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August 12th, 2022 at 6:45:06 PM permalink
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<Title of thread> UTH: Avg bet=4.15x Ante?

https://wizardofodds.com/games/ultimate-texas-hold-em/

"The average total amount bet by the end of the hand is 4.152252 times the ante bet. "

I got 3.75x

ante blind bet total
$10 10 40 60 (4x ante)
10 10 20 40 (2x ante)
10 10 10 30 (1x ante)
10 10 0 20 (Fold)

60+40+30+20 = 150
150/4 = 37.5
37.5/$10 = 3.75

How did you get 4.15x Ante as avg?
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August 12th, 2022 at 7:32:58 PM permalink
You are assuming you are equally likely to get a hand that has a 4x bet, a hand that has a 2x bet, a hand that has a 1x bet, and a hand that you fold.

You need to multiply the probability of being a dealt a hand that would have a 4x bet by 60, the probability of being dealt a hand that would have a 2x bet by 40, the probability of being dealt a 1x hand by 30, and the probability of being dealt a hand you would fold by 20, then add up those four numbers and divide by 10.
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August 13th, 2022 at 3:57:11 AM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

You are assuming you are equally likely to get a hand that has a 4x bet, a hand that has a 2x bet, a hand that has a 1x bet, and a hand that you fold.

You need to multiply the probability of being a dealt a hand that would have a 4x bet by 60, the probability of being dealt a hand that would have a 2x bet by 40, the probability of being dealt a 1x hand by 30, and the probability of being dealt a hand you would fold by 20, then add up those four numbers and divide by 10.
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ahh.. so with the wiz's strategy, you are max betting more often than average thus the higher avg bet #
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August 13th, 2022 at 1:38:07 PM permalink
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Quote: ThatDonGuy

You are assuming you are equally likely to get a hand that has a 4x bet, a hand that has a 2x bet, a hand that has a 1x bet, and a hand that you fold.

You need to multiply the probability of being a dealt a hand that would have a 4x bet by 60, the probability of being dealt a hand that would have a 2x bet by 40, the probability of being dealt a 1x hand by 30, and the probability of being dealt a hand you would fold by 20, then add up those four numbers and divide by 10.
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ahh.. so with the wiz's strategy, you are max betting more often than average thus the higher avg bet #
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There are 1326 possible 2-card deals.
Going by the Wizard's chart, there are 25 non-pair sets of ranks where you always make the 4x raise; each one has 16 possible deals (for example, for Ace-King, for each of the four possible suits for the Ace, there are four possible suits for the King), so that's 25 x 16 = 400 deals right there.
There are seven where you make the 4x raise if they are suited; each one has 4 possible deals (for example, for King-2, you raise if both are spades, or both are hearts, or both are clubs, or both are diamonds); that's another 7 x 4 = 28 deals.
Finally, for the 12 ranks where you raise with a pair, each one has 6 deals (Spade/Heart, Spade/Club, Spade/Diamond, Club/Heart, Club/Diamond, Heart/Diamond), for another 12 x 6 = 72 deals.
There are a total of 400 + 28 + 72 = 500 deals where you raise; this is 500/1326, or about 37.7%, of your hands.
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