in casinos.

It's called Auspicious Baccarat, and it's a no-commission variant with almost the same rules as Baccarat but with better odds for both the Player and Banker.

If the Player wins with a 2 or lower, they're paid 3:2, giving them an advantage over regular Baccarat but not too much.
And because it's no commission, if the Banker wins with a 4 they're paid 1:2 (better for the Banker than commission).

The house edge is a little under 1% for both bets, but it's definitely not a game you can win by counting. I hope this will attract seasoned baccarat players.

Please let me know what you think, you can play a demo on my website :)
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August 21st, 2025 at 3:35:24 PM permalink
I haven't thought deeply on your game, but in general I don't like no commission Bacc. The paid 1:2 commissionless game I know is when Bank wins on 6, which has a house edge of 1.46% on the Bank, making it a worse bet HE wise than Player.

Typically, Bank wins on two card 4 a fair amount when Player starts with 3, but also when Player starts with 0, 1 or 2. Obviously Bank wins with 6 more often than with 4, so that is where the lower HE on your game comes in.

You are saying that the house edge is a little under 1% for both bets. Some casinos used to offer 4% commission Baccarat but that faded, so this means that casinos are reluctant to give up that HE on the game. Good luck.

I do like the name though…Auspicious!

As far as a game that cannot be beaten by counting, a combination of knowing every card that has been played and remains, and the ability to process what that means, is enough to overcome any card game, but your game is no more or less susceptible than any other form of Baccarat.
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August 21st, 2025 at 4:18:52 PM permalink
Here are the numbers I get:

For an 8-deck shoe:
Player HE is 15,206,710,112 / 2,789,284,751,955, or 0.545183%
Banker HE is 25,970,847,944 / 6,508,331,087,895, or 0.399040%

For a 6-deck shoe:
Player HE is 8,370,180,648 / 1,525,814,595,305, or 0.548571%
Banker HE is 13,271,418 / 3,353,438,671, or 0.395756%
harris
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August 21st, 2025 at 4:37:39 PM permalink
Thanks for the calculations

This house edge does seem a bit low (though lower house edges exist), but maybe it would be acceptable with $1,000 minimum bets
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August 21st, 2025 at 4:48:50 PM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

Here are the numbers I get:

For an 8-deck shoe:
Player HE is 15,206,710,112 / 2,789,284,751,955, or 0.545183%
Banker HE is 25,970,847,944 / 6,508,331,087,895, or 0.399040%

For a 6-deck shoe:
Player HE is 8,370,180,648 / 1,525,814,595,305, or 0.548571%
Banker HE is 13,271,418 / 3,353,438,671, or 0.395756%
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August 21st, 2025 at 7:20:31 PM permalink
Quote: harris

Thanks for the calculations

This house edge does seem a bit low (though lower house edges exist), but maybe it would be acceptable with $1,000 minimum bets
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$1000 minimum is almost exactly what I was thinking.
I can't see a reason to offer a discount at lesser limits.

Many of the commission-free variants offer an awful sidebet on the claw-back hands (in this case, the B-4 win). That seems to be curiously absent here. The trouble with such a bet on this variant may be the social connotation of the number 4 (which also meant we had no competition for the apartment that overlooked the graveyard, back when). In order to attract action, the payoff odds would have to be a particularly auspicious number.
May the cards fall in your favor.
harris
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August 21st, 2025 at 8:10:23 PM permalink
I’m going to add the Auspicious Dragon Fortune Bonus soon in which in payout is based on the Chinese lunar calendar 🙏

Joking, but in retrospect I shouldn’t have created a variant where the number 4 is meaningful due to East Asian customs regarding that number.

This game is insufficiently auspicious :(
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August 21st, 2025 at 8:11:52 PM permalink
That being said, there are so many non-commission baccarat games that could be imagined and created very quickly. If anyone has an idea I can program it (for free, but only because baccarat is super simple).
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August 22nd, 2025 at 2:13:06 AM permalink
Quote: harris

That being said, there are so many non-commission baccarat games that could be imagined and created very quickly. If anyone has an idea I can program it (for free, but only because baccarat is super simple).
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A straightforward way to do it might be the banker bet losing on a particular tie. You can probably find a tie or a set of ties that would make Player and Banker equal in house edge. Then you can have a sidebet for that tie or ties.
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