2-3-5 Stud Poker

2-3-5 Stud Poker was one of the new games by Light and Wonder presented at the 2022 Global Gaming Expo. I hear it is currently on field trial at the Plaza.

If forced to compare it to something, it would be Let it Ride. The player is paid based on a 2-, 3-, and 5-card poker, with two opportunities to raise or check as cards are revealed.

For my complete rules, analysis and strategy, please see my new page on 2-3-5 Stud Poker.

I welcome all comments.

The question for the poll is would you play 2-3-5 Stud Poker?

Your WOO analysis, as usual, evaluates the game as if it is one player heads-up versus the dealer.

But if there are three or four players at the table than the information from seeing other cards dealt to other players would enable you to make more optimal decisions about raising the 3-card and 5 card poker wagers. If there are 4 other players at the table, then that are 8 other cards that might affect your 3 Card Poker decision and 12 other cards that might affect your 5 card Poker decision.

So, are all the cards dealt face-up? Or, are the cards all dealt face down to the player, with each player peeking at cards 1&2, then subsequently peeking at card 3 so as to protect their cards from being seen by other players? Such face-down dealing seems like an unwieldy way for the players to make decisions -when receiving card #3 you would like to consider it in the context of the first two cards that you received. But you would not be able to pick up all three cards at the same time because of the jeopardy that you might secretly rearrange your cards so as to make a better outcome on the 2 Card Poker wager. So, I am guessing that the cards are dealt face up to players.

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Your WOO analysis, as usual, evaluates the game as if it is one player heads-up versus the dealer.
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That is true. I have yet to actually see the game, but I assume the player cards are dealt face down. Investing player collusion would make this analysis about ten times harder and probably benefit nobody. Players smart enough to collude would be doing other plays.

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I found a glitch in the posted strategy for the 3 Card Poker wager.

The WOO page currently says:

"The player should raise the 3 Card Poker bet with any of the following in the first two cards.

Any pair
Any two to a straight flush
Open-ended straight draw"

I believe that "Any two to a straight flush" should be changed to "Any two suited cards"

For two suited cards with no straight possibility, the return on the one unit raise wager:

6 outs to a Pair (payout=1); 6*1 = 6
11 outs to a flush (payout =3); 3*11 = 33
33 outs to a Lose (payout = -1) 33*(-1) = -33

6 + 33 + (-33) = +6

If you look at the pays it shows that all winning flushes were raised, thus I'm guessing it's a typo.

				RF	SF	Trips	Str	Flush	Pair	Zip
				50	20	10	5	3	1	-1
		Example	Perms										1.918 552%
Pair	unsuited	A A	78			2			48		1.36	2.72	212.16
Poss RF	suited	AK/AQ	8	1			3	10	6	30	1.42	2.84	22.72
Poss RF SF	suited	KQ	4	1	1		6	9	6	27	2.12	4.24	16.96
outside SF	suited	QJ to 32	40		2		6	9	6	27	1.52	3.04	121.60
inside SF	suited	KJ to A3 A2	48		1		3	10	6	30	0.82	1.64	78.72
no SF	suited		212					11	6	33	0.12	0.24	50.88
Inside str	unsuited	AK/AQ	24				4		6	40	-0.28	-0.28	-6.72
Outside str	unsuited	KQ	12				8		6	36	0.20	0.40	4.80
Outside str	unsuited	QJ to 32	120				8		6	36	0.20	0.40	48.00
Inside str	unsuited	KJ to A3 A2	144				4		6	40	-0.28	-0.28	-40.32
No str poss	unsuited		636						6	44	-0.76	-0.76	-483.36

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If you look at the pays it shows that all winning flushes were raised, thus I'm guessing it's a typo.

				RF	SF	Trips	Str	Flush	Pair	Zip
				50	20	10	5	3	1	-1
		Example	Perms										1.918 552%
Pair	unsuited	A A	78			2			48		1.36	2.72	212.16
Poss RF	suited	AK/AQ	8	1			3	10	6	30	1.42	2.84	22.72
Poss RF SF	suited	KQ	4	1	1		6	9	6	27	2.12	4.24	16.96
outside SF	suited	QJ to 32	40		2		6	9	6	27	1.52	3.04	121.60
inside SF	suited	KJ to A3 A2	48		1		3	10	6	30	0.82	1.64	78.72
no SF	suited		212					11	6	33	0.12	0.24	50.88
Inside str	unsuited	AK/AQ	24				4		6	40	-0.28	-0.28	-6.72
Outside str	unsuited	KQ	12				8		6	36	0.20	0.40	4.80
Outside str	unsuited	QJ to 32	120				8		6	36	0.20	0.40	48.00
Inside str	unsuited	KJ to A3 A2	144				4		6	40	-0.28	-0.28	-40.32
No str poss	unsuited		636						6	44	-0.76	-0.76	-483.36

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yes, I agree, no change to house edge results are needed, just a mis-statement of strategy.